Originally Posted by aShufflinZombie What's the CAG opinion of Painkiller?

I've played some of Painkiller: Black and it's a pretty fun and mindless shooter. Nice for when I just feel like shooting hundreds of enemies on the screen all at once. Pretty fast paced too, so it's a pretty good adrenaline rush most of the time. The bosses usually add a strategic element, so it's not completely faceroll easy. Only problem is that I tend to only play one level at a time since it doesn't offer much else in the way of things to do.

Grabbed Payday + DLC. \o/

Originally Posted by Drizzt I've played some of Painkiller: Black and it's a pretty fun and mindless shooter. Nice for when I just feel like shooting hundreds of enemies on the screen all at once. Pretty fast paced too, so it's a pretty good adrenaline rush most of the time. The bosses usually add a strategic element, so it's not completely faceroll easy. Only problem is that I tend to only play one level at a time since it doesn't offer much else in the way of things to do.

Like Left for Dead?

Originally Posted by zillionandnine That's weird. I haven't played Bioshock in a while, but I don't remember having that issue. I'm tempted to install it again to see, ha. But I do love it when games include subtitles for ambient noises (Valve does this extensively) because that gives me an idea of the atmosphere I'm supposed to ... well, I guess use my imagination for. Since my ears can't help create that atmosphere for me, my mind has to. Same deal with horror flicks, so many of those are based on creepy noises and whatnot. For example, Paranormal Activity... without subtitles on for both dialogue and ambient noise, I'd be missing a lot.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Playing Portal 2 with full captioning includes a crazy amount of detail. I can imagine that would be a really nice feature for deaf people.

The thing is, I had subtitles turned on in Bioshock (since I always have subtitles turned on). But at the part (minor spoilers ahead) where there was a splicer female cooing and crying and generally rambling insanely to her "baby" in a stroller , I realized that subtitles weren't the way to go in this game. Why? Because the splicer's long, rambling lines were immediately laid out in subtitles. When the splicer was speaking in slow, broken, crazy sentences, the subtitles had the entire 3-4 sentence phrase all typed out on the screen as soon as the splicer spoke her first word.

All in all, I guess it just ruined the mood for me. Didn't seem creepy at all, and it didn't make me listen, which I'd imagine a creepy, ambient game like Bioshock wants you to do. If you're deaf though, I guess there's not much way around that though, since you couldn't see the splicers lips moving or anything of the sort (she was rather far away, around a corner). Bioshock has a habit of making splicer talk audible from a REALLY long way away, so it's rather creepy when you have no idea how close or far you are. I'm not sure how that translates into subtitles though.

Originally Posted by tham1988 wait wait wait i just got out of work and there are games i want on sale? sniper elite franchise painkiller hell and damnation (or collection) tomb raider series the longest journey and dreamfall what should i get?

The Tomb Raider pack and The Longest Journey/Dreamfall packs are very good deals, I'd skip painkiller, and not sure about sniper elite.

Never played a Total War game should I just start with Shogun 2? Going to give the TF2 helms to my brother since I don't play it. lol

Come home from a 16 hr day at work... it's like I never left. Nothing for me today apparently.

Originally Posted by sunghost The Tomb Raider pack and The Longest Journey/Dreamfall packs are very good deals, I'd skip painkiller, and not sure about sniper elite.

thank you
i think that is what i decided
forgot about mass effect collection though
might have to get that too
doubt the steam version will ever be less than $10 for both

Originally Posted by aShufflinZombie Like Left for Dead?

Painkiller: Black is best compared to say them old-school shooters.

Think like say Serious Sam games and many of the older type of shooters w/ tossing tons of enemies at you at an insanely fast-pace; and you have huge bosses to battle.

I was very much enjoying Sniper Elite V2 until I changed my video cards. With my AMD 7xxx series card the game goes into a hard lock at random necessitating hitting the power button to restart it. Looking around on the web, I'm not unique in this and no one has offered any good ideas on how to prevent it.

Was fun on my 9800 GTX+ though while it lasted.

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Originally Posted by zillionandnine No problem. I'm always willing to talk about games from a deaf player's perspective but I get the feeling that probably not too many people here are too interested in that Do let me know if any of you want input on anything though! In that vein, I'm annoyed that Assassin's Creed doesn't have subtitles. It just got pushed further back down my backlog because of that :P

Which AC? I think I played AC2 with Itallian language (and English subtitles), so my fuzzy recollection says that at least for the cutscenes there should be subtitles. I have AC1, 2, B, & R installed (and completed the latter three), I'd be happy to check.

Originally Posted by Motoki Yeah me too. I always play with the subs on. Sometimes their are funky accents or whatever or I just don't catch what someone is saying and even beyond that I like like having the subs up there to read. And yes also interested in a deaf player's perspective on games here too. I actually think a blog about it would be a good idea. I'd read it.

I usually turn them on, for odd accents, and audio interruptions (phone rings, fleshbag starts talking to me, power tools, howling from the basement).

I always turn on subtitles now that I have a child. Since all toys seem to have some sort of annoying audio I can never hear the tv without pumping up the volume to room rumbling levels. Of course that doesn't sit well with my wife and probably isn't good for my son's delicate ears. Couple that with whisper quiet levels I have to play games at when he is sleeping and subtitleses are a must.

I know Assassin's Creed 3 had subtitles, but I played all the rest before my son was born, so I can't speak to those.

Another issue I sometimes have is inadequate brightness adjusters in game to lighten things up when playing on my tv. I hate changing the brightness on the tv back and forth, but some games force it. The Walking Dead was pretty bad. The scale from 1-10 provided little difference and some dark areas I could literally see nothing.

Ps: by "literally" I mean literally, not figuratively like all the dumb kids use it now.

Originally Posted by sunghost The Tomb Raider pack and The Longest Journey/Dreamfall packs are very good deals, I'd skip painkiller, and not sure about sniper elite.

That Tomb Raider pack is a good deal for someone who doesn't have any of the TR games but as someone who has been around a bit and got the newer games when that was all that was on Steam I'm a little irked that buying all the newly released classic TR games costs just as much as getting the pack with all of them including the 3 I already own.

Not like I'll probably ever play 1990s DOS Tomb Raiders but still!

Originally Posted by Preedatore Ps: by "literally" I mean literally, not figuratively like all the dumb kids use it now.

That must be the Gamersgate definite of literally.

Well when we said literally, we didn't literally mean literally...

Guess I'm in the minority? I almost always choose to play with subs off. My ADD and mild dyslexia make it hard for me to read at a normal game's pace. Luckily I have fairly good hearing which is surprising given the volume levels I used to (and still kinda) listen to music at.

Originally Posted by asheskitty Which AC? I think I played AC2 with Itallian language (and English subtitles), so my fuzzy recollection says that at least for the cutscenes there should be subtitles. I have AC1, 2, B, & R installed (and completed the latter three), I'd be happy to check.

The first one! Although I guess I shouldn't be too bothered since it seems most people think it's ok to skip right to 2. *shrug*

Originally Posted by Neuro5i5 Guess I'm in the minority? I almost always choose to play with subs off. My ADD and mild dyslexia make it hard for me to read at a normal game's pace. Luckily I have fairly good hearing which is surprising given the volume levels I used to (and still kinda) listen to music at.

I used to but I found I miss so much when I don't have subs on. Also, it keeps me watching the screen during cut-scenes. I used to space out a lot (I'd always miss quick time events....)

Also, I'm so close to buying torchlight 2 but I already have diablo 3 to "finish". So for people who've played both how does torchlight 2 compare to D3? or Torchlight 1?

How exactly does Payday work if you're playing single player? Are you pulling off the heist yourself? Or are there other characters along with you that are bots?

Originally Posted by The End How exactly does Payday work if you're playing single player? Are you pulling off the heist yourself? Or are there other characters along with you that are bots?

Bots. Kinda dumb ones at that.

Originally Posted by Detruire Bots. Kinda dumb ones at that.

Some of the worst AI bots I've seen. They're Lost Planet 2 bad...

I didn't want Payday and kept avoiding it over the 800 different sales that it has been on. Then everyone around CAG started getting it and peer pressuring me but I still resisted!

Then someone gifted it to me and I was like aaww dammit.

Payback for all the Coconut Queens and Doom Railses, no doubt.