My wife and I stopped by a local Apple store over the weekend to checkout the Retina Ipad when we saw the Ipad Mini. That thing feels like its 4x lighter than the Retina Ipad. I really thought that the Mini was going to be my first Mac product until I read the specs (2011 A5 chip and non-Retina display). This world is just so cruel. I'm going to have to look into other tablet options.

By the way, does anyone know if the Apple tablets will work on any existing wireless router, or are they so picky and only work with their proprietary Apple wireless router?

Originally Posted by Investor By the way, does anyone know if the Apple tablets will work on any existing wireless router, or are they so picky and only work with their proprietary Apple wireless router?

Yes, any wireless router should be fine.

Originally Posted by Investor My wife and I stopped by a local Apple store over the weekend to checkout the Retina Ipad when we saw the Ipad Mini. That thing feels like its 4x lighter than the Retina Ipad. I really thought that the Mini was going to be my first Mac product until I read the specs (2011 A5 chip and non-Retina display). This world is just so cruel. I'm going to have to look into other tablet options. By the way, does anyone know if the Apple tablets will work on any existing wireless router, or are they so picky and only work with their proprietary Apple wireless router?

Google Nexus 7.

Originally Posted by htz I almost forgot to mention this... AmazonLocal is offering a free voucher to get 30% off Select Kindle Accessories ($30 maximum). http://local.amazon.com/deals/B00AB25HMS

Thanks!

If you're looking for cheaper, cowboom.com has the Kindle Fire (Pre-Owned) for 89.99 + 5 shipping today.

Originally Posted by orangecrush Yes, it is pretty good for that (though not as good as the paper white).

I actually managed to adjust the color and text font until I enjoy it much more than the paper white. I read a lot in low-light or dark areas and being able to have white text on a black background has gone a long way to curb my eye strain. This might also be an option on the paper white but I didn't spend enough time with it to know (was borrowing a friends for the day).

Originally Posted by Woocls I actually managed to adjust the color and text font until I enjoy it much more than the paper white. I read a lot in low-light or dark areas and being able to have white text on a black background has gone a long way to curb my eye strain. This might also be an option on the paper white but I didn't spend enough time with it to know (was borrowing a friends for the day).

Its not. Paper white is just a e ink screen with a backlight.

e ink is the BEST for reading. Normal kindles with e ink screen still cant be beat for simply reading books.

The fire is a piece of crap IMHO. I got one for my birthday and found it unusable. After struggling with it nonstop, I gave it to the wife.

Bought one as a gift for my Mom and used the 30% off coupon to get a case for $7.59.
This should be perfect for her.

How well does the fire handle image intensive homemade pdfs?
I still occasionally play DnD with my friends, but I'm getting kind of sick of hauling 20-30 pounds of books to the sessions.
Also, do you HAVE to have wifi/3g, or can you put content onto it via usb?

My mother loves her Kindle Fire HD, but prepared to have to have an amazon account and a credit/debit card on file just to download stuff. There are ways around it but if you are using it as is, that is what to watch out for, as you can't download any apps or games without having something on file. Not a big deal though, just for her it was, as she didn't want her information saved on amazon.com at first.

As far as hooking up via a computer with USB, you do get access to the built in storage if you want to dump files to it, but you may want to find a file browsing app to use on the kindle (can't think of the name but there are plenty out there to get off the amazon market).

Originally Posted by VA The fire is a piece of crap IMHO. I got one for my birthday and found it unusable. After struggling with it nonstop, I gave it to the wife.

Your avatar fits you nicely.

Originally Posted by Kaiselius How well does the fire handle image intensive homemade pdfs? I still occasionally play DnD with my friends, but I'm getting kind of sick of hauling 20-30 pounds of books to the sessions. Also, do you HAVE to have wifi/3g, or can you put content onto it via usb?

I imagine it handles them just fine. I mean, it handles full motion video... And you can transfer stuff using usb just fine. that's how I put the humble bundle APKs on it.

The guy who said you need a proprietary plug for it was wrong. I charge mine off my cellphone charger all the time.

Root it and put Jelly Bean on it and you'll have one rad little tablet.

Part of me want to buy this but I would guess msrp would be this or less before long.

Thinking about getting one for my mother, she was curious about one and this is actually a good price. For someone who isn't tech savvy, would anyone recommend this? Or should I spring for the Fire HD for her?

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Originally Posted by m3talst0rm If you're looking for cheaper, cowboom.com has the Kindle Fire (Pre-Owned) for 89.99 + 5 shipping today.

1... its used

2... its the first one


this one is the new upgraded model


Tempted to buy one just to play games on it but Just cant pull the trigger

at 99 bucks i would of and if IT CAME WITH THE CHARGER (WHAT IT DONT) i would of

I had a Fire, bought one at launch. Wasn't a bad tablet, but the gimped android O/S, lack of Google Play store, substandard Silk browser, and limited storage finally pushed me to upgrade to a Google Nexus 7, and sell my original Fire. Not a bad tablet, but those issues just finished it for me; and I decided against the new crop of HD Fires for some of those reasons as well.

Eh, as much as my back would thank me, I think I'm gonna pass. Besides the book portion, it's sever capacity and media format(I can understand mkv, but no avi support?) limits really reduce it's usefulness for me. Plus the increase in price to get rid of the nag screen pretty much cancels out most of the savings from the deal.
Wouldn't be surprised if it goes cheaper in a few months anyways.

wonder how many gb some of these RPG games are out there


I hope it goes out of stock soon cause im really freaked tempted to buy one just to play games on it..


is it worth it just to play games on them