Originally Posted by mr_burnzz They always say it's going to be big and bla bla but it never is for me. I'm in central jersey. Not even worrying about it at all. Hope the rest of you guys aren't going to get too screwed. Be safe, people.

Yep. Looks like much ado about nothing in Central Maine but then again we were never supposed to get the to worse of it.

Hope the rest of you, especially those on the coast luck out. I can take these storms all day long--it's the January/February ice storms I don't like.

Update (BTW, I use the capital weather gang because in past experience they have not hyped shit up and have been fairly accurate)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...html#pagebreak

Posted at 11:09 AM ET, 10/27/2012 Hurricane Sandy still poised to deliver a historic blow to the northeast U.S.

By Brian McNoldy




At first glance, it would appear that Sandy is not the threat it used to be. It is a minimal hurricane, and looks less organized on satellite. DO NOT BE FOOLED! Sandy is already taking on some extratropical characteristics, and the lack of a traditional tropical appearance (symmetric eye, eyewall, etc) does not mean it’s any less of a risk.
As of 11 a.m., the center is located about 355 miles southeast of Charleston, SC and the latest advisory from the National Hurricane Center gives it an intensity of 75 mph, and a pressure of 958 mb, which is considerably lower than last night.
It is possible that Sandy could even completely lose its status as a tropical storm or hurricane, and still be a terrible hybrid/extratropical storm with the same destructive power as a major hurricane. Do not focus on what category it is and make plans based on that. Sandy is still forecast to intensify as it heads north and interacts with energy from the approaching trough and front (through a process called “baroclinic enhancement”).






The current size is really big, and it’s getting bigger. Tropical storm force winds now reach 450 miles out from the center, so at its forward speed of 9 mph, places could begin experiencing tropical storm conditions 45+ hours prior to the arrival of the center. That has serious implications for preparations, because it becomes difficult and dangerous to do outdoor work in tropical storm conditions. Today is the day to wrap up preparations.
A state of emergency has been declared in Virginia, Maryland, D.C., Pennsylvania, New York, Maine, New Jersey and Connecticut. New Jersey has also begun limited coastal evacuations including the southern barrier islands. Delaware is right behind if nothing changes. Additional evacuations and state of emergency issuances are likely today.




The infrastructure (power, roadways, trains, busses, airlines) in these states is preparing for the storm as best they can and preparing customers for the anticipated cancellations in the next few days.
Models continue to agree on a very intense storm coming ashore somewhere between the Delmarva peninsula and Rhode Island (the greatest concentration of models as well as the official NHC forecast are around New Jersey), but locations hundreds of miles away will feel its effects, so don’t focus too much on the exact track.

Now for a post on my personal commentary. I was at the store yesterday buying a loaf of bread and a gallon of milk for the kids along with some hot dogs and other shit that we need for the week (even without the storm) plus some foods that don't need to be cooked (though technically hot dogs don't). While there, I saw some woman shopping, she had 2 kids. Her shopping cart was overflowing. She had 4 loaves of bread and 4 gallons of milk. I mean come the on. She could have bought two of each and been fine. Now someone else isn't going to get bread and milk. WTF is wrong with people? I bet her bread molds before she eats it all. Also, the gas stations are full of people...

Originally Posted by Blaster man I mean come the on. She could have bought two of each and been fine. Now someone else isn't going to get bread and milk. WTF is wrong with people? I bet her bread molds before she eats it all.

You can freeze bread and milk. Frozen milk isn't the best for drinking, but it works fine for cooking.

Seems like normal Florida weather. :3
Stay safe everyone.

Originally Posted by blindinglights You can freeze bread and milk. Frozen milk isn't the best for drinking, but it works fine for cooking.

Good point. What I was getting at is buying that much before a hurricane will make someone else not have any.

Originally Posted by Blaster man Good point. What I was getting at is buying that much before a hurricane will make someone else not have any.

It just doesn't seem like an unusual amount to me, especially if she has more kids and a husband at home. I guess I didn't just immediately assume she was hoarding.

I am being told this is going to hit West Virginia - but on our Local news websites it doesn't show much. Hm.

Originally Posted by Superstar I am being told this is going to hit West Virginia - but on our Local news websites it doesn't show much. Hm.

I don't believe it man

Originally Posted by WV Matsui I don't believe it man

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...html#pagebreak

Will it snow? Toward the end of the storm on Tuesday, D.C.’s west/northwest suburbs, especially Frederick/Loudoun counties and spots over 1,000 feet, could see some snowflakes, but accumulation isn’t likely. Heavy snow is likely in the mountains of West Virginia and southwest Virginia (and maybe Western Maryland), with some accumulations over a foot combined with wind gusts over 50 mph resulting in power outages.


One model suggests a little wet snow could fall west of town if enough cold air wraps in.



What are the worst- and best-case scenarios? As of now, we are probably looking at either a “very bad” scenario (70% chance) or a “worst-case” scenario (30% chance). See our storm scenario post for a full explanation.





How strong will the winds be and what is the risk of power outages? Right now we think peak winds late Monday into early Tuesday will be around 25-45 mph sustained west of I-95 with gusts to 45-60 mph, and 30-50 mph sustained east of I-95 with gusts to 50-65 mph. In a worst-case scenario, winds could be more like 30-45 mph sustained west of I-95 with gusts to 45-60 mph, and 35-55 mph sustained east of I-95 with gusts to 55-70 mph. Either way, power outages are likely and many could be without power for multiple days.




How much rain will we get? What about flooding? Right now we’re estimating rainfall totals of 3-6” west of I-95 and 4-8” east of I-95, resulting in flooding of low-lying areas and rivers/streams/creeks. In a worst-case scenario, rainfall could be more like 4-7” west of I-95 and 5-10” east of I-95, resulting in more severe flooding. In either case, these are average estimates and locally higher or lower totals are always possible.

Why isn’t Sandy going out to sea? To put it simply, there’s a traffic jam in the atmosphere. A “blocking” area of high pressure west of Greenland and a big ocean storm to its east are working to prevent a cold front coming from the west from pushing Sandy out to sea.


Isn’t the storm not supposed to be a hurricane once it gets here? Technically, yes. The storm is losing its tropical characteristics as it moves north into cooler air. But, it’s expected to strengthen again as an unusual pattern featuring multiple jet streaks (rivers of fast-moving winds high up in the atmosphere) pumps the storm with a new shot of energy.


What will schools and governments (federal and local) do on Monday-Tuesday? Seems likely there will be a lot of closings.


What about coastal flooding? Major coastal flooding is possible for Maryland and Delaware beaches. In the worst-case scenario, severe to historic coastal flooding is possible with 48 hours or more of onshore flow. The combination of a storm surge of 5 feet and astronomically high tides could raise water levels 10 feet above normal.


How does this compare to other historic storms? Many have compared Sandy to the Perfect Storm of 1991, and experts have warned it may be even worse. Generally speaking, though, each storm has its own character and sometimes you just can’t compare until all is said and done.


http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/grap...large#contents

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wont happen but say it would of ..

if it hit new york city head on would it flooded out all of the subways or is there a way to protect them from something like this

Originally Posted by slidecage wont happen but say it would of .. if it hit new york city head on would it flooded out all of the subways or is there a way to protect them from something like this

They would shut down the Subways and other Mass Transit. They're talking about doing it anyway at 7PM Sunday.

http://transportationnation.org/2012...wn-nyc-subway/

http://transportationnation.org/2012...stem-shutdown/

Originally Posted by mitch079 They would shut down the Subways and other Mass Transit. They're talking about doing it anyway at 7PM Sunday. http://transportationnation.org/2012...wn-nyc-subway/ http://transportationnation.org/2012...stem-shutdown/

i mean they would be down for days or months since how would they get the water out of them,,,, and a major cold front came in and froze all of that water ...


that would be one freaking mess

And this is why I prefer the Capital Weather Gang. As I said earlier, I've used them in the past and NEVER had problems with them exaggerating to get viewers/clicks. They said that WV and western VA can get up to a foot of snow.

Now look at ABC...
http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricane-s...8#.UIyFBIY4fPo

The storm will affect the eastern third of the country -- not just the coast -- and include inland flooding around Maryland and Pennsylvania and up to two feet of snow in West Virginia, said Louis Uccellini, director of the National Centers for Environmental Prediction. Normal weathercasters will throw out the most extreme possibility no matter how unlikely.

Originally Posted by mr_burnzz They always say it's going to be big and bla bla but it never is for me. I'm in central jersey. Not even worrying about it at all. Hope the rest of you guys aren't going to get too screwed. Be safe, people.

I'm from Central Jersey too, it was hilarious last time when the last hurricane came and everybody was freaking out at my local Costco and were buying power generators left and right, after the storm passed Costco got an influx of people returning said (unopened) power generators.

East Coast CAG's: stay safe! (especially the NJ CAG's) By the way what games will you guys be playing as you wait out the storm?

Originally Posted by aronater East Coast CAG's: stay safe! (especially the NJ CAG's) By the way what games will you guys be playing as you wait out the storm?

Awesome deal on BioShock 1 + 2 on Amazon right now...probably those :P

Originally Posted by aronater East Coast CAG's: stay safe! (especially the NJ CAG's) By the way what games will you guys be playing as you wait out the storm?

Metro 2033


http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...html#pagebreak

Posted at 11:09 PM ET, 10/27/2012 Hurricane Sandy: Raging winds and high water to leave mark on Mid-Atlantic



By Jason Samenow
Sandy’s approach to the Mid-Atlantic region this evening is palpable. Its sprawling cloud shield has overspread the region and winds are already gusting over 30 mph at the Maryland and Delaware beaches.
At 11 p.m., Sandy was 360 miles east southeast of Charleston, South Carolina with sustained winds of 75 mph. The central pressure was down to 960 mb.
Reading through blogs and recent statements from the National Weather Service, I’m presently most impressed by two things:
1) Sandy’s incredible size and its associated wind field
2) The amount of water it’s going to push ashore at the beaches
Sandy’s size and associated wind
Meteorologist Angela Fritz of wunderground notes Sandy is now tied for the second largest tropical cyclone since 1988.
“Sandy’s tropical storm-force winds now extend 450 nautical miles from the center on the northeast side of the hurricane,” Fritz writes. “This is a very, very large storm, and I suspect the #1 spot (Olga of 2001) is in jeopardy, as well.”
Evidence of the storm’s unusual size? It’s more than 300 miles east of South Carolina, and in eastern North Carolina, the National Weather Service has logged its first reports of downed trees.
I’m not the only one impressed by how big this storm is and how far from its center it’s generating hazardous winds. Writes our local National Weather Service office:
...CANNOT RECALL EVER SEEING MODEL FORECASTS OF SUCH AN EXPANSIVE AREAL WIND FIELD WITH VALUES SO HIGH FOR SO LONG A TIME. WE ARE BREAKING NEW GROUND HERE.
Reminder: a high wind watch covers the region Sunday night through Tuesday, for sustained winds of 35-45 mph and gusts to 60 mph.
Water at the Maryland and Delaware Beaches, the Chesapeake Bay and Tidal Potomac
The water is rising in Ocean City, Maryland, where levels are already 1.5 feet above average. Water levels are forecast to reach as much as 4 feet above normal by Monday with wave heights of 8 to 14 feet. Says the National Weather Service:
SEVERE FLOODING IS EXPECTED WITHIN A FEW HOURS EITHER SIDE OF HIGH TIDE MONDAY MORNING. . . . WATER LEVELS FROM CHINCOTEAGUE TO OCEAN CITY COULD RIVAL THOSE REACHED IN GLORIA IN 1985.
A similar situation is forecast for the Delaware beaches where coastal flood warnings and high surf warnings are also in effect. Assuming the storm moves north of the Maryland and Delaware beaches, winds will become offshore, ending the coastal flood risk Monday night into Tuesday.
The situation is not as serious for the western shores of the Chesapeake Bay and the Tidal Potomac. Some minor flooding is possible into Monday, with levels around 1 foot above normal. By Tuesday, some moderate flooding could occur, with levels up to 1.5 to 3 feet above normal and a coastal flood watch is in effect. By comparison, levels were up to 9 feet above normal during Isabel.






http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/grap...nd120#contents


http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/zoom/hltimages.shtml

Originally Posted by aronater East Coast CAG's: stay safe! (especially the NJ CAG's) By the way what games will you guys be playing as you wait out the storm?

I've been replaying valkyria chronicles. For those that have played it, you know how much time this game requires! Frustrating game though..

Originally Posted by mr_burnzz I've been replaying valkyria chronicles. For those that have played it, you know how much time this game requires! Frustrating game though..

I thought that game was supposed to be good? I still haven't bought it...