Originally Posted by Syntax Error I just started Darksiders II. Am I correct in thinking I should just play it with a controller? I'm already annoyed that I can't just click on something like "Back" to go back but actually have to hit the ESC key.

If you have a controller you should use it. I have no idea how some games can be played without one. Then again I'm coming from many many years of console gaming to PC gaming so it feels natural to me. I even play FPS games with a controller.

I'm the opposite in that I'm so used to KB+M that I resist using a controller even when I should. But I think this is an occasion where I definitely should.

My final opinion on XCOM and Dishonored, if anyone is interested.

Dishonored isn't great. It's workmanlike. It delivers a lot of what it promises but what it delivers just doesn't reach the quality of the greats of the genre. (And what genre it is is almost as much a question in and of itself, depending on how you divide the line between Thief and Deus Ex.) A lot of people earned their paychecks and delivered a pretty good game but this is not going to go in the history books, at least not any I'd write.

XCOM, however, is great. Looking at all the design changes between the new game and the old, you can't at least whistle in respect at what sort of philosophy animated this game. They took risks and it all paid off so beautifully into something I will say surpasses the original, at least in pure fun, even if it prunes, almost by necessity, some of the original's more chaotic elements.

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Why would you play a PC FPS with a controller? Like the whole point of PC gaming is using the superior bar of soap!

Darksiders PC port was the same way. Best played with a controller unfortunately. Most of the PC ports seem to be doing more and more of this considering the 360 controller is damn near considered the prevalent PC game pad. Less time wasted I suppose.

Originally Posted by Syntax Error I'm the opposite in that I'm so used to KB+M that I resist using a controller even when I should. But I think this is an occasion where I definitely should.

Melee based 3rd person action/platforming games (Assassin's Creed, Amalur, Darksiders, Prince of Persia, etc) and driving games get the controller treatment from me pretty much automatically. I try to use KB+M for most other things, and for any 3rd person games with aimed shooting, but a 360 pad on my PC is priceless at times.

Originally Posted by Outinthedark Why would you play a PC FPS with a controller? Like the whole point of PC gaming is using the superior bar of soap! Darksiders PC port was the same way. Best played with a controller unfortunately. Most of the PC ports seem to be doing more and more of this considering the 360 controller is damn near considered the prevalent PC game pad. Less time wasted I suppose.

If I'm not playing multiplayer on the PC I will most likely use a gamepad when playing. I have my PC hooked up to a TV and I like to lean back and relax while I play not sit over my desk. I am nearly is good with a gamepad as with KB/M. I like that there is more gamepad support, I think some genres are better generally with gamepad while others KB/M and I its nice to have choice. I don't understand why people seem to balk at having a choice in how they play.

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Originally Posted by Syntax Error I just started Darksiders II. Am I correct in thinking I should just play it with a controller? I'm already annoyed that I can't just click on something like "Back" to go back but actually have to hit the ESC key.

I played it with a KB/M with no problems whatsoever and felt it controlled perfectly fine. Funny, I hit ESC for cancel/back/etc for nearly anything in any game and get pissed off beyond belief when that doesn't work heh. Quicker and easier to hit the key then to twitch my hand for a moment.

To me it depends on the game. Some games are just made for controller. Choplifter HD was a bit clunky with KB/M, but the controller made it funner. There is still bad button placement on it though that makes it hard to speed and shoot at the same time.

Mafia doesn't have native controller support I don't think, but any action sandbox type game is made for controller IMO.

Originally Posted by krevee If I'm not playing multiplayer on the PC I will most likely use a gamepad when playing. I have my PC hooked up to a TV and I like to lean back and relax while I play not sit over my desk. I am nearly is good with a gamepad as with KB/M. I like that there is more gamepad support, I think some genres are better generally with gamepad while others KB/M and I its nice to have choice. I don't understand why people seem to balk at having a choice in how they play.

I don't have my PC hooked up to a TV but I like to sit back in my computer chair and relax with a gamepad. The only genres where I really prefer KB/M are APRGs (Diablo, Torchlight), MMOs and certain RPGs (Baldur's Gate, Dragon Age I, etc.) Don't really play RTS but KB/M is clearly the better choice there as well. If I plan on playing an FPS game online, I will get it for consoles so I can have my preferred controls and not be at a disadvantage against KB/M users.

Originally Posted by Outinthedark Why would you play a PC FPS with a controller? Like the whole point of PC gaming is using the superior bar of soap!

I for one grew up using a gamepad for a FPS as I didn't get into playing them on pc til I was older and my first PC gaming experiences were C&C and Diablo series. So therefore, I don't like using a keyboard and mouse for FPS. If I am able I use a gamepad.

Originally Posted by RollingSkull My final opinion on XCOM and Dishonored, if anyone is interested. Dishonored isn't great. It's workmanlike. It delivers a lot of what it promises but what it delivers just doesn't reach the quality of the greats of the genre. (And what genre it is is almost as much a question in and of itself, depending on how you divide the line between Thief and Deus Ex.) A lot of people earned their paychecks and delivered a pretty good game but this is not going to go in the history books, at least not any I'd write. XCOM, however, is great. Looking at all the design changes between the new game and the old, you can't at least whistle in respect at what sort of philosophy animated this game. They took risks and it all paid off so beautifully into something I will say surpasses the original, at least in pure fun, even if it prunes, almost by necessity, some of the original's more chaotic elements.

I actually agree 100% here. Dishonored delivers on what it promises but it's just not as good as the games it tries to be. XCOM is fantastic, and with ironman mode, it just makes the game so much more intense.

Also noticed a new game up, Fairy Bloom Freesia. Looks like a 2D brawler from Japan, published by Capcom. Gonna throw that on the wishlist.

Originally Posted by CrimsonTribe Probably anyone who wants one has it, but here goes:

Thank you, I have been trying to get a key for this forever!

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Some hints on the upcoming IG10:

IndieGala ‏@IndieGala I know what you want... feelin' like Clint Eastwood in a Sergio Leone's movie... ;-) Would you like to play as a Roman General ? Or would you prefer, instead, to wipe out an entire city?

Originally Posted by Mooby Some hints on the upcoming IG10:

Lead and Gold? I woulda said call of Juarez I just don't think they're getting any ubi titles in their bundles.

Originally Posted by Drabelincoln Lead and Gold? I woulda said call of Juarez I just don't think they're getting any ubi titles in their bundles.

Obviously they're going to debut the PC port of Red Dead Redemption.

A little something I wrote:

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Originally Posted by louiedog Obviously they're going to debut the PC port of Red Dead Redemption.

I wish red dead would come to pc.

Maybe it's desperadoes 2 or hellderado?

Keep in mind nine (so probably all but one or so) have Steam keys so it limits the field a bit.