Watched Free Enterprise...always makes me feel better

Originally Posted by Friend of Sonic So Trekcore had an interview, and if I understand right, the extended cut of The Measure of a Man is going to be in proper HD with the original film negatives. I was under the impression they were going to splice in the VHS footage in with the remastered episode, but it sounds like they got it all 100% composited from the negatives. ing amazing. http://tng.trekcore.com/bluray/cbs_adamsgrant2.html

I almost go that impression, but I believed they used the VHS tapes as a guide...they know the fans would not accept up-scaling at all. I am glad they admit they put grain in to match certain shots that they had to rebuild from scratch...makes me feel a lot better...however I am not digging the 120 price tag for season 2.

I'm not too worried about the current price on Amazon... Deep Discount is running it at 76, last I checked. I think we see some deals like we saw Best Buy run.

Awesome.

Originally Posted by Clak You're mad that race entered into Star Trek, seriously? How dare that 24th century black captain be aware of human history, how dare he I say!. That's just sad, man.

Don't get me wrong:
I'm.not mad it entered in, I dont think it was done well at all. In my opinion it was the context that was all wrong for Trek. I know race issues have always been in trek in some form, I was talking about the context of the episode that seemed, to me, way off for normal of the series. DS9 was doing just fine with the race angle on solids and founders, and Cardassians and Bajoriana

You want an awesome episode on civil rights, The Drumhead was incredible. And it was in complete context for the show's timeline. If you need to revisit the past, to overcome it, the story and message loses the edge, IMO. The Drumhead says " we cant fix what we did, but we can fix what we are doing". That is the important message.

And it throws in more than one full storyline with aplomb.

Drumhead (and the better example, Homefront/Paradise Lost) isn't exactly about racism though. The key message from those episodes is that some in power believe it's okay to sacrifice freedom and liberty in the name of security.

The discussion on racism is highly out of context, especially given the better examples of Cardassia's interactions with Bajor, but again, it didn't happen in the present.

Originally Posted by 6er Don't get me wrong: I'm.not mad it entered in, I dont think it was done well at all. In my opinion it was the context that was all wrong for Trek. I know race issues have always been in trek in some form, I was talking about the context of the episode that seemed, to me, way off for normal of the series. DS9 was doing just fine with the race angle on solids and founders, and Cardassians and Bajoriana You want an awesome episode on civil rights, The Drumhead was incredible. And it was in complete context for the show's timeline. If you need to revisit the past, to overcome it, the story and message loses the edge, IMO. The Drumhead says " we cant fix what we did, but we can fix what we are doing". That is the important message. And it throws in more than one full storyline with aplomb.

Maybe it was to give Sisko, someone who hasn't really had to deal with racism, a little perspective? No it really wasn't that either, because the episode was talking to it's audience, not the characters. It showed what had to be overcome to get to the utopia like state earth is in, that's why it was powerful. It was saying that no matter what the future holds, you shouldn't forget the past. Maybe some people think the discussion of racism doesn't belong in Star Trek, or that it seems out of place, but I thought they executed it beautifully. Hell, they could have had Sisko actually go back in time and assume that life, like in Past Tense.

Originally Posted by davo1224 Drumhead (and the better example, Homefront/Paradise Lost) isn't exactly about racism though. The key message from those episodes is that some in power believe it's okay to sacrifice freedom and liberty in the name of security. The discussion on racism is highly out of context, especially given the better examples of Cardassia's interactions with Bajor, but again, it didn't happen in the present.

Drumhead just hit so many levels, its one of those episodes you can watch 10 times and get 10 different meanings.

And yes, if it isn't such a parallel for the condition of the USA today.....

I'm watching Voyager for the first time since it originally aired. I kinda get why people rag on it. It's pretty repetitive. How many times can a similar problem happen?

Is it sad that I think the most interesting character is the EMH Doctor?

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I think Voyager was awesome

Originally Posted by Tony Stark I think Voyager was awesome

Voyager had its moments, but it kind of went to crap when Seven joined the cast.

Originally Posted by pacifickarma Voyager had its moments, but it kind of went to crap when Seven joined the cast.

but it didnt make mistakes other series would have made

example...the Kazon...

...any other series trapped 70,000 light years would have somehow F'd up having the Kazon some how follow Voyager for 70 years

Originally Posted by Tony Stark but it didnt make mistakes other series would have made example...the Kazon... ...any other series trapped 70,000 light years would have somehow F'd up having the Kazon some how follow Voyager for 70 years

Voyager didn't have that kind of ambition.

I didn't understand your wording but would like to discuss. What do you mean about the Kazon?

Originally Posted by davo1224 I didn't understand your wording but would like to discuss. What do you mean about the Kazon?

Kazon...

...they like any race in Star Trek, movie, or even real life have a select region of space that they had, like how gangs have neighborhoods

...the writers were smart and didnt make the Kazon follow Voyager all the way to Earth because you wouldnt have your whole race follow a ship for 70 years to kill it

...that is why they used the whole Kes becoming something greater to throw Voyager forward like 10 years

Saw this new book about TNG at B&N today:

http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-The-...hu-rd_add_1_dp

Looks really interesting. Goes chronologically through TNG's pre-production & each episode with new stories from the cast and crew. Some really interesting stuff that I hadn't read on Memory Alpha before. And it's got a ton of new photos from behind the scenes.

Originally Posted by lordwow Saw this new book about TNG at B&N today: http://www.amazon.com/Star-Trek-The-...hu-rd_add_1_dp Looks really interesting. Goes chronologically through TNG's pre-production & each episode with new stories from the cast and crew. Some really interesting stuff that I hadn't read on Memory Alpha before. And it's got a ton of new photos from behind the scenes.

Is this better than the ST:TNG Companion book from a few years ago?

Star Trek Voyager Season 6 Episode 9 - The Voyager Conspiracy

When Seven is going crazy she legit pulls up a frame of a tracker beam pulling the core of the Caretaker away just like her conspiracy theory claims

There was no explanation to this?

All her other claims can be explained by another reason except that

Amazon.com has season two down to 79.99. Now we're getting closer.