Originally Posted by CaseyRyback The second half of last season was so terrible that I am kind of glad the Rangers didn't resign him. He swung at so many shit pitches that it was unbelievable. Also don't think that lineup will give him any more protection to hide that. Beltre ing murdered it the second half and he still stayed in the funk. Until he is willing to lay off balls out of the zone he ain't worth 25 million over 5 years. Put Kinsler in the OF and move Olt to 1B and rock out with that.

didnt he swing poorly due to an injury affecting his vision?

Originally Posted by integralsmatic didnt he swing poorly due to an injury affecting his vision?

No. That was something that kept him out later in the season. The excuse was quitting chewing tobacco and how God was testing him.

Originally Posted by HornyPony I will be very pissed of if Yankees go after Bourjos or Trumbo.

Trumbo maybe, I doubt they have any interest in Bourjos. I think the Yanks are focused on moving Granderson. So maybe Granderson for Trumbo? Although I want to see Granderson get traded to Texas for one of their SS.

Originally Posted by kill3r7 Trumbo maybe, I doubt they have any interest in Bourjos. I think the Yanks are focused on moving Granderson. So maybe Granderson for Trumbo? Although I want to see Granderson get traded to Texas for one of their SS.

The reason the Angels would be trading Bourjos or Trumbo is because they have too many outfielders, trading an OF for an OF would make zero sense.

Originally Posted by tcrash247 The reason the Angels would be trading Bourjos or Trumbo is because they have too many outfielders, trading an OF for an OF would make zero sense.

I agree but I don't see how else the Yankees could trade for either one of those players.

Everyone mentions moving Bourjos, but I don't know if that happens. Josh rarely plays more than 130 games, and they are going to want to DH him some. You factor that in with some rest for some of their other guys, and they could carve out a nice role for him.

Originally Posted by kill3r7 I agree but I don't see how else the Yankees could trade for either one of those players.

I'm pretty sure if the Angels would want to trade either of them they'd either want prospects or a SP, so if the Yankees have any prospects, that's what they would trade. Or they just wouldn't bother trading for an OF, I don't recall them being linked to anyone besides a passing interest in Hamilton. Besides Ichiro, forgot about him.

Originally Posted by tcrash247 I'm pretty sure if the Angels would want to trade either of them they'd either want prospects or a SP, so if the Yankees have any prospects, that's what they would trade. Or they just wouldn't bother trading for an OF, I don't recall them being linked to anyone besides a passing interest in Hamilton. Besides Ichiro, forgot about him.

The Yankees have a few pitching prospect but they are not trading any of them. They are the future and the only way to keep payroll down in 2014.

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback Everyone mentions moving Bourjos, but I don't know if that happens. Josh rarely plays more than 130 games, and they are going to want to DH him some. You factor that in with some rest for some of their other guys, and they could carve out a nice role for him.

Yeah but you also have aging Pujols on the squad, and he's going to be taking up more and more of those DH spots too, and that's basically his position for the back end of his contract. Especially with Morales playing first or DH for another season or two.

The Angels are basically banking on Pujols and Hamilton providing immediate results. There will be a time in a few years where neither are producing at the levels they're being paid for. That's why the Angels need to hang onto Trumbo, in case something goes wrong. Trumbo is young and Trumbo is only going to get better. To trade him now would be boneheaded, like when the Angels unloaded Napoli to Texas because Scioscia acted like his defense was unsatisfactory or something.

Any space in the outfield needs to belong to Trumbo. Wells just isn't going anywhere, unfortunately. That makes Bourjos is absolutely expendable at this point.

And for the sake of his career, Bourjos needs to find a team where he can play every day. He's been in a "carved out role" of filling in when there were outfielder gaps his whole career with the Angels. But with Pujols (taking up DH spots), Hamilton, Trout and hopefully Trumbo - there just isn't much room. If he can get traded to another team, he'll really have room to grow.

Red Sox sign Ryan Dempster for 2years/$26.5 million.

I like this deal, Dempster's not a sexy signing by any means but he's solid and should be a decent pitcher for them over the next couple of years. Seems like the Sox plan is to remain vaguely competitive over the next few years while not giving up the farm and not giving any long years to free agents. I'm generally on board with that plan, considering that they do have plenty of good talent in the minors which is a couple years out.

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback The second half of last season was so terrible that I am kind of glad the Rangers didn't resign him. He swung at so many shit pitches that it was unbelievable. Also don't think that lineup will give him any more protection to hide that. Beltre ing murdered it the second half and he still stayed in the funk. Until he is willing to lay off balls out of the zone he ain't worth 25 million over 5 years. Put Kinsler in the OF and move Olt to 1B and rock out with that.

The biggest problem here is that Kinsler's production (WAR, UZR and all that good stuff) would be subpar for an OF. He would essentially be costing the team money, and probably lots of it if he is in the OF. It'd be less of a loss (but still a loss) if he moved to first base. I fully expect him to be a 1B next season and Olt to be traded sometime soon in a package for a hitter, or perhaps a pitcher.

However, I think Ian is more suited for 1B than OF, but also is better suited for a place in the order that isn't leading off. Leave leading off to Andrus (if he is still on the team) or Gentry/Profar. Maybe his numbers will rise, who knows.

The Rangers FO has had nearly 30 million, maybe more, to work with this offseason and they've done nearly nothing but sign Soria and Soto. Part of me wants to believe that JD has something brewing that we don't know about, but part of me also believes that the Rangers want to bring up their youth this year and see what they truly have. It might not be a rebuilding year, per say, but I wouldn't surprised if you see a drastically different Rangers team across all aspects of the game.

Originally Posted by GhostShark The biggest problem here is that Kinsler's production (WAR, UZR and all that good stuff) would be subpar for an OF. He would essentially be costing the team money, and probably lots of it if he is in the OF. It'd be less of a loss (but still a loss) if he moved to first base. I fully expect him to be a 1B next season and Olt to be traded sometime soon in a package for a hitter, or perhaps a pitcher. However, I think Ian is more suited for 1B than OF, but also is better suited for a place in the order that isn't leading off. Leave leading off to Andrus (if he is still on the team) or Gentry/Profar. Maybe his numbers will rise, who knows. The Rangers FO has had nearly 30 million, maybe more, to work with this offseason and they've done nearly nothing but sign Soria and Soto. Part of me wants to believe that JD has something brewing that we don't know about, but part of me also believes that the Rangers want to bring up their youth this year and see what they truly have. It might not be a rebuilding year, per say, but I wouldn't surprised if you see a drastically different Rangers team across all aspects of the game.

I'd agree with some of that. Kinsler would need to hit like he did in 2011 for it to work. Moving him down and moving Profar or Andrus makes a lot of sense.

I have no problem with the youth movement as long as they shore up the bullpen. If Lewis and Feliz come back in the second half they can bolster the rotation and hopefully lead the charge towards a playoff run.

If they make any move on offense I'd like to see them get AJ.

Edit: And I forgot about Wells. I forgot the Angels still had him when discussing subsequent moves. My bad.

Yeah, even though I hate him as a person, he is a decent catcher and left-handed bat. And that is something the team terribly needs now that Hamilton is gone.

Originally Posted by kill3r7 Trumbo maybe, I doubt they have any interest in Bourjos. I think the Yanks are focused on moving Granderson. So maybe Granderson for Trumbo? Although I want to see Granderson get traded to Texas for one of their SS.

Eh makes no sense for Angels as they would be trading a cost controlled outfielder for a similar player who is a FA next year.

Hughes/Phelps/Nova for Trumbo would make sense as the Angels need pitching.Though I now expect Angels to pick up Edwin Jackson or even Sanchez.

Speaking of the devil. Sanchez signs with the Cubs for 5/75. Overpayed but this is the market.

Originally Posted by HornyPony Speaking of the devil. Sanchez signs with the Cubs for 5/75. Overpayed but this is the market.

Really surprised at that. No other team was willing to pay him that? Yes, it's an overpay, but he must be desperate to sign with the Cubs.

Originally Posted by tcrash247 Really surprised at that. No other team was willing to pay him that? Yes, it's an overpay, but he must be desperate to sign with the Cubs.

Who knows, maybe he wanted to play in Chicago? Hell, maybe other GMs did not offer him that much because of his low W total, haha.

I can't figure out the Cubs. They talk like they want to stink for the next few years so they can get picks and rid themselves of bad contracts, and then they sign Sanchez. Doesn't make any sense and seems counterproductive.

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