re: Length of game

I don't use it to judge the quality of a game but it does make a difference for me.

In my younger days I was all about the long games. These days when I have less time due to pesky real life and a huge backlog of games I really appreciate a short but well put together game. I like feeling like I can complete something from start to finish and have a full experience without it taking months and months and meanwhile I feel guilty for spending so much time on one game while others go unplayed.

Now I don't know that a short game is worth $60 but look where we are. It's not like most of us are paying $60 for games anyway.

Originally Posted by Frithsblessing I can always tell the dailies are underwhelming when I check in after an hour and there are only a couple new pages.

And 95% of it is 'Nothing for me' 'No deals' 'This sucks' 'This is the worst sale EVER' 'I spent more money at (insert other DD store here)' etc etc

Back to playing KOA: R on Origin.

I'm still waiting for Rhode Island to get their shit together.

Originally Posted by Blade I'm trying to decide whether or not the Bethesda bundle warrants more time and devotion than the LucasArts Adventure Pack or the Family Gaming Pack would; the latter collection would be a better buy if I didn't already own Puzzle Quest, realistically the best game in the bundle. At $5 apiece, if I only got one, LucasArts would obviously be the better choice...but they seem superfluous now that I have Hunted, DOOM 3, and Dishonored. Decisions...

Mission Runway or Skyrim? Man, that's a tough call.

Hoping RPG Maker goes up on sale again. Missed out on flash sale because of work ._.

Originally Posted by The End By the way, does anybody here own a Remedy game? Can you check and see if the loyalty discount stacks with the sale price on Alan Wake?

Sadly no :(

Originally Posted by BridgetFisher I have skyrim it bores me and is so pathetic compared to the rest of the series I mean you cant even equip pants and stuff or move things easily, what junk. Id rather be dressin up Stacy Truman and getting my groove on with Mission Runway anyday over Skyrim.

That just totally made my morning.

Though I am sure with enough mods you could always dress up a Skyrim character to look like a tragic runway trainwreck like Stacy Truman.

Buy Alan Wake if you haven't. I've played through it several times on Xbox 360, it's definitely my favorite game of this generation, that's not a stretch. I'm considering getting it on Steam just to play through it again and enjoy the feeling of getting achievements for it again.

Originally Posted by BridgetFisher I have skyrim it bores me and is so pathetic compared to the rest of the series I mean you cant even equip pants and stuff or move things easily, what junk. Id rather be dressin up Stacy Truman and getting my groove on with Mission Runway anyday over Skyrim.

... Is there a "slow clap" smiley I could use instead?

Originally Posted by Motoki Mission Runway or Skyrim? Man, that's a tough call.

The thing is, I already played Skyrim to death. To add in on your conversation a few pages ago, Steam Workshop does wonders for the game with its automatic updating. Never installed any user-created game content, though; the 40-some-odd environment enhancers and high-resolution textures were enough for me. Maybe some day.

Also, lol @ BridgetFisher

Originally Posted by Frithsblessing I can always tell the dailies are underwhelming when I check in after an hour and there are only a couple new pages. Back to playing KOA: R on Origin.

Origin on the Steam thread. /rage ^_~

Originally Posted by Motoki re: Length of game I don't use it to judge the quality of a game but it does make a difference for me. And 95% of it is 'Nothing for me' 'No deals' 'This sucks' 'This is the worst sale EVER' 'I spent more money at (insert other DD store here)' etc etc Mission Runway or Skyrim? Man, that's a tough call.

For the big long games (e.g. GTA4), I really need to be at a point where I think I'll have time to finish in reasonable Calendar time.

I'm really surprised people still have any expectations/hopes for the Steam sale. That said, Tomorrow's the 25th which I always found to be a memorable day on the steam sale.

We need a mash-up. I need better fashion accessories in Skyrim. Mission Runway would benefit from the better photo-backdrops in Skyrim.

Originally Posted by asheskitty We need a mash-up. I need better fashion accessories in Skyrim. Mission Runway would benefit from the better photo-backdrops in Skyrim.

Or ENB series.

Seriously.

Lighting is everything. Fashion models of all people should know that.

I feel like I should just cave and buy COD 4. It's never going to drop below 50%.

you guys think Faster Than Light will be on sale?

Originally Posted by zico you guys think Faster Than Light will be on sale?

I hope so. It's at the top of my wishlist.

Originally Posted by Motoki I agree 100%. I would also add that the Steam Workshop is still relatively new and is somewhat of a work in progress. There already have been a number of changes (for the better imho) since its inception and if modders are finding parts of it they don't like I think they should try and share that feedback with Valve rather than taking their toys to another sandbox. Then again there are always going to be some modders who tend towards divaism. There has been so much drama in the ES modding community over the years it is not even funny.

The Workshop is great for TF2 or KF, but sorry, it is ass for Skyrim. So many mods for Skyrim have dependencies, or order loading issues, or compatibility issues with other mods. The Workshop does nothing to help with this. All it provides is "set it and forget" downloading. NMM does that plus a whole lot more. And it is laughable that you think that modders are taking their mods to another sandbox. You do realize that NMM has been around for a while and the Nexus site has been hosting mods for eons. It is really Steam that is the one that should be doing its best to cater to quality modders, because its product is vastly inferior and doesn't have the lengthy history. Lastly, if a user is too stupid to download, install, and use NMM then they should probably just throw their PC out the window and stick to a dumbox360.

Originally Posted by travathian The Workshop is great for TF2 or KF, but sorry, it is ass for Skyrim. So many mods for Skyrim have dependencies, or order loading issues, or compatibility issues with other mods. The Workshop does nothing to help with this. All it provides is "set it and forget" downloading. NMM does that plus a whole lot more. And it is laughable that you think that modders are taking their mods to another sandbox. You do realize that NMM has been around for a while and the Nexus site has been hosting mods for eons. It is really Steam that is the one that should be doing its best to cater to quality modders, because its product is vastly inferior and doesn't have the lengthy history. Lastly, if a user is too stupid to download, install, and use NMM then they should probably just throw their PC out the window and stick to a dumbox360.

Thanks for your opinion.

I thought the Skyrim mods were pretty impressive compatibility wise ???

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Originally Posted by Syntax Error That's not entirely true. Tony has mentioned many times that he is negotiating a sale with a particular publisher and times that a publisher has backed out (Activision) or decided not to run a sale again (SE). Or that a sale was really popular so the publisher was excited to try a different bundle. They don't just buy a pile of keys at wholesale and sell them at a loss; they do much the same thing as Steam does in working out pricing with the publishers.

Ah ok, so then the publishers are taking losses for Steam keys.(?)

Still though, Amazon charges me tax whereas GMG and Steam do not so whenever they (Amazon) price match it's ultimately costing me more. They have to beat them enough to negate the tax before I'll bite.

Originally Posted by zico you guys think Faster Than Light will be on sale?

Yeah it should be. it was a daily deal not to long ago before the sale.

I have an idea. In the spirit of holiday avatars, for the new year everyone should make a Mission Runway avatar!

No...

Anybody here?


I'll show myself out...

Originally Posted by Neuro5i5 I have an idea. In the spirit of holiday avatars, for the new year everyone should make a Mission Runway avatar! No... Anybody here? I'll show myself out...

Buying it right now...

And according to my friends list, Motoki and Palinn already own it. I stuck it on my girlfriend's account.

Originally Posted by EliotAndrews I hate to be a complainer, but these Sonic deals are absolutely underwhelming.

Steam must be trying hard for Winter Fail because SEGA is normally on board with 75% of just about anything. 50% off is just... sad.

Funny enough I almost instinctively put some of those games in my cart and then I realized what I was doing. They went on the wishlist instead.

Originally Posted by Motoki I agree 100%. I would also add that the Steam Workshop is still relatively new and is somewhat of a work in progress. There already have been a number of changes (for the better imho) since its inception and if modders are finding parts of it they don't like I think they should try and share that feedback with Valve rather than taking their toys to another sandbox. Then again there are always going to be some modders who tend towards divaism. There has been so much drama in the ES modding community over the years it is not even funny.

While I don't have any knowledge of the inner workings of Steam Workshop, I have worked with modders (from a PR perspective) for the last 14 years. While most of them are positively starving to get word out on their hard work, there are a handful of them that are stubborn to the point of stupidity. I can absolutely see how some of them would cut off their own noses to spite their faces.