Originally Posted by pitfallharry219 Where did DVO acquire all this shit-talking ability from? It surely ain't coming from the playoff success he's had in this league. Also, that gingerbread man is creepy as .

last season i played with a team that didnt have the weapons i need to be successful this year is another story. i add 4 WRs to go along with aj green and my defense was much of an issue last year it was mainly the fact that i couldnt ever get much going on offense. we will just see what happens when we play. i havent changed any of my defense from last year my offense well its a whole new squad so if i get the same defense results this year as last year im confident that i can make the playoffs

So, a great game between N8 and I, I lost 13-10, but I have a pretty big beef with the league rules.

I know I'm the new guy and won't get any support on this, but I wanted to bring up the "Going for it on 4th" rules. In GameStyle, league rules say "play it like you're an NFL coach". Well, tied at 10 in the middle of the 3rd quarter, I hit a guy for a few yeards bringing up 4th and inches. N8 had just scored a TD to tie it, in pretty easy fashion, to start the half, and I figured he had found his groove and was gonna start shooting it out in the 2nd half. So I decided rather than punt the ball and probably go down 7 after his next drive, I'd try for the inch to gain some momentum back. Figured, if I miss, he'll have a better opprotunity to score, but he probably will anyway with the drive he had just set up with Chris Johnson. But then I am told I can't go for it, only because I'm in my own zone.

Is that really the only reason for the rule? I could find numurous occasions in the NFL where coaches have gone for it on 4th in their own zone. Is that all I have to do to meet the "requirements" of the league rule?

Again, I don't expect any support on my complaining, and I'm sure if I went back through the 300 pages of the thread, I'd find other conversations about it. But if that's the way the league works, I might not be the best fit.

Titans - 13
Dolphins - 10

The Titans escape South Beach with a narrow victory. Something just felt off with my team in this game. I feel like I wasn't used to playing with my starters, lol. Locker was overthrowing receivers. Receivers were dropping balls. CJ seemed like he was JUST short of breaking several runs. I figured out pretty quickly that if I gave Wpark time to throw, his two huge FA WR acquisitions would make me pay. I had to start sending pressure, and fortunately, I was able to get to Tannehill a few times.

We had one little hiccup in the 3rd quarter. On a 3rd and 5, Miami ran a draw, and one of my guys stopped it just short of the 1st down. Facing 4th and inches at his own 30 yard line, in a 10-10 game, Wpark chose a play that looked like a QB sneak. I paused the game to let him know that in that situation, going for it really isn't the right call. He didn't seem to have a problem with it, and punted the ball.

I had a 4th and 1 on the next drive at around the Miami 21. I thought about going for it, myself, but again, considered the situation, and the opportunity to take the lead with a field goal seemed like the right call. That ended up being the last score of the game. This game was mostly a defensive struggle, with only one turnover (Locker threw an INT). Miami fumbled twice but recovered both times. GG, Wpark. Definitely a close one.

Titans
Jake Locker - 7-14, 157 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT
Chris Johnson - 13 att, 85 yds, 1 TD
Jared Cook Jr - 2 rec, 68 yds
Kendall Wright - 2 rec, 27 yds
Derrick Morgan - 4 tackles, 3 sacks
Will Witherspoon - 4 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF
Pat Sims - 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF

Dolphins
Ryan Tannehill - 8-13, 146 yds, 1 TD
Jwan Gibson - 10 att, 29 yds, 1 rec, 20 yds
Jeremy Shockey - 2 rec, 30 yds
Greg Jennings - 2 rec, 56 yds, 1 TD
Mike Wallace - 2 rec, 26 yds
Richard Marshall - 5 tackles, 1 INT

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu Titans - 13 Dolphins - 10 The Titans escape South Beach with a narrow victory. Something just felt off with my team in this game. I feel like I wasn't used to playing with my starters, lol. Locker was overthrowing receivers. Receivers were dropping balls. CJ seemed like he was JUST short of breaking several runs. I figured out pretty quickly that if I gave Wpark time to throw, his two huge FA WR acquisitions would make me pay. I had to start sending pressure, and fortunately, I was able to get to Tannehill a few times. We had one little hiccup in the 3rd quarter. On a 3rd and 5, Miami ran a draw, and one of my guys stopped it just short of the 1st down. Facing 4th and inches at his own 30 yard line, in a 10-10 game, Wpark chose a play that looked like a QB sneak. I paused the game to let him know that in that situation, going for it really isn't the right call. He didn't seem to have a problem with it, and punted the ball. I had a 4th and 1 on the next drive at around the Miami 21. I thought about going for it, myself, but again, considered the situation, and the opportunity to take the lead with a field goal seemed like the right call. That ended up being the last score of the game. This game was mostly a defensive struggle, with only one turnover (Locker threw an INT). Miami fumbled twice but recovered both times. GG, Wpark. Definitely a close one. Titans Jake Locker - 7-14, 157 yds, 0 TDs, 1 INT Chris Johnson - 13 att, 85 yds, 1 TD Jared Cook Jr - 2 rec, 68 yds Kendall Wright - 2 rec, 27 yds Derrick Morgan - 4 tackles, 3 sacks Will Witherspoon - 4 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 FF Pat Sims - 2 tackles, 1 sack, 1 FF Dolphins Ryan Tannehill - 8-13, 146 yds, 1 TD Jwan Gibson - 10 att, 29 yds, 1 rec, 20 yds Jeremy Shockey - 2 rec, 30 yds Greg Jennings - 2 rec, 56 yds, 1 TD Mike Wallace - 2 rec, 26 yds Richard Marshall - 5 tackles, 1 INT

Yeah man, I'm upset about it, but it obviously wasn't the turning point of the game. I had other chances. Like I said in my Xbox message, it is what it is. I understand the rules are here to stop any over aggressive behavior, just felt like it could have gone either way. Good game in any case, made me feel like I can at least run with the league and won't get my ass destroyed every game.

Originally Posted by Wpark83 So, a great game between N8 and I, I lost 13-10, but I have a pretty big beef with the league rules. I know I'm the new guy and won't get any support on this, but I wanted to bring up the "Going for it on 4th" rules. In GameStyle, league rules say "play it like you're an NFL coach". Well, tied at 10 in the middle of the 3rd quarter, I hit a guy for a few yeards bringing up 4th and inches. N8 had just scored a TD to tie it, in pretty easy fashion, to start the half, and I figured he had found his groove and was gonna start shooting it out in the 2nd half. So I decided rather than punt the ball and probably go down 7 after his next drive, I'd try for the inch to gain some momentum back. Figured, if I miss, he'll have a better opprotunity to score, but he probably will anyway with the drive he had just set up with Chris Johnson. But then I am told I can't go for it, only because I'm in my own zone. Is that really the only reason for the rule? I could find numurous occasions in the NFL where coaches have gone for it on 4th in their own zone. Is that all I have to do to meet the "requirements" of the league rule? Again, I don't expect any support on my complaining, and I'm sure if I went back through the 300 pages of the thread, I'd find other conversations about it. But if that's the way the league works, I might not be the best fit.

I hear what you're saying, but I don't think any coach would go for it on 4th down at their own 30 in a tie game in the 3rd quarter. To me, that's a call you make because it's Madden and QB sneaks are somewhat easy...not because it's football. Like I said, I had a 4th and 1 at YOUR 20 after that, and I could have decided to go for blood, and try to get the 7 point lead (which no one could deny wouldn't be tempting). But to me, the right football call was to take the 3 points and trust my defense considering it was a defensive battle and points were at a bit of a premium. Had you forced a 3 and out after that punt, I doubt you'd feel the same way.

God I suck at this game. Doesn't help when Madden decides to screw me left and right.

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Originally Posted by n8rockerasu I hear what you're saying, but I don't think any coach would go for it on 4th down at their own 30 in a tie game in the 3rd quarter. To me, that's a call you make because it's Madden and QB sneaks are somewhat easy...not because it's football. Like I said, I had a 4th and 1 at YOUR 20 after that, and I could have decided to go for blood, and try to get the 7 point lead (which no one could deny wouldn't be tempting). But to me, the right football call was to take the 3 points and trust my defense considering it was a defensive battle and points were at a bit of a premium. Had you forced a 3 and out after that punt, I doubt you'd feel the same way.

Just my own $.02 on this:

I agree that in the 3rd quarter, no NFL coach would go for it there in a tie game at their own 30. But, we are playing with 5 minute quarter lengths so the middle of the 3rd quarter would mean theres about 7-8 minutes of actual game time left...I could see a couple coaches going for it on a 4th and inches at that point. It certainly wouldnt be a popular call and outside of Belichick it would be pretty rare to see a coach actually go for it, but I do think several coaches would at least bring the guys on the field and try to draw the defense offsides. Not really taking sides here since I see it both ways, but I do understand why you'd at least bring the offense on the field on a 4th and inches there.

Originally Posted by GamerDude316 Just my own $.02 on this: I agree that in the 3rd quarter, no NFL coach would go for it there in a tie game at their own 30. But, we are playing with 5 minute quarter lengths so the middle of the 3rd quarter would mean theres about 7-8 minutes of actual game time left...I could see a couple coaches going for it on a 4th and inches at that point. It certainly wouldnt be a popular call and outside of Belichick it would be pretty rare to see a coach actually go for it, but I do think several coaches would at least bring the guys on the field and try to draw the defense offsides. Not really taking sides here since I see it both ways, but I do understand why you'd at least bring the offense on the field on a 4th and inches there.

That's pretty much my mentality at the time. It's cool though. I stupidly used a time out to go back and select punt when i should have just taken the Delay of Game, looking back that was obviously my fault. But again, it didn't take away from the competitiveness of the game...and with the past N8 and I have in these leagues, I'm quite happy that we played what I felt was a pretty gentlemanly game.

Got disconnected with kasters dad up 20-0 with about to minutes left in the 3rd. We are replaying the game now.

Ryan Fitzpatrick is on the trading block. If anybody would be intrested pm me.

Originally Posted by jza1218 God I suck at this game. Doesn't help when Madden decides to screw me left and right.

You got screwed pretty badly--two fumbles lost and some lucky INTs on my part. My defense frequently plays better than their stats--I had three straight shutouts last year at one point. And it's not my skill for sure, I barely make any adjustments.

Seahawks defeat Giants 31-0. 2 INT and two fumble recoveries greatly affect the outcome of this game, as I'd have to guess at least 17 of the points (maybe 24) came off of these turnovers, including the first two drives starting inside the 40. Lynch with 98 yds on the ground and newly-acquired Aaron Rodgers with 3 TDs along with a paltry 81 yards, and one ugly pick.

Lions/Raiders goes down tomorrow at 5 central.

Also I would have gone for it on fourth and inches.

Got kicked again, each time it said due to excessive grieving on his part was up 13-0 a min or two left in the first half. I got another game to play for the other league, I can try this later.

Remaining games:

Jets vs Bills
Chargers vs Broncos
Packers vs Bears
Vikings vs Panthers
Cardinals vs Cowboys
49ers vs Steelers (having connection issues)
Lions vs Raiders (tomorrow 5 PM CST)

Originally Posted by GamerDude316 Just my own $.02 on this: I agree that in the 3rd quarter, no NFL coach would go for it there in a tie game at their own 30. But, we are playing with 5 minute quarter lengths so the middle of the 3rd quarter would mean theres about 7-8 minutes of actual game time left...I could see a couple coaches going for it on a 4th and inches at that point. It certainly wouldnt be a popular call and outside of Belichick it would be pretty rare to see a coach actually go for it, but I do think several coaches would at least bring the guys on the field and try to draw the defense offsides. Not really taking sides here since I see it both ways, but I do understand why you'd at least bring the offense on the field on a 4th and inches there.

Considering the stats and points that people put up in this game, using the "not enough time" argument doesn't really seem realistic to me. You've got people in the other league who will argue that a 21 point lead with 3 minutes left in the game isn't "safe" and that's why it's ok to keep passing the ball. It can't work both ways.

Originally Posted by GamerDude316 Remaining games: Jets vs Bills Chargers vs Broncos Packers vs Bears Vikings vs Panthers Cardinals vs Cowboys 49ers vs Steelers (having connection issues) Lions vs Raiders (tomorrow 5 PM CST)

Stealing my job, eh?

I will play the CPU Chargers tomorrow.

Originally Posted by Dark Rider Stealing my job, eh? I will play the CPU Chargers tomorrow.

I was trying to find my week 2 opponent and noticed it hadnt been done yet so I figured I would since I was bored

Of course, I have the CPU Panthers, ugh. that means it'll be week 3 before I even get a human opponent!

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu Considering the stats and points that people put up in this game, using the "not enough time" argument doesn't really seem realistic to me. You've got people in the other league who will argue that a 21 point lead with 3 minutes left in the game isn't "safe" and that's why it's ok to keep passing the ball. It can't work both ways.

just so it is clear my memory is quiet shit lol. but anyways if u have a 21 point lead of less in the 4th is it ok to still pass for short yard gains as long as ur not going deep and for the endzone. unless of course the only person that is open is the deep guy. in that case u throw to him and dive. i guess my main question is when is it at the point where ur being a dick for passing. it makes it easy for teams to stop u when they know u have to run so ur not considered a dick.

also n8 on the 3rd i will be good to play pretty much any point that day im wide open to whenever

Originally Posted by Blade3D Got kicked again, each time it said due to excessive grieving on his part was up 13-0 a min or two left in the first half. I got another game to play for the other league, I can try this later.

Yeah, both games were laggy. When I got punted, it said removed due to network issues both times. No clue, was doing nothing unusual. My son has no issues with his online games (Halo, Transformers, Minecraft, etc.). Also, Kaster and I played three games online over the past few days with no issues and no significant lag.

Blade was dominating me 20-0 in the first game and he was up 13-0 midway through 2nd qtr. in second. Of course he neglected to mention that I had just intercepted him and taken it back to his one yd line at the moment I got kicked.

I am available to try again tomorrow evening. After 9:30 ET is preferred.