Republicans should be happy since Obama and Romney are both right-wing candidates. Sure Obama has some "left-leaning" social policies (DOMA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, pro-choice etc.), but they're both pawns of big-business and the military-industrial complex.

All of you Romney fans who think he gives a lick about the deficit are hilarious. Republicans love deficits when they're in office.

Originally Posted by cancerman1120 My issue was less about who wrote the story and more about thinking those polls actually mean anything.

You ask 800-1,000 people what they think and then you report the results. The ultimate, most costly poll will be in November, with a sample size of around 126 million.

Originally Posted by willardhaven Republicans should be happy since Obama and Romney are both right-wing candidates. Sure Obama has some "left-leaning" social policies (DOMA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, pro-choice etc.), but they're both pawns of big-business and the military-industrial complex. All of you Romney fans who think he gives a lick about the deficit are hilarious. Republicans love deficits when they're in office.

They don't love them, they just don't give a shit about them.

Originally Posted by willardhaven Republicans should be happy since Obama and Romney are both right-wing candidates. Sure Obama has some "left-leaning" social policies (DOMA, Don't Ask Don't Tell, pro-choice etc.), but they're both pawns of big-business and the military-industrial complex. All of you Romney fans who think he gives a lick about the deficit are hilarious. Republicans love deficits when they're in office.

I'm not sure I could have said it better myself.

If I can find the source I'll post it, but entitlement spending has gone up an average of 8% faster since LBJ (I think?) under Republican libertarian anarcho-capitalist presidencies than it has under Democratic socialist communist presidencies. Even by their own standards, the Republican party is a complete and utter failure.

I would be a lot more interested in seeing entitlement spending under Democratic vs Republican congresses since they're the branch of government who actually passes legislation. I would also like to know how much of that was due to cost increases of previously existing programs.

If Romney does win I'm keeping track of all the bullshit for the next 4 years, and anyone I know who voted for him as the "lesser of two evils" (their own words) is getting a damned mouthful.

Originally Posted by Clak If Romney does win I'm keeping track of all the bullshit for the next 4 years, and anyone I know who voted for him as the "lesser of two evils" (their own words) is getting a damned mouthful.

Why don't you track what Obama has been doing for these four years and how much everything improved, since apparently you think we are in the best place as a country ever.

hey i mostly stream crap online to watch or watch dvds or other on demand comcast crap but this is the first time i seen this in a ad but i remember watching ads in 04 and 08 and dont remember this


it was an obama ad telling how bad mitt is and how he invested in a company that hired only people in china or sometime like that .... was not really paying attention

but at the end of the ad it in

Something like in BIG LETTERS

Want to give obama MONEY TEXT @#@)*#@$## to #$)*$)#*#$# and you will give him 10 bucks



thought he was not hurting for money but begging people in ads lol whatever

That attack ad is particularly humorous since much of Obama's investments are in a mutual fund whose biggest holdings are Apple, GE, and IBM. But you're only a lying hypocrite if you have an R next to your name I guess.

Shit, if you donated to Obama you get hit with 2-3 emails asking for $5 every day. They happened soon as his push for healthcare started and haven't let up since.

Today, Obama decided to honor Cesar Chavez. Hispanics will now vote for him for sure.

Originally Posted by dafoomie That attack ad is particularly humorous since much of Obama's investments are in a mutual fund whose biggest holdings are Apple, GE, and IBM. But you're only a lying hypocrite if you have an R next to your name I guess.

Having money in a mutual fund and directly investing in a company that corporations outsource to are different things. They're so different that only a political luddite would make that comparison.

Originally Posted by eldergamer Shit, if you donated to Obama you get hit with 2-3 emails asking for $5 every day. They happened soon as his push for healthcare started and haven't let up since.

Do you think that Republican affiliated groups are any different? Cause they're not. Assuming you're talking about yourself and you donated to Obama's campaign, your email address has probably already been sold to other Democratic affiliated groups as well. This is SOP when you make a donation to any political group.

Today, Obama decided to honor Cesar Chavez. Hispanics will now vote for him for sure.

I'm also sure that it being Hispanic Heritage Month doesn't have anything to do with it either.

Originally Posted by dohdough Having money in a mutual fund and directly investing in a company that corporations outsource to are different things. They're so different that only a political luddite would make that comparison.

So different that he wouldn't make money off it?

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew...racist-insults

Originally Posted by Knoell So different that he wouldn't make money off it?

Thanks for proving my point and I'll let nasum handle this one.

Originally Posted by UncleBob http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew...racist-insults

"Look! They do it too!"

Originally Posted by dohdough Thanks for proving my point and I'll let nasum handle this one. "Look! They do it too!"

It was a simple question...

Also, you guys are the kings of "look! they do it too!". I can't think of a discussion where you haven't said that.....

Originally Posted by Knoell It was a simple question...

If it was so simple, then you'd ing understand that directly being involved and instrumental in investing in ONE SPECIFIC COMPANY is different than picking a specific mutual fund, if you even had that option, that has money invested in a diverse group of companies.

Also, you guys are the kings of "look! they do it too!". I can't think of a discussion where you haven't said that.....

You are dumb as a ing rock. The whole point op-ed was about liberals "doing it too." All you have isn't even "gotcha" moment and no broader point. I can only assume that you'd burst into flames if you ever came close to context.

in a way im shocked people don't demand Receipt after they vote so they can have proof who they voted for

you vote you hit the cast button and then a little paper pops out you can take home... then again so many people are too lazy to take them at the gas station they probally be laying all over the floor at the voting place

I want a receipt, then I can return my vote later. ~slidecage

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Originally Posted by slidecage in a way im shocked people don't demand Receipt after they vote so they can have proof who they voted for you vote you hit the cast button and then a little paper pops out you can take home... then again so many people are too lazy to take them at the gas station they probally be laying all over the floor at the voting place

The problem is that out of the thousands voting in your area, you wouldn't know if yours was missing.

Originally Posted by dohdough Having money in a mutual fund and directly investing in a company that corporations outsource to are different things. They're so different that only a political luddite would make that comparison.

The point is that to criticize someone for investing in a company who manufactures products in China is an absurdity given how dominant that practice is. Obama bought GM with taxpayer dollars, has he demanded that they bring manufacturing back to the US? Only 20% of their vehicles are made here. 2/3rds of its jobs are overseas. What is he doing about it as President?

Somebody must be a little snippy today after seeing the latest polls.