Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 If I'm right, everything else you do builds up the super move meter, right? Therefore, those other actions are pretty consequential.

Yeah, I think it's kind of a fun take on the brawl formula - all of your moves build meter, 3 tiers of meter total. Each tier has a higher chance of destruction than the previous (i.e. tier 1 - if aimed well you'll likely get one or two kills but it's easy for opponents to interrupt / block / dodge // tier 2 - almost certainly will get at least one or two kills // tier 3 - with most characters you'll get at least 3 kills with no chance for opponents to avoid; sometimes 5+ with respawn timing).

So building meter with normal moves is pretty much the entire game and figuring out the most efficient and effective way to build that meter (combos or comboesque single moves I reckon) is the key to plowing through opponents. Each of the playable characters are different enough (especially in the special move category) that odds are pretty good you'll find a good fit to your play style.

Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 If I'm right, everything else you do builds up the super move meter, right? Therefore, those other actions are pretty consequential.

It does build up the meter but it's got no effect other than setting up 1 move every few mins. I found it VERY boring cause you almost always just spend forever mashing buttons for either a lvl 2 attack or a lvl 3 attack (depending on who you played as) and then set it off. Imagine if Smash Bros made it so only the glowing orb counted for points.

Originally Posted by kanamit Wow your reading comprehension sucks lol.

Explain it to me in smaller words so that I may understand. I've read your post three times now and that was most of what you were complaining about. Your other complaint is that the jump button is the same as the pick-up-items button, aka the action button. It's been a while since I've played the game but I'm sure that's true - and how is that a problem exactly? If you're looting corpses for items, everyone's already dead, so what if you accidentally jump?

Originally Posted by whitereflection Explain it to me in smaller words so that I may understand. I've read your post three times now and that was most of what you were complaining about. Your other complaint is that the jump button is the same as the pick-up-items button, aka the action button. It's been a while since I've played the game but I'm sure that's true - and how is that a problem exactly? If you're looting corpses for items, everyone's already dead, so what if you accidentally jump?

What do you need clarified? I think I said it all in the first line...the movement of your character is awful. I mentioned the jump thing not to make fun of the "animation" but that despite not wanting to jump often or even at all I somehow jumped awkwardly throughout the castle in the first part of the game.

No need to defend it, maybe its a fine game and I am not bashing the game as a whole. However, controlling your characters movement is awful and so bad that I wont be buying the game. Also once I acquired stamina and the ability to run outside the castle it got worse. I accidently ran off the cliff a few times, and running towards an enemy to fight them seemed harder than it should be. Just my honest experience with the game.

The game's not without its faults, but honestly, most Western RPGs' controls are terrible on console: Risen, Gothic, Two Worlds, The Witcher, Dragon Age. You just get used to it after a while. Having said that, you're getting a 40-60 hour game for $5. If you like RPGs - and this one is decent enough - how can you go wrong?

msuhitman- two worlds 2 character transfer

i just wanted to clarify that your character does transfer from the ps3 retail disc version to the digital version. it just doesn't transfer to the pirates dlc. they give you a level 45 or so character and let you respec them how you see fit, but yeah. didn't want you to think you have to start completely over. but i already platted the game so i was just gonna use that bad ass character in the dlc, but that wasnt the case.

Originally Posted by Velo214 msuhitman- two worlds 2 character transfer i just wanted to clarify that your character does transfer from the ps3 retail disc version to the digital version. it just doesn't transfer to the pirates dlc. they give you a level 45 or so character and let you respec them how you see fit, but yeah. didn't want you to think you have to start completely over. but i already platted the game so i was just gonna use that bad ass character in the dlc, but that wasnt the case.

Still I would rather play that style game on the 360 since the character doesn't transfer over from the main game to DLC, but I just sold some stuff to a friend so I will be upgrading my PS3 HDD for the 2nd time soon.

Originally Posted by mpaullin Best Buy will have PS All Stars on sale for $39.99 next week.

i've been waiting on a deal for a physical copy of this. is this (the sale) fact or just speculation? thanks!

Re: SSIV: Arcade Edition, if you're a PS+ member and already have the SSIV disc, can you download the Arcade Edition DLC for free, or do you still have to download the entire 18GB game? Thanks.

I would also appreciate some input on the value of a PS+ subscription. To me, it seems like a great deal, and I'm seriously thinking about getting an annual sub.

Originally Posted by malistrais i've been waiting on a deal for a physical copy of this. is this (the sale) fact or just speculation? thanks!

Got my info from this thread.

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=335232

I've never seen the early postings of the ad be wrong, but I'm reluctant to call it fact without ad scans or a link. Lets say 99% sure its true?

Originally Posted by RCS0926 I would also appreciate some input on the value of a PS+ subscription. To me, it seems like a great deal, and I'm seriously thinking about getting an annual sub.

Information is abundant and readily available, in fact, there is probably too much of it. Your choice will likely come down to whether or not you fall into the the following camps, plus your own personal tastes.

IF you / (then)

1) like the free games and don't care that you don't own them if your sub expires (get +)
2) you insist the free games are 'rentals' and people who like them are fools (don't get +)
3) get complete fulfillment just from the automated cloud saves and overnight auto updates (get +)
4) you buy a lot of games soon after they are released and will be greatly annoyed if they become free on Plus (don't get +)
5) are annoyed that the EU version of plus gets better free games (don't get US+, maybe sign up for EU+)

Myself, I am seriously considering switching to EU+.

Originally Posted by GT Information is abundant and readily available, in fact, there is probably too much of it. Your choice will likely come down to whether or not you fall into the the following camps, plus your own personal tastes. IF you / (then) 1) like the free games and don't care that you don't own them if your sub expires (get +) 2) you insist the free games are 'rentals' and people who like them are fools (don't get +) 3) get complete fulfillment just from the automated cloud saves and overnight auto updates (get +) 4) you buy a lot of games soon after they are released and will be greatly annoyed if they become free on Plus (don't get +) 5) are annoyed that the EU version of plus gets better free games (don't get US+, maybe sign up for EU+) Myself, I am seriously considering switching to EU+.

Thanks for your input. I don't think any of the cons you mentioned are enough to dissuade me from getting PS+.

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Originally Posted by RCS0926 I would also appreciate some input on the value of a PS+ subscription. To me, it seems like a great deal, and I'm seriously thinking about getting an annual sub.

It's pretty much the best $50 you can spend in a year on games.

Originally Posted by GT 5) are annoyed that the EU version of plus gets better free games (don't get US+, maybe sign up for EU+) Myself, I am seriously considering switching to EU+.

This is subjective, and I honestly like the U.S. PS+'s offerings more than Europe's, despite most people here seeming to feel otherwise. Take a look at the game lists before making a decision (Tylerh compiled a comparison list on his CAG blog a couple of months ago).

excellent - thanks!

Originally Posted by mpaullin Got my info from this thread. http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=335232 I've never seen the early postings of the ad be wrong, but I'm reluctant to call it fact without ad scans or a link. Lets say 99% sure its true?

One more thing, if you have both a Vita and a PS3, you should probably get Plus. I think if you own both systems, the value is ovewhelmingly a no-brainer. I'm sure there are exceptions and those exceptions will post if they read this.

Originally Posted by Josh1billion Quote: Originally Posted by GT View Post 5) are annoyed that the EU version of plus gets better free games (don't get US+, maybe sign up for EU+) Myself, I am seriously considering switching to EU+. This is subjective, and I honestly like the U.S. PS+'s offerings more than Europe's, despite most people here seeming to feel otherwise. Take a look at the game lists before making a decision (Tylerh compiled a comparison list on his CAG blog a couple of months ago).

Actually, they are ALL subjective.

Originally Posted by GT One more thing, if you have both a Vita and a PS3, you should probably get Plus. I think if you own both systems, the value is ovewhelmingly a no-brainer. I'm sure there are exceptions and those exceptions will post if they read this.

I plan on getting a Vita eventually. I'll just get the free Vita games as they become available so that I have a nice backlog by the time I get the Vita.

Originally Posted by RCS0926 I would also appreciate some input on the value of a PS+ subscription. To me, it seems like a great deal, and I'm seriously thinking about getting an annual sub.

Definitely get it. Like Josh said, here's my CAG Blog where I compare the US and EU PS+ games since June 2012. Even better, Frisky put together a list of all the free PS+ games in the US since the program began over 2 years ago (it's actually post #7 in this thread). Start from the bottom of that list and work your way up, because PS+ has really evolved since it began, and in my opinion has become much better.

Also, keep in mind that both these resources only detail the free games the program offers, and doesn't even take into account the added discounts that we get, which are usually substantial.

Originally Posted by tylerh1701 Definitely get it. Like Josh said, here's my CAG Blog where I compare the US and EU PS+ games since June 2012. Even better, Frisky put together a list of all the free PS+ games in the US since the program began over 2 years ago (it's actually post #7 in this thread). Start from the bottom of that list and work your way up, because PS+ has really evolved since it began, and in my opinion has become much better. Also, keep in mind that both these resources only detail the free games the program offers, and doesn't even take into account the added discounts that we get, which are usually substantial.

Good stuff. I actually do like that EU list better. I just Googled how to create an EU PSN account, but can I use a PS+ redemption code that I buy in the US (i.e. Gamestop or Amazon) to subscribe to the EU PS+?