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MMA (UFC, Strikeforce, Bellator, Invicta, etc.) Discussion Thread -- Version II

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Old 10-05-2012, 11:22 PM   #1
MMA (UFC, Strikeforce, Bellator, Invicta, etc.) Discussion Thread -- Version II

Since the original thread was shut down for some reason, likely due to its hundreds of pages, I suppose the time is to start a new MMA thread around here. First and foremost, not in a spamming manner, I recommend everyone to check out and sign up for the forums HERE. You'll love the site and the community for certain.

Secondly, as you could probably assume this thread is for discussions relating to anything in MMA and the MMA cards that come around almost every week.

Next week is UFC 153 - Silva/Bonnar with Anderson Silva headlining against Stephan Bonnar. Erick Silva vs. Jon Fitch and Demian Maia vs. Rick Story are also featured on the card.

Let the games begin!
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Old 10-06-2012, 01:40 AM   #2
Well, if we're pimping shit, my Twitter is below. Had you been a follower, you would have hit Nishikori (+250) and Wawrinka-Murray (-110) two days ago, or, for today, been paid 70-percent ROI on a Silva-Browne ITD and Neer-Edwards ITD parlay.

Oh, and I hit Edwards ITD at +1483. Yesterday, I hit Zhang at +1350. Last Sunday, I had the Vikings, Rams, and the Buccaneers-Redskins Over. (Rams and Vikings were underdogs.) On Monday, I had the Bears in all sorts of ways. (Bears were the underdog.) On Thursday, I had the Rams again and Rams second half—who were again at plus-money.

But yeah, MMA. UFC on FX 5 was a good card. Solid fights from bottom to top. Heard the full story on the Stephens fiasco. Drunk or not, the guy seems crazy, if the story is true.

And I had a real loud laugh after I caught a replay of the Axekick of Doom at Bellator 75. Probably the funniest thing I've seen this year.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:25 AM   #3
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Oh, and I hit Edwards ITD at +1483.

I was wondering what the line was on that. I never in a million years expected Edwards to win. That was a crazy upset.
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Old 10-06-2012, 03:44 PM   #4
Both fights ending in ball explosion makes me wonder if a third fight should even come about. Let those two be known as the guys who couldn't get through a fight without kicking each other in the nuts and let them both move on.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:12 PM   #5
why is anderson fighting bonnar? and go.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:24 PM   #6
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why is anderson fighting bonnar? and go.

Well, 2012 has had a ton of injuries. That's the biggest factor. Another factor is Anderson Silva refuses to fight Chris Weidman, who is a top contender at 185.

If you had been following the news, you would have known UFC 153, the card that houses Bonnar-Silva, has been a wreck due to injuries. Originally, the main event was Koch-Aldo—but Koch had to withdraw due to injury. Then the UFC put together a superfight between Jose Aldo and Frankie Edgar—which fell through due to an Aldo injury. Anderson Silva plays company man and steps up in a short-notice fight against, other company man, Stephan Bonnar, so the card has a marketable main event.
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:31 PM   #7
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I was wondering what the line was on that. I never in a million years expected Edwards to win. That was a crazy upset.

I eagerly anticipate the prop lines for Silva-Bonnar. Dependent on the line, I may put money on Bonnar ITD or Bonnar by TKO/KO. If I burn money, I burn money. Silva has yet to have his St-Pierre-Serra moment—and Sonnen has shown that Silva can be hit and hurt. However, Silva has a much better chin than St-Pierre and Bonnar does not have Serra's power. But, at, say, +1500, how could ya not toss some change at the line. Only way Bonnar wins is by TKO/KO and/or ITD. Silva has shown that he can be incredibly arrogant—and we have seen what arrogance does to fighters (e.g., Travis Browne, Melvin Guillard).
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Old 10-06-2012, 05:38 PM   #8
Do you bet online Chase? I'd love to put money on Bonnar. In my mind, out of all Silva's opponents, he's the first one that has a solid chance.
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Old 10-06-2012, 06:02 PM   #9
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Do you bet online Chase? I'd love to put money on Bonnar. In my mind, out of all Silva's opponents, he's the first one that has a solid chance.

I use a select many books. The most public book I use is 5Dimes. Not my main book—but I love their layout and lines. I also live in Las Vegas, so I never have any issue finding a place to play.

EDIT: And as a cautionary bit of friendly advice, for every me, who does very well in his chalkland adventures, there are thousands—if not tens of thousands—of people feeding the books and going broke. Last I read, under five-percent of everyone in chalkland is successful on the long-term.
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Old 10-06-2012, 08:01 PM   #10
Bonnar's line is probably high, but betting on Silva ITD as part of a parlay is safer.
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Old 10-06-2012, 10:06 PM   #11
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Bonnar's line is probably high, but betting on Silva ITD as part of a parlay is safer.

Depends on the number. Silva's money line has zero value. Hopefully, Silva ITD will be around -200, or a number that has value. However, oddsmakers know this, and will probably hold it hostage at around -500. That number can still be worthwhile dependent on other numbers in the card. I don't do my bets until fight day, so, even if Silva ITD had a start number of -200, I wouldn't play it until fight day.

And the only way I would play Bonnar ITD or Bonnar by TKO/KO is if it's in the +1000s. I think there's no value in the lines if below +1000. Bonnar doesn't have the power to make, say, a +500 ITD play a worthwhile investment.

Since we're talking lines. Right now, I like Pearson at +110 against Sotiropoulos, and lookout for Franklin ITD against Le. If it's good plus-money, it's a worthwhile play.
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Old 10-06-2012, 11:33 PM   #12
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I have no idea of the rules, but somehow feel this pimping out of other websites is probably frowned upon.

Batista looked awful in his fight tonight.Got the win but didn't expect that fat 300 pounder to hurt Batista like he did and make him fall back all the time.

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Both fights ending in ball explosion makes me wonder if a third fight should even come about. Let those two be known as the guys who couldn't get through a fight without kicking each other in the nuts and let them both move on.
I wanna see a 3rd fight just for the hell of it and in hopes of seeing a clean finish.Good job on remaking the forum topic,was starting to miss it.

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And the only way I would play Bonnar ITD or Bonnar by TKO/KO is if it's in the +1000s. I think there's no value in the lines if below +1000. Bonnar doesn't have the power to make, say, a +500 ITD play a worthwhile investment.
Surprised to hear this I am.Honestly you could raise the lines as high as you want and have Bonnar at +6000 and I'd still stay away from it.

Dennis Hallman is talkin about the family issues now saying that his wife has a drug problem and took his daughter away from him a day before the fight sending police over to come take her away from him and the judge gave her his car.

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Old 10-07-2012, 12:45 AM   #13
Bonnar can't beat Anderson, that's all I'll say about the fight right now. As far as "pimping" out another site, it isn't spamming I am just suggesting a great site that everyone in this thread would like.

P.S. The Silva/Bonnar card doesn't "look" great, but it has some decent fights on it. Peewee/Big Nog, Glover/Maldonado are solid off the top of my head, although Nog should be a heavy favorite against Peewee.
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Old 10-07-2012, 01:01 AM   #14
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Nog should be a heavy favorite against Peewee.
Just went and looked at the odds for that fight.How is Nog only a -260 fav?Just screams for single bets inside the distance and parlays.
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Old 10-07-2012, 03:01 AM   #15
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Surprised to hear this I am.Honestly you could raise the lines as high as you want and have Bonnar at +6000 and I'd still stay away from it.
Dropping $10 to win $600 on the chance the stars align just right...crazy yet intriguing.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:32 AM   #16
Meant no offense, Krakrabbit. Just took the opportunity to also promote myself.

Magiblaze, I understand. However, it's as Ced said. Toss a hundred to make a thousand is a worthwhile venture. As I said, if I burn money, I burn money. Gotta have money to make money, and sometimes I will burn money for entertainment. Only on occasion, though. Money management is a huge part of success in chalkland.

On a similar note, NC State (+550) cashes, Reds (+112) cash, and my first Sunday play, Nishikori (+150) cashes. The other two I put out have begun.
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Old 10-07-2012, 07:38 AM   #17
Its all good to post about your plays, since I do the same! As far as "burning" money on Bonnar, that is a burn IMHO. Tell me...in the minds of you gentleman, how do you see Stephan Bonnar beating Anderson Silva? In what way?
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Old 10-07-2012, 10:31 AM   #18
Anderson allowing Bonnar to hit him flush on the button in an act of ultimate hubris. Best case scenario.
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Old 10-07-2012, 11:10 AM   #19
Also, if Anderson disrespects Bonnar's ability as much as he did Maia, there's always a chance Bonnar could eek out a decision. Look - I don't think that any one that posts in this thread actually would pick Bonnar over Silva if our lives depended on it but some of us (myself included) would certainly be willing to take a risk in making some money on Bonnar if the odds are attractive enough.
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Old 10-07-2012, 04:19 PM   #20
A classic rule of betting on fights is NOT taking "value" plays just because the odds are wide. The odds are wide for a reason, that reason being that an underdog of Bonnar's value has virtually no shot to win, all things considered. "Value" is at its best when you're seeing a weak chinned, talented guy against a hard hitting, less skilled guy but otherwise...
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