Originally Posted by bantheradio Death Rally coupon has been fixed. It looks like the coupon, when added to your cart, changes the price of Death Rally to $9.99 with a strikethru above it for the original Alan Wake discount price of $8.49.

Nice! Just bought it!

Originally Posted by Motoki Bla bla bla I am right you are wrong bla bla bla usual internet crap. REREAD MY EDITED POST I don't care. I don't feel comfortable doing it. Have your argument. There you are right. You won at the internets.

It's understood that it isn't something you are will to do, however, other people using this thread may be interested in knowing more about the Steam policies concerning this issue.

Nobody is trying to pressure you into doing something you don't want to do, Motoki. We're all here to support you. Your family loves you.

Originally Posted by sunghost i agree that they should fix the coupon, but it's not against the terms to have a second account with the same billing info. They state that multiple accounts are allowed, i'm sure the same goes for billing info, would make no sense otherwise. I think its just paranoia getting to you guys, but i understand if you want to wait until the coupon is fixed. The only time you seriously risk getting banned or having your account restricted is if you're abusing the system or exploiting it somehow, like what people did back during the xmas event last year. And even then.. The only accounts that got banned were people that made hundreds of them.

yo, you need to chill out suntoast!

I think that santa hat has gone to your head!

It ain't xmas yet so tell spoderman to keep his gifts to himself!

Originally Posted by asheskitty I have one steam account with installs on two gaming PCs (new & old) and two laptops (Mac & PC). I tend to keep the secondaries in offline mode.

I may do that with my new HTPC build. The only games that would likely be on that, for now, are some I can play with my 3-year old, like a train simulator. I can either have games on my main account and run Steam on that system in offline mode, or I can have games in a secondary account that runs on that system. The only thing with that second option is I would need to do more to keep track of what is kept in what account. I need to make a decision soon, as my Amazon copy of Ship Simulator Extreme is one that will likely be played on the HTPC and I'll have to redeem it on one account or the other.

For what it's worth, my primary Steam account dates to January 2005 (when I redeemed a retail box of HL 1 on it) and my second Steam account dates to August 2005 (when I redeemed a retail box of HL 2 on it.) At first I rather distrusted Steam and wanted any game I had on it to be in an account on its own. Once I started actually using Steam more I ended up just sticking with that primary account. The second one just sits there.

I should really go back to trying to beat Darksiders. I need a game I could beat in roughly 13-15 hours which I estimate is the amount of time I will get to play from now until next Thursday which all hell breaks loose. Already have about 2-3 hours in.

Also we should really start a new thread this week/next monday. Don't want this thread to crash every page comes Holiday Sale .

Originally Posted by gilby I may do that with my new HTPC build. The only games that would likely be on that, for now, are some I can play with my 3-year old, like a train simulator. I can either have games on my main account and run Steam on that system in offline mode, or I can have games in a secondary account that runs on that system. The only thing with that second option is I would need to do more to keep track of what is kept in what account. I need to make a decision soon, as my Amazon copy of Ship Simulator Extreme is one that will likely be played on the HTPC and I'll have to redeem it on one account or the other. For what it's worth, my primary Steam account dates to January 2005 (when I redeemed a retail box of HL 1 on it) and my second Steam account dates to August 2005 (when I redeemed a retail box of HL 2 on it.) At first I rather distrusted Steam and wanted any game I had on it to be in an account on its own. Once I started actually using Steam more I ended up just sticking with that primary account. The second one just sits there.

I guess congrats on starting your 3rd Steam account whenever Half-Life 3 is released.

Originally Posted by asheskitty ^_^ I know what you're saying. I don't think we're on the same page however. There's a facebook coupon for 90% off that people who own Alan Wake (who get an automatic 15% off) aren't able to use. It they stacked normally, say, $10 * (1 - 0.90) * (1 - 0.15) = $0.85 and I imagine people would buy it. However people aren't able to, so I assume it's working like $10 * (1 - (0.90 + 0.15)) = - $0.50 (get the game free and $0.50 for your trouble).

I caught that as well, and the other part of my correction was that Steam coupons have never worked that way. Steam has always had two options for coupons, as far as I remember. Your first one, then not working at all.

YES. Free The Secret World! Now I can get back to playing. Not worth 15$ a month but so worth 50$ initial purchase! Hopefully they are around long enough for me to finish my character.

Any thoughts on the Daily Deal? I like TD games pretty well but I can't say I've heard of this one.

Originally Posted by walkonshadows I guess congrats on starting your 3rd Steam account whenever Half-Life 3 is released.

Heh.

Obviously, at this point, I'd rather not do that. My usage of Steam then was much different than my usage of Steam now.

Originally Posted by Sir_Fragalot I should really go back to trying to beat Darksiders. I need a game I could beat in roughly 13-15 hours which I estimate is the amount of time I will get to play from now until next Thursday which all hell breaks loose. Already have about 2-3 hours in. Also we should really start a new thread this week/next monday. Don't want this thread to crash every page comes Holiday Sale .

Do it, it's a great game and plus then you'll have an excuse to grab Darksiders II .

The Little Big Bunch someone mentioned a couple days ago is live now.

Open for a week, the deal is any 5 of the following 10 titles for $10:

Archon Classic is React! Games reborn version of the epic fantasy strategy game, which takes board games to whole new level. Dark Scavenger takes an iteration of the RPG genre that is generally thought of as obsolete and breathes fresh life into it. Disciples II Gold is Strategy First’s turn-based fantasy bundle, comprising the award winning Disciples II Dark Prophecy and its acclaimed expansions, while Head Up Games’ Grotesque Tactics is a satirical story driven RPG which parodies the genre and allows you to rescue half naked virgins. Firefly’s Space Colony HD is you let loose in an RTS set in a space station crewed with a collection of deadbeats, renegades and a disco obsessed Swede. Did we mention the aliens sawing through your oxygen supply? Serious Sam The Random encounter is a splendidly odd JRPG offshoot of Croteam’s shooter series, while Tofu 1&2 features the world’s most malleable martial artist To-Fu in a hugely fun 300+ level platformer. The Trouble With Robots is Digital Chestnuts’ splendid side-scrolling customisable card game, set in a fantasy world invaded by those troublesome robots. Unstoppable Gorg is Futuremark’s cracking sci-fi tower defence offering which sees you Defend the solar system from flying saucers and alien monsters. Worms Reloaded is Team 17’s classic invertebrate battler with the usual dose of hilarious mayhem and carnage

Browsing their main page suggests that all of the above except worms are DRM-free, and Worms Reloaded provides a steam key. Not sure if keys are available for the others in addition to the direct downloads.


A couple of the games look interesting to me, but not THAT interesting (and I don't know if there are 5 I want), and less so without steam. Besides how they've probably been cheaper at various points in the past or very near future…

Originally Posted by Arben The Little Big Bunch someone mentioned a couple days ago is live now. Open for a week, the deal is any 5 of the following 10 titles for $10: Browsing their main page suggests that all of the above except worms are DRM-free, and Worms Reloaded provides a steam key. Not sure if keys are available for the others in addition to the direct downloads. A couple of the games look interesting to me, but not THAT interesting (and I don't know if there are 5 I want), and less so without steam. Besides how they've probably been cheaper at various points in the past or very near future…

So they go from giving bundles away, to being the most expensive indie bundle out there. Lol. It's not the greed talkin, just saying that's quite a jump. They're on their way to GATT'ing themselves.

Originally Posted by asheskitty Totally! ^_~

Originally Posted by CheapLikeAFox Severose=asheskitty I've known that for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Eldredpe It's understood that it isn't something you are will to do, however, other people using this thread may be interested in knowing more about the Steam policies concerning this issue. Nobody is trying to pressure you into doing something you don't want to do, Motoki. We're all here to support you. Your family loves you.

When I saw he was going on and on and on about it and wouldn't let it go I quickly edited my post within a few minutes but I guess when you keep hitting refresh so that you can get your next volley out in an internet argument you get the original post and not the one that was edited 5 minutes later to try and end the damned arguing. Note the 4 minutes between the original post and him posting his.

He also didn't go back and edit his when I edited mine to clarify that I don't CARE if that's (his interpretation of) the rules and bla bla. I don't want to do it.

I'm just tired of people on the internet turning everything into a gotta be right and have the last word debate.

Steam policies are complex and confusing. There are multiple interpretations of them by various people. I've seen Valve employees themselves seemingly contradict them.

Ultimately it's their store and they can do what ever they want. If they think someone is doing something supicious they can revoke privileges and I've seen multiple reports of that being done. In some cases the people claim to not even know what they did to cause it and Valve wouldn't tell them.

Even if you can prove your innocence dealing with Steam support, getting someone to listen to you and getting through to someone who actually has the authority to reinstate access is a whole ordeal.

If there is even a .00000000001% chance that I could do something that might be misconstrued as supsicious or abuse I'm not going to risk my account for it because someone on the internet insists that it is okay and his interpetation is the correct one.

Maybe they have me scared and paranoid or whatever and so be it. I've dealt with their customer service and even for stupid little things it's a nightmare. I can't even imagine what it would be like to have to try to get your account reinstated.

Originally Posted by sleeping_lights_on YES. Free The Secret World! Now I can get back to playing. Not worth 15$ a month but so worth 50$ initial purchase! Hopefully they are around long enough for me to finish my character.

Wait, explain that a bit. Is there an offline SP mode, or did you get enough online credit when you bought it that you got your fill?

Originally Posted by Sir_Fragalot I should really go back to trying to beat Darksiders. I need a game I could beat in roughly 13-15 hours which I estimate is the amount of time I will get to play from now until next Thursday which all hell breaks loose. Already have about 2-3 hours in. Also we should really start a new thread this week/next monday. Don't want this thread to crash every page comes Holiday Sale .

i need to get back to darksiders as well. Im 13 hours in and was loving it. I got sidetracked by Sleeping Dogs when it came out, and then Xcom. I beat both of those games but never went back to darksiders. I ended up beating 3 splinter cell games instead, playing halfway through Viking: Battle of Asgard, and wasting time on several casual games.

...Transcripted has been fun so far. The elvels are starting to get pretty damn difficult though. Its a hybrid between a twin-stick shooter and luxor/zuma + a skill tree. Theres even a half decent story thrown in between levels.

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Originally Posted by walkonshadows Wait, explain that a bit. Is there an offline SP mode, or did you get enough online credit when you bought it that you got your fill?

They removed the monthly fee from the game. I will say sleeping's post was quite confusing and hard to understand. But I am pretty sure he meant that the monthly fee is gone so now he can play again and he hopes they don't shut the game down before he has time to finish playing (assuming to max level or something) his character.

Originally Posted by walkonshadows Wait, explain that a bit. Is there an offline SP mode, or did you get enough online credit when you bought it that you got your fill?

As I understand it, they've decided to drop subscriptions completely. So if you've bought the game you effectively have it forever* like you do with Guild Wars 2.

RockPaperShotgun has an interviewy article about it here.

I'll admit, I'm curious about it. I'm generally burnt out on MMOs but the idea of returning to one whenever I feel like it appeals to me. I've played bits and pieces of GW2 over the last few months and I don't feel cheated because I'm not shelling out £8.99 a month.

GMG had it for £6.49 recently, and you could've had 30% off that with a voucher code. Sadly, I didn't know about the impending change to a "no-sub" model back then otherwise I would've picked it up I'll certainly keep my eye on it for a cheap sale though.

* - however long that is.

Oh bugger. I wish I'd known TSW had the subscription removed. I would have bought it on GMG a short while back.

Originally Posted by asheskitty Oh bugger. I wish I'd known TSW had the subscription removed. I wouldn't bought it on GMG a short while back.

This doesn't make sense to me.