Originally Posted by JaylisJayP That's more or less true, just a matter of preference. I also would much rather go for achievements because they build a cumulative score as opposed to trophies which are just specific for each game.

That's not even true. Trophies accumulate and build a level, similar to RPGs. The only achievements I am aware of that don't add up are the Steam ones. The PlayStation ones certainly do.

Originally Posted by Zimmy I grabbed 2 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches before taking a number 2.

Your response made me laugh. Sometime CAGs think this is Facebook. " I went to the store and returned a game" or "I got my game in the mail". Who fuking cares?!

Edit: it seems the shovelware games continue on the WiiU.
http://m.ign.com/articles/2012/12/03...n-wii-u-review

Originally Posted by oasisboy I think I found a Nintendo fanboy. You keep sucking up to them with your posts. Nintendo is not a job creator in this country and we don't care how many jobs they create in Japan. How bad is your life that you keep defending a toy company. People are just stating their opinion, why does everything criticizing Nintendo is considered "hating" in your mind. Does it hurt that much that people say negative things about Nintendo?

yeah I am a huge fanboy.

the only console i don't have is the vita. And my xbox is the one that gets the most use. Huge nintendo fanboy here.

If there are any CAGs in the Portland, OR area - I have a Deluxe from Best Buy up for grabs for retail price. I'm going to return it in the next few days if no one wants it. I pre-ordered and wanted to change my payment method when I went to pick it up, so I could use some gift cards, but they wouldn't let me (I guess this goes for all pick up orders). So I got it anyway...but thinking about it, I think I'm just going to wait for a price drop. So it's unopened and has a store pick up receipt.

No catch - not trying to flip, but the Deluxe is still kind of hard to find around here, so thought I'd try and help a CAG out before just returning it.

Originally Posted by confoosious yeah I am a huge fanboy. the only console i don't have is the vita. And my xbox is the one that gets the most use. Huge nintendo fanboy here.

just put this guy on ignore

I'm returning our Wii U Deluxe today (unopened), but it's not that I (we - me and my kids) don't want it. I think it looks fun. It's just that it's a lot of money and there aren't many games yet (of course). Hopefully we'll get one next Xmas and hopefully by then the price is lower. At the least there will be a bigger library of games to choose from which will make it seem more worth it.

Instead I'm getting us a PS3. The BF deal with Uncharted 1&2 and Infamous 1&2 and 1 month of PS+, for $200. Even having to buy a 2nd controller, and having bought a couple more games (Little Big Planet 2 and 3D Dot Game Heroes), I'm spending less than the cost of a Wii U Basic alone and there's a bunch of good exclusive games to check out.

Toys R Us in times square NYC had mountains of these:

Going to wait like everyone else for either a price drop or a nice bundle. Don't see any games that I want to play except for NSMBU.

Originally Posted by jkam Toys R Us in times square NYC had mountains of these:

Holy crap...

Originally Posted by oasisboy Forza > Grand Turismo Kinetic > Move Xbox Live > Sony online (ps+ is a different Animal) Lost Odyssey, Alan Wake, Kinect Sports. ESPN3 is easily a great app. Arcade games like banjo kazooie and perfect dark.

Kinect, better than Move? Ha, you obviously never owned a Kinect - which is made all the more obvious from your spelling, or lack thereof, of it. Granted, Kinect wasn't horrible, but it felt like Microsoft fell short of really achieving something amazing with it.

Originally Posted by SolidSnake86 Kinect, better than Move? Ha, you obviously never owned a Kinect - which is made all the more obvious from your spelling, or lack thereof, of it. Granted, Kinect wasn't horrible, but it felt like Microsoft fell short of really achieving something amazing with it.

How can you even compare Kinect and Move? They're nothing alike. Hey my treadmill is better than Kinect and Move COMBINED!

How about you compare Wii Motion Plus to Move?

I just wonder how this thread would have changed if it were the Wii all over again, aka if this was absolutely no where to be found on store shelves (with the same game library it has now). Would that have people scrambling for it just because of the short supply?

So the flippers got their wishes dashed. Who was it that called it months ago? Its good that people who want it don't have to pay crazy prices.

Loving the system btw.

Originally Posted by SolidSnake86 Kinect, better than Move? Ha, you obviously never owned a Kinect - which is made all the more obvious from your spelling, or lack thereof, of it. Granted, Kinect wasn't horrible, but it felt like Microsoft fell short of really achieving something amazing with it.

I was typing on my phone and it auto corrected. I have owned both Kinect and Move from day 1.

Kinect isn't perfect but my wife and kids have a blast playing it.

Originally Posted by Blaster man How can you even compare Kinect and Move? They're nothing alike. Hey my treadmill is better than Kinect and Move COMBINED! How about you compare Wii Motion Plus to Move?

Totally bad analogy. They are and they aren't the same thing. Both Kinect and Move were going after the casual fan who enjoyed the motion control of the Wii. Move was an obvious clone of wii peripheral while Kinect was truly different since it didn't require a controller.

Move > Wii motion plus. That's what experts said. Unfortunately few games take advantage of the Move option.

Originally Posted by gmsick So the flippers got their wishes dashed. Who was it that called it months ago? Its good that people who want it don't have to pay crazy prices. Loving the system btw.

Dashed? Preorder slips went for $600 on eBay. I think those who sold early did just fine.

Originally Posted by SaraAB I just wonder how this thread would have changed if it were the Wii all over again, aka if this was absolutely no where to be found on store shelves (with the same game library it has now). Would that have people scrambling for it just because of the short supply?

Mmhmm. If a Nintendo console is hard to find they are doing it on purpose to manipulate the market. If they make sure they have enough to keep stores getting some stock in it becomes 'Look! no one is buying it!'

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Big boy prices for little boy games.

Originally Posted by gordojones88 Little boy games for big boy prices.

Are you talking about CoD and Halo and their ilk? Games for angsty teenagers that offer pretty much zero challenge outside of multiplayer.

Originally Posted by Octopod Are you talking about CoD and Halo and their ilk? Games for angsty teenagers that offer pretty much zero challenge outside of multiplayer.

I'd rather play The Witcher 2 and Skyrim than Mario or Zelda. Nintendo makes some good games no doubt about that but IMO they don't hold a candle to many other games being developed. When will Dragon Age Origins or DA2 show up on the Wii? When 3 comes out will it be released on the Wii U? Metro Last Light? I'd take that over some Metroid FPS.