Originally Posted by wEEman33 And all of the DLC is superficial costumes so none of it matters. The core game is all you need. At $7 it's a steal. Easily the best 3D fighter on the system.

some people like messing with character customization in a fighting game a shocking concept i know and its still the fact that the disc version of virtua 5 has the option yet to get it i need to shell out of a ton of money on this game basically they are like sure we will offer this for whats the nonsale price? 1200 points? but if you want extra costumes and character customizing you need to fork over another 4000 points!!! its misleading and shady.

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki Your math is missing logic, as spending 10,000 points on VF5S DLC means you somehow bought all of the individual costume packs along with the bundles so that you'd end up buying everything twice. I'd guess that most rational people would first look at what's offered before deciding what to buy.

well i didnt look at the details just added it up.

Well my Gold account expired yesterday so I guess that makes the decisions about getting Gold exclusive deals easy.
Until an outstanding renewal deal appears on my dash that is. Your move Micro$oft...

Originally Posted by kayne2000 some people like messing with character customization in a fighting game a shocking concept i know and its still the fact that the disc version of virtua 5 has the option yet to get it i need to shell out of a ton of money on this game basically they are like sure we will offer this for whats the nonsale price? 1200 points? but if you want extra costumes and character customizing you need to fork over another 4000 points!!! its misleading and shady. well i didnt look at the details just added it up.

Then you might want to refrain from making suggestions for games you don't know enough about. Your math is bad if you're adding 1200 (costume bundle 1), 1200 (costume bundle 2), and 600 for the game (or even 1200 without the sale) to get over 4000 points. If you want everything, the bundles are the best options, and if you only care about one or two characters, then the individual packs are the best options. If you think it's too expensive, don't buy it and wait for a sale eventually. Nobody with an ounce of common sense would spend nearly as much as you're suggesting, so I don't see what's shady about it.

Originally Posted by kayne2000 some people like messing with character customization in a fighting game a shocking concept i know and its still the fact that the disc version of virtua 5 has the option yet to get it i need to shell out of a ton of money on this game basically they are like sure we will offer this for whats the nonsale price? 1200 points? but if you want extra costumes and character customizing you need to fork over another 4000 points!!! its misleading and shady.

We had this discussion a few pages back, and the general consensus is that optional cosmetic DLC doesn't hurt the game. VF5 Final Showdown could easily have been sold for $60 (and it would've done pretty well in Japan), but instead SEGA made it a cheap downloadable game with the costumes sold separately. If you want to mess with the costumes so much, buy the game and some costumes. Your choosing not to buy it proves that you don't want to even play the game, let alone customize your characters.

In my opinion this is how DLC should be handled. Have the core game be cheaper, have packs of DLC for those that want everything, and individual DLC for those that want one or a little. I think more companies should take SEGA's lead on this. Personally, I never really customize my characters in a fighter, so for me now to pay for all the cosmetic extras that would be in a retail release, it's great to buy a deeply discounted copy and if I want to get those extras later U can.

Originally Posted by Blaster man Anyone know if Faery legends of Avalon is any good?

After playing through the demo 2 separate times, I still can't spend 600 on it. I may bite if it ever ends up on the 200-400msp range.

Originally Posted by Althax Looking ahead to tuesday, what toy soldiers and cold war dlcs are worth purchasing? I dont have enough points for them all and I still need to buy the original toy soldier.

They're all fairly similar, in the they include 3 missions and a couple extra negligible goodies. Of the 3 I've played, I'd rank them:

Kaiser Battle
Evil Empire
Napalm.

I'm definitely buying Invasion on Tuesday.

I have all Virtua Fighter 5 FS, Street Fighter 3, and Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo HD Remix.

While I do enjoy playing SF3 online, FS is the best value by far of all 3. It's a modern day full RETAIL LEVEL game while the rest are what you expect from smaller digital games. SF3 you have to pay for extra COLORS!@#! At least the DLC in FS are clothing accessories and other customization. It really sucks to be a Capcom fan :(

I hope other modern day unreleased games follow Sega's path with FS. A cheap digital download that has the core game with optional nongame DLC for hardcore fans.

Originally Posted by eastx We had this discussion a few pages back, and the general consensus is that optional cosmetic DLC doesn't hurt the game. VF5 Final Showdown could easily have been sold for $60 (and it would've done pretty well in Japan), but instead SEGA made it a cheap downloadable game with the costumes sold separately. If you want to mess with the costumes so much, buy the game and some costumes. Your choosing not to buy it proves that you don't want to even play the game, let alone customize your characters.

im not saying its a bad game its probably fun enough. but using this logic i dont really see how those costumes value at so much more than the actual game is(even when its not one sale)....also i really dont use Japan as a benchmark for what sells in other countries in this case lets say America because quite frankly Japan sells alot of games that stand 0 chance in America most famously being their obsession with dating sims and well xbox doesnt sell over there but in america it does pretty damn good.

you are right the DLC doesnt directly hurt the game but if one has VF5 the disc copy and it had customizing one tends to hope features stay in the next version....also if this was a Disc game it could be 10 dollars by now.....though i am curios why this never came out as a disc game??

my choosing not to buy it is i dont want to like it then want to customize characters and have to drop a few thousand points if i want the full experience or just pick and choose individually....though the backlog could be a factor too its one of these two reasons lol

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki Then you might want to refrain from making suggestions for games you don't know enough about. Your math is bad if you're adding 1200 (costume bundle 1), 1200 (costume bundle 2), and 600 for the game (or even 1200 without the sale) to get over 4000 points. If you want everything, the bundles are the best options, and if you only care about one or two characters, then the individual packs are the best options. If you think it's too expensive, don't buy it and wait for a sale eventually. Nobody with an ounce of common sense would spend nearly as much as you're suggesting, so I don't see what's shady about it.

theres more than two 1200 point pack bundles as i recall....its sort of the fact there is that much DLC that is somewhat annoying i dont mind DLC and i dont hate it but it can sometimes in cases like this get absurd

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Walking Dead ep. 4 is out on Wednesday!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPmb0...eature=related

Originally Posted by locolukah Walking Dead ep. 4 is out on Wednesday!!

everyone rejoice the best game ever is releasing another part hell yeah

Originally Posted by killer9 everyone rejoice the best game ever is releasing another part hell yeah

He didn't say Hell Yeah, he said Walking Dead.

hardy har har :p

lol

After watching Indie Game The Movie on Netflix I kinda want a sale on Super Meat Boy now.

Looks like we have a few more fighters coming courtesy of Sega.

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Originally Posted by bardockkun After watching Indie Game The Movie on Netflix I kinda want a sale on Super Meat Boy now.

although your controller is praying for the complete opposite. i've never played a game that made me so ing mad before. towards the middle of the game the difficulty becomes ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Dthib87 although your controller is praying for the complete opposite

I've got 7, not counting arcade sticks or fight pads. I Got enough to sacrifice to the gaming Gods.

Originally Posted by bardockkun After watching Indie Game The Movie on Netflix I kinda want a sale on Super Meat Boy now.

well worth full price IMHO. One of the absolute top XBLA games period.

Releasing Sonic the fighters has to be some kind of joke. Maybe a lost bet?