It's been a while but I think you wind up fighting different mobs with more powerful abilities once you hit a certain level. Instead of swarms of Stunted Scamps and Clannfear Runts, you're fighting hordes of Atronachs and Daedroth.

Anyone who criticizes either Borderlands as a boring game is completely wrong, and if you didn't enjoy it, you must have been playing it wrong.

Just wanted to throw out that non-substantive comment.

I grew up on RPGs, but when I was introduced to Steam, I started playing too many MP FPSs, and have forgotten what I looked for in them. Probably escapism and immersion, which I think I found plenty of in Morrowind, but was interrupted by a hard drive crash. Baldur's Gate 2 has been atop my backlog since I preordered the Collector's Edition, and it sits there because of my overwhelming dread that it can now never possibly fulfill my overinflated expectations of what I've heard people call one of the best cRPGs ever.

I'm trying to play Skyrim as I would as a person experiencing these things not as a game. So while the gamer in me wants to run off exploring so I know I'm not missing anything just over that hill and the next one, I'm trying to make decisions that make more sense given the game's world and events.

Originally Posted by Syntax Error It's been a while but I think you wind up fighting different mobs with more powerful abilities once you hit a certain level. Instead of swarms of Stunted Scamps and Clannfear Runts, you're fighting hordes of Atronachs and Daedroth.

I found the game to be a cake walk until late 20s and then by 30 or maybe a little higher it became a cake walk again.

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Originally Posted by MC Kage How does that work? I honestly didn't know what the hell I was doing most of the time in Oblivion.

On Oblivion all enemies level up with you, so when you open the gates the Daedra you encounter will depend on your level. If you go for the side quests first you'll be at quite a high level, making the closing of the gates pretty hard (I learned it the hard way, I only took on the main quest after doing everything else interesting there was to do - i.e. I opened my first gate after 125 hours of gameplay). The problem is it isn't "fun" difficulty, but "cheap" imo.

Anyway, if you're thinking on playing, start with the main quest and then work on the side quest (even many of the side quests provide some pretty cool items, they're really not necessary if you do the main quest while your level is low)

Basically that's the main reason that makes me prefer Morrowind over Oblivion, on Morrowind the NPC levels vary only by 5 or so from a base level, so if you're level one and you stumble on a cave with a level 20 bandit, he's going to murder you easily, but if you come back at level 40 you're going to wipe the floor with him. The whole auto-scaling thing makes the game feel un-rewarding (i.e. that Crystal mail that you saved so much to purchase will be on every bandit in a couple of levels)

ok, that went a little bit longer that expected!

TLDR: Start with the main quest, then go for the side quests

Originally Posted by erequena Basically that's the main reason that makes me prefer Morrowind over Oblivion, on Morrowind the NPC levels vary only by 5 or so from a base level, so if you're level one and you stumble on a cave with a level 20 bandit, he's going to murder you easily, but if you come back at level 40 you're going to wipe the floor with him. The whole auto-scaling thing makes the game feel un-rewarding (i.e. that Crystal mail that you saved so much to purchase will be on every bandit in a couple of levels)

I truly wish they wouldn't have brought auto-scaling enemies into the elder scrolls' games as well. I remember using the scrolls of insane jumping to launch myself over ghost gate at level one. It was great, but also suicide. And in case nobody knew this already... save the game whilst in air after using one of the scrolls and when you reload the game via your save your velocity becomes 0 and you will just fall straight down. If you are too high when you save the first time you might have to save again to land without taking fall damage. Best way to travel... ever.

Although Skyrim is a tad better than Oblivion. I mean messing with one of the giants at level one will most likely result in death. In Oblivion I wouldn't be surprised if you could essentially breeze through the game at level 1.

Originally Posted by MC Kage Linear, simple, fun. People dabble in Spec Ops too but its not a selling point really, I'm sure most people would tell you they don't get CoD for SP is all lol.

Oh, I agree. Just wanted to let you know I am one of the oddballs, lol. I'll always remember (the first) MW as one of my favorite gaming experiences though - mainly for the multiplayer. And much like you said, it was the only game I bought new and was playing.


It was actually the last (aside from Crysis last year) keyboard/mouse FPS I've played. After playing it a ton I got too much of a social life my last couple years of high school, and didn't pick up a gaming-capable PC until about a year and a half ago. Since then, I've been too busy collecting Steam games to actually play any, lol.

The only reason I even got back into gaming was because my mother-in-law bought me a PS3 for Christmas in 2010. Weird thing is, I was much better in MW's multiplayer than I ever was in MW2's. I'm an average-above average player on console, but was usually one of the top players on MW at the time (don't remember my nick though...) Now I'm horrible with kb/m and would get blown away, lol.

Originally Posted by pROvIs Interesting. Groupees already does ePub bundles.

ePubes

and also in memory of Motoki


and I know posting deals is frowned upon but Nuuvem has Battlefield 2 Complete Collection for about $5.90.

And now, here's a dancing kitty.

Originally Posted by Jokerkun890 Oh, I agree. Just wanted to let you know I am one of the oddballs, lol. I'll always remember (the first) MW as one of my favorite gaming experiences though - mainly for the multiplayer. And much like you said, it was the only game I bought new and was playing. It was actually the last (aside from Crysis last year) keyboard/mouse FPS I've played. After playing it a ton I got too much of a social life my last couple years of high school, and didn't pick up a gaming-capable PC until about a year and a half ago. Since then, I've been too busy collecting Steam games to actually play any, lol. The only reason I even got back into gaming was because my mother-in-law bought me a PS3 for Christmas in 2010. Weird thing is, I was much better in MW's multiplayer than I ever was in MW2's. I'm an average-above average player on console, but was usually one of the top players on MW at the time (don't remember my nick though...) Now I'm horrible with kb/m and would get blown away, lol.

Personally, I think MP has been ruining FPS. A lot of them nowadays seem focused on MP and just some quick and thoughtless SP campaign. I guess I still remember stuff like the original COD games and Medal of Honor games where I thought the SP was stellar. I rarely play MP. Just not very good and don't really care about stats or stuff like that. I do like co-op but that isn't a focus of these games either.

Originally Posted by CheapLikeAFox Personally, I think MP has been ruining FPS. A lot of them nowadays seem focused on MP and just some quick and thoughtless SP campaign. I guess I still remember stuff like the original COD games and Medal of Honor games where I thought the SP was stellar. I rarely play MP. Just not very good and don't really care about stats or stuff like that. I do like co-op but that isn't a focus of these games either.

I think that only holds true for the modern military shooter.

I'd argue that pretty much any shooter that drifts outside of that framework still puts most effort into single-player.

Originally Posted by CheapLikeAFox Personally, I think MP has been ruining FPS. A lot of them nowadays seem focused on MP and just some quick and thoughtless SP campaign. I guess I still remember stuff like the original COD games and Medal of Honor games where I thought the SP was stellar. I rarely play MP. Just not very good and don't really care about stats or stuff like that. I do like co-op but that isn't a focus of these games either.

That irks me too. I'm not a fan of co-op though, mainly because I don't know many people to play with.

By the by, the new class (Mechromancer) is live in BL2 already. A week ahead of schedule... I guess Gearbox isn't on Valve time yet.

Originally Posted by dfg By the by, the new class (Mechromancer) is live in BL2 already. A week ahead of schedule... I guess Gearbox isn't on Valve time yet.

I've got the class to level 12, and I am really enjoying it. You can do some really cool and really different builds with this class.

Originally Posted by Jokerkun890 Oh, I agree. Just wanted to let you know I am one of the oddballs, lol. I'll always remember (the first) MW as one of my favorite gaming experiences though - mainly for the multiplayer. And much like you said, it was the only game I bought new and was playing. It was actually the last (aside from Crysis last year) keyboard/mouse FPS I've played. After playing it a ton I got too much of a social life my last couple years of high school, and didn't pick up a gaming-capable PC until about a year and a half ago. Since then, I've been too busy collecting Steam games to actually play any, lol. The only reason I even got back into gaming was because my mother-in-law bought me a PS3 for Christmas in 2010. Weird thing is, I was much better in MW's multiplayer than I ever was in MW2's. I'm an average-above average player on console, but was usually one of the top players on MW at the time (don't remember my nick though...) Now I'm horrible with kb/m and would get blown away, lol.

Word. & damn that's almost exactly like me bruh lol. I had a 360 for a while but it broke 4x, so I stopped gaming for about 2 years. I had to upgrade my laptop for school and I got a decent high-end one pretty much meant for gaming but not my intended purposes. I don't plan on getting a console again and I've been using my roommates PS3 for a year but honestly its just not as good as an Xbox. Wanted my own games so was like why not try PC, cheap and I can run games now. I'm decent at CoD MP, not good on PC either but hell I'm using a 360 controller still haha. Easier on consoles by far but I'm about the same when using a controller since I still am. MW2/3 is BS anyways, I'm better on BO.

erequena - interesting on Morrowind since I never played it. I spent a fair amount of time tho on Oblivion doing like you said, but primarily just screwing around doing side missions lol. The main quest was just...eh.

Originally Posted by dfg By the by, the new class (Mechromancer) is live in BL2 already. A week ahead of schedule... I guess Gearbox isn't on Valve time yet.

Ok so that explains the half a gig update I got in BL2 yesterday. Cool to hear.

Walking Dead ep 4 is out on Steam!

Originally Posted by imac2much Walking Dead ep 4 is out on Steam!

YES! Downloading now, can't wait to play Episode 4!

Originally Posted by imac2much Walking Dead ep 4 is out on Steam!

Though after Ep.3 I need to prepare myself!

Got an email saying that all of the Painkiller games were on sale in the Indie Gala store. 50% off but...

I hate the idea of the "Gala Store" and this is why I never buy anything from there: obviously, Indie Gala has keys for these games which means they'll most likely end up in one of their bundles.

Anyway, not a (terrible) price for those wanting to play the game now so I thought I'd share. Otherwise, wait til it's in an Indie Gala bundle

http://store.indiegala.com/index.php/

Originally Posted by jshackles Got an email saying that all of the Painkiller games were on sale in the Indie Gala store. 50% off but... I hate the idea of the "Gala Store" and this is why I never buy anything from there: obviously, Indie Gala has keys for these games which means they'll most likely end up in one of their bundles. Anyway, not a (terrible) price for those wanting to play the game now so I thought I'd share. Otherwise, wait til it's in an Indie Gala bundle http://store.indiegala.com/index.php/

I think they said and I could be wrong on this, that games in the gala store that haven't been in a bundle, won't be in one. Now they change their minds on things quite a bit so take that for what it's worth.