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I guess this was inevitable in Taxachusetts....

Originally Posted by jimijumper Link to story I guess this was inevitable in Taxachusetts....

Ironically enough, MA actually has some of the lowest taxes in the country unless we're talking tobacco. Then again, we still have until 11/1/13 to make all those sales tax free purchases. Because of this announcement, I'm joining the Tea Party.

There's been some talk, just a little so far, of the same in MD. Hopefully just stays talk.

Originally Posted by dohdough Ironically enough, MA actually has some of the lowest taxes in the country unless we're talking tobacco. Then again, we still have until 11/1/13 to make all those sales tax free purchases. Because of this announcement, I'm joining the Tea Party.

You're going to start seeing more tax hikes... I mean how else do you expect to fund free sex changes for state prisoners?

Originally Posted by GBAstar You're going to start seeing more tax hikes... I mean how else do you expect to fund free sex changes for state prisoners?

That's why I'm jumping on the Tea Party Express! November 1, 2013 is the day FREEDOM died.

Isn't this still illegal? Isn't the law that you have to have a company presence in the state in order to charge sale tax? If Amazon wants to give Mass some new jobs I'm all for it.

The thing is, I'll still order from them, they still have cheaper prices and I trust them. If I buy from BestBuy.com or Amazon it doesn't make a difference because I still don't go into a store.

Originally Posted by bigdaddy Isn't this still illegal? Isn't the law that you have to have a company presence in the state in order to charge sale tax? If Amazon wants to give Mass some new jobs I'm all for it. The thing is, I'll still order from them, they still have cheaper prices and I trust them. If I buy from BestBuy.com or Amazon it doesn't make a difference because I still don't go into a store.

You're supposed to pay in-state sales tax regardless of where you shop, so yes, it's legal. That's why there's a line item specifically on the MA state income tax form for it. All this does is close the loophole on the honor system for self-reporting when buying from Amazon.

Like you said, Amazon is still going to be cheaper in most cases anyways.

Yeah, no one fills that in, not even the lawmakers. I'm talking about this court case...

In Quill Corp. v. North Dakota, the Supreme Court ruled that a business must have a physical presence in a state for that state to require it to collect sales taxes. However, the court explicitly stated that Congress can overrule the decision through legislation.

Last I knew Congress has done nothing.

Yep, definitely legal.

The physical presence in a state is just one way states have passed laws to force online companies to collect the taxes for them. This is another way.

Taxes on online purchases have no impact on my shopping. I shop online for the convenience of not having to find time to fight traffic and get to the store, deal with people etc. I order mostly from Amazon as I've had great experience with them, have Prime for free two day shipping (and the streaming video and Kindle lending library) etc. I don't even really bother checking if they have the cheapest price anymore when it comes to most of the things I order from there (games, movies, books etc.).

Originally Posted by dmaul1114 Taxes on online purchases have no impact on my shopping. I shop online for the convenience of not having to find time to fight traffic and get to the store, deal with people etc. I order mostly from Amazon as I've had great experience with them, have Prime for free two day shipping (and the streaming video and Kindle lending library) etc. I don't even really bother checking if they have the cheapest price anymore when it comes to most of the things I order from there (games, movies, books etc.).

Yeah exactly. Are books going to be cheaper in B&N or Amazon? I mean the government is claiming it's to help local companies, it won't do sht for local companies and the know it. The state just wants more money to waste.

I will hopefully not be living in the state anyways.

It doesn't feel like Amazon has been that competitive price-wise as of late. Sometimes matching, but definitely not leading anymore.

Any possible online savings and shipping convenience will have to be weighed with post sale price adjustments and easier returns at local B+Ms when this kicks in.

Especially hate when I buy something on Amazon, and it's cheaper the next day (or sooner).

Fun related story:

Amazon started to collect tax in Texas earlier this year. Part of this included a deal between the state and Amazon where they will open a warehouse near San Antonio and create something like 2500 jobs. Texas is giving them a $200 million tax break for this.

Texas is paying roughly $80K for each of those jobs with that deal. Those jobs will be 25-30K/year at best, outside of a few higher director type jobs.

On the plus side, more one day shipping for me.

Originally Posted by bigdaddy Yeah exactly. Are books going to be cheaper in B&N or Amazon? I mean the government is claiming it's to help local companies, it won't do sht for local companies and the know it. The state just wants more money to waste. I will hopefully not be living in the state anyways.

Personally, I'm supportive of it. Being a professor, I see first hand how cuts in state spending are hurting things essential to our future like education (cuts in state scholarships, tuition hikes, larger classes, more classes taught by lesser qualified part timers rather than tenure track faculty etc.).

Given all that, states need an automated system for collecting sales tax for online purchases cause frankly even people like me who are supportive of it aren't going to hassle with tracking it and paying it ourselves each year.

But not a popular opinion no a site of broke ass losers who don't care about anything but saving as much money as they can when buying shit they don't need....

I like to think of dmaul as that professor that grabs a student's ringing phone and tells the caller "Your friend is busy ing up everything right now, can I take a message for him?"

I miss the days of going on amazon and buying something for $19.99 :(

If Massachusetts really wants more spending money, then they should've gotten those casinos built a long time ago. Gambling folks willingly hand over their cash and they've been happily doing so across the border.

Originally Posted by bigdaddy Yeah exactly. Are books going to be cheaper in B&N or Amazon? I mean the government is claiming it's to help local companies, it won't do sht for local companies and the know it. The state just wants more money to waste.

Uhhh...it's money that the state is already supposed to be getting to begin with.

I will hopefully not be living in the state anyways.

The grass is always greener...

I'd laugh my ass off if I saw that happen, Strell.

Originally Posted by Hibiwa If Massachusetts really wants more spending money, then they should've gotten those casinos built a long time ago. Gambling folks willingly hand over their cash and they've been happily doing so across the border.

Are you volunteering your backyard or are you willing to have one as your neighbor?

Typical city backyard isn't going to fit anything, but the few occasions I've gone to the CT casinos the surrounding areas didn't look any worse for wear.

Foxborough peeps were getting their panties in a bunch, the random Everett residents that were interviewed on the news seemed to be pretty happy about the possibility of having a casino in their backyard.