Originally Posted by AgentSquishy Just wanting y'alls opinions on this...do you think Walmart will still have preorders for the Wii U by 2 PM on Sunday?

Depends. Is your Wal-Mart in a city with a large population? Is it by a highway or farther into the suburbs?

Originally Posted by kevgees I've called every Walmart in my area and all of them said they wont be taking Wii U Deluxe preorders on the 14th. Are you guys sure you have the correct info?

yeah I think it's only for the regular edition. They figure that way more mom's and dads will get them for there kids and the whole Walmart family agenda will be served. most hardcores don't want the regular and most flippers can't make nearly as much on it. I think thats how the lay away pre order deal is going to work.

Originally Posted by tightclaws yeah I think it's only for the regular edition. They figure that way more mom's and dads will get them for there kids and the whole Walmart family agenda will be served. most hardcores don't want the regular and most flippers can't make nearly as much on it. I think thats how the lay away pre order deal is going to work.

I imagine that Walmart would pre-order deluxe models if they could. I assume they are sold out entirely, and basic is all thats left to go around.

Originally Posted by tightclaws yeah I think it's only for the regular edition. They figure that way more mom's and dads will get them for there kids and the whole Walmart family agenda will be served. most hardcores don't want the regular and most flippers can't make nearly as much on it. I think thats how the lay away pre order deal is going to work.

The memo posted specifically mentions the deluxe (5 times), and even lists the specific barcode for the deluxe. If anything, then it's only for the deluxe.

Originally Posted by Drclaw411 I imagine that Walmart would pre-order deluxe models if they could. I assume they are sold out entirely, and basic is all thats left to go around.

They never took any (in-store) preorders to begin with. How could they be sold out?

Originally Posted by kevgees I've called every Walmart in my area and all of them said they wont be taking Wii U Deluxe preorders on the 14th. Are you guys sure you have the correct info?

I'm gonna have to go with:

Originally Posted by Nintendonly Rule of thumb: Walmart employees don't know shit.

The memo specifically mentions preorder instructions for the deluxe model of the Wii U.

I was at the gamecube launch and the wii launch. If Bestbuy lives up to their part of the bargain, this will be the easiest console I have ever had to get.

The Gamecube launch I ended up lucky, I walked in on launch day not even knowing what the gamecube was, we went to TRU to return something and I ended up walking out with my christmas gift. The Wii launch was much rougher, had to campout. The Wii U launch might be the easiest, litteraly preordered from my home. Dont get much easier than that.

Originally Posted by Ag_SurfR are you an idiot, or did you just start following video games during the past week? what indication other than your obviously addled brain do you have that leads you to believe that microsoft will be launching its next console by next year? they've made zero announcements yet, no one has seen or heard anything about it, and the soonest you'd see a reveal would be next summer, giving everyone only a few months to hear about it. if they were to announce their new console at next e3, the soonest it'd be released would probably be 2014.

I choose door number one, Monty.

Microsoft is gearing up facilities to start producing some components of NextBox720. There are already problems coming up and if they don't start producing the components soon, they won't have as many consoles as they would like to have and launch in September 2013. Microsoft wants to create a HUGE supply of consoles to meet the initial holiday demand. If they cannot start getting components made soon enough, they would be forced to launch in the typical November with the usual limited supply of consoles.

Microsoft unveiled the Xbox 360 for the very first time just 6 months before the console launch.

The official unveiling of the Xbox 360 occurred on May 12 2005 on MTV and was hosted by actor Elijah Wood.

Originally Posted by ProppaT The Wii U is going to be interesting in this respect. I think we're going to see a lot of developers struggling with optimizing games for the Wii U because of the tablet and having to split the horsepower between two screens. The real limiting factor for the Wii U is going to be the CPU, imo. They're putting a fairly modern GPU in it, which will help it keep up with the 720/PS4 graphically, but I have a feeling the CPU is going to cripple it a bit in the long run. Something tells me it's not going to be able to keep up with the AI and physics that we'll see in 720/PS4 games. Honestly, I hope that most developers stick to running games natively in 720p and try to hit 60fps rather than trying to force 1080p on the system. It's just not going to have enough power to run games at a playable frame rate at that resolution, especially when they start trying to enable environmental effects. At very least, I hope that this new generation of consoles offers the option to play the game natively at 720p or 1080p, instead of running everything at 1080p and letting our TVs downscale. I'll take 720p at a locked 60fps over 1080p running at whatever anyday. No blur vs resolution...I'll take no blur.

You make some very good points. It's not just about the HD graphics, but also the AI, physics, and good solid frame rates. I believe the Wii U having to split the processing power between the TV monitor and the tablet is going to create complexities for developers.

Originally Posted by ProppaT The Wii U is going to be interesting in this respect. I think we're going to see a lot of developers struggling with optimizing games for the Wii U because of the tablet and having to split the horsepower between two screens. The real limiting factor for the Wii U is going to be the CPU, imo. They're putting a fairly modern GPU in it, which will help it keep up with the 720/PS4 graphically, but I have a feeling the CPU is going to cripple it a bit in the long run. Something tells me it's not going to be able to keep up with the AI and physics that we'll see in 720/PS4 games. Honestly, I hope that most developers stick to running games natively in 720p and try to hit 60fps rather than trying to force 1080p on the system. It's just not going to have enough power to run games at a playable frame rate at that resolution, especially when they start trying to enable environmental effects. At very least, I hope that this new generation of consoles offers the option to play the game natively at 720p or 1080p, instead of running everything at 1080p and letting our TVs downscale. I'll take 720p at a locked 60fps over 1080p running at whatever anyday. No blur vs resolution...I'll take no blur.

But why is 2d mario in 720p?!?! They cant do that?

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Originally Posted by grumpier But why is 2d mario in 720p?!?! They cant do that?

Because there up are to 4 players on screen at once, multiple enemies, and the Wii U tablet screen is being used. Hopefully the game runs at 60fps, but if it's 720p and 30fps, then that is on the low side.

Originally Posted by gordojones88 Because there up are to 4 players on screen at once, multiple enemies, and the Wii U tablet screen is being used. Hopefully the game runs at 60fps, but if it's 720p and 30fps, then that is on the low side.

Digital Foundry is saying it runs at 60 FPS.

Nintendo revealed the guts of the Wii U today.

IwataAsks.nintendo.com


Digital Foundry explains what it means.

eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-what-is-inside-the-wii-u

For those working at Walmart, if you pre order the Wii U but cancel it, do you get the $5 layaway fee returned to you or do you eat the cost? I'm looking at Walmart being my safety net, since I have about $40 credit with BB.

People really need to bring down their expectations of how powerful Sony and Microsoft's next systems will be. Microsoft's hellbent on forcing Kinect onto everything and Sony's already said they can't afford another PS3. They'll be stronger but it's going to be more like PS2/GC/Xbox era more than likely.

It seems everybody here is getting the Deluxe+Mario+ZombiU+pro controller.

Makes me wonder if those two games and the controller will be a bit tough to find at launch as well.

Controller maybe. The games I doubt it since its not hard to produce them.

Originally Posted by kitsunisan For those working at Walmart, if you pre order the Wii U but cancel it, do you get the $5 layaway fee returned to you or do you eat the cost? I'm looking at Walmart being my safety net, since I have about $40 credit with BB.

If you're in Maryland, there's no fee. If you're in Ohio, you get the fee back. Otherwise, if you cancel, you get your down payment (and any other payments back), but you don't get the fee back.

BTW, it looks like it's a $15 fee. Last year, it was a $5 fee with $10 cancellation on top of that, but everything this year (other than the main layaway landing page on their website) says it's a $15 fee (with no additional cancellation fee).

I work at Walmart and am wondering if I can use my emp 10% discount on the Wii U preorder/layaway...

Originally Posted by Eggman People really need to bring down their expectations of how powerful Sony and Microsoft's next systems will be.

Um, I haven't seen anybody post about how powerful they expect the real next-gen systems will be. I have seen lots discussed about how powerful they expect the Wii U will be compared to the PS360.

Originally Posted by greenwolfe7 Called my local walmarts all layaway desk are open 9am-9pm for me. Debating how early to get there. I don't think alot of people will know about this but at the same time have a basic pre-ordered for in store pick up at my local BB. I want a deluxe though.... im debating about getting there at 6ish... not too early not to late... I don't wanna cause a line but I don't wanna be late... Anybody think ill be safe?

Thanks for the heads up. I'm going there to pre order two Deluxe Models. CAG is the best!