Originally Posted by bnh From Mass Effect Trilogy product description. Is it true? Im considering on buying it. Does it worth for my $25?

Depends on how you play, if you just do the storyline and no side missions or anything, I don't think it would be quite 75 hours.

Originally Posted by jkimrey There's no way to get ME 3 on Steam, right?

Blame EA for making their new games Origin exclusive. Just add a non-steam game shortcut to your Steam and it will give you the Steam overlay

Originally Posted by bnh From Mass Effect Trilogy product description. Is it true? Im considering on buying it. Does it worth for my $25?

Each game for me was around 30 hour or so or more for me.
{shrug}

Originally Posted by bnh From Mass Effect Trilogy product description. Is it true? Im considering on buying it. Does it worth for my $25?

mass effect trilogy is one of the best gaming experiences ive had over the past 20 years, if you like sci fi, and role play shooters.

it may end up being cheaper, ive seen both one and 2 go on sale for $5 on steam, and part 3 has been under $10 numerous times. still not a bad buy for that 3 pack@ 25

I've never played 3 but even ME fans say to avoid it. I thought ME 1 was one of the promising new RPGs when it came out on 360, and I thought ME2 was pretty mediocre since it took out tons of rpg elements and was basically a cover shooter, and even the story was scaled back from an interesting space opera to whatever you would call the ME2 story

I regret missing out on the ME1 deal on steam would love to replay it on pc

Originally Posted by Killbomb The worst part about dying in Dark Souls to me is trudging back through enemies you've already beaten to try to get back to a boss. Usually there's somewhat of a shortcut but it can still be a pain.

That's the point - you're NOT supposed to make "mistakes." The penalty for dying is enemies respawn in the entire area.

On the flip side - if you die and lose your Old Souls; get kicked back to last Bonfire (checkpoint); hack off more enemies and get their New Souls; make your way back to where you last died and get your Old Souls back; you'll have your Old Souls + New Souls. It'll be MUCH easier to level-up for battles - and you can actually die purposely if you're secrewed (i.e. No Flasks; don't have the item to send you back to last Bonfire) as a strategy just to actually grind more.

Also, if you play the game "blind" (no wiki or guide) it can become very frustrating since you can easily waste souls on useless stats and some key items are very difficult to find on your own. For example, there is no way to know which weapon to level up to use a Boss soul without checking a guide or wasting materials. I do love the game and I'm not saying they should hand us everything on a platter in DS2 but a little more clarification/direction regarding certain game mechanics would be appreciated.

There's patterns to beating most bosses. They might take numerous deaths to figure out, but it is doable.

Such as, with the Capra Demon...
...Though, the Capra Demon is HELL to get down right, b/c of how that battle begins and the onsalught of dogs and Capra rushing you out the gate can be brutal, if you don't time things right.
1. Since you're being ambushed - RUN and get up to the stairs; then get to the ledge.
2. Battle the dogs while up there (cornering yourself, so they'll come at you one-by-one); get them out the way.
3. Try NOT to take Capra head on. Throw things at him while on the ledge (firebombs, poison knives, etc) - until he comes up those stairs.
4. When he comes up those stairs, drop down below; wait for him to drop down behind you; attack him once; run back up the stairs to ledge; go back to Step 3.
5. If he is ever beneath you do this step - plunging attack! Those do MASSIVE damage. Then run back up the stairs to the ledge; go back to Step 3.
6. He should be dead, if you hit this step 6. Congrats.

I have a question if I get FIFA13 would I be able to play with Xbox 360 players since its both run by windows live? Could you guys pm me the answer because I will be at work until 3pm and I know that I won't find my post later.

Thanks

Originally Posted by Fluxy I have a question if I get FIFA13 would I be able to play with Xbox 360 players since its both run by windows live? Could you guys pm me the answer because I will be at work until 3pm and I know that I won't find my post later. Thanks

FIFA 13 PC doesn't use G4WL.
FIFA 13 PC uses ORIGIN (EA's service).

Originally Posted by bnh From Mass Effect Trilogy product description. Is it true? Im considering on buying it. Does it worth for my $25?

After adding everything up (excluding extra DLC), one playthrough of all three games took me 98 hours..

Definitely worth it.

Originally Posted by hailey I thought ME 1 was one of the promising new RPGs when it came out on 360...

New? It was a KotOR re-skin.

Originally Posted by PenguinJim New? It was a KotOR re-skin.

KOTOR doesn't play much like the ME series, combat-wise.

ME series plays more like a game w/ a mini-squad in a tactical shooter in real-time.

KOTOR queues up attack and auto-attacks (when you do normally shoot or melee attack); and you sit there and watch the game take turns in psuedo-real-time.
KOTOR doesn't auto-attack, when using Force or tossing grenades.

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Originally Posted by hailey I've never played 3 but even ME fans say to avoid it. I thought ME 1 was one of the promising new RPGs when it came out on 360, and I thought ME2 was pretty mediocre since it took out tons of rpg elements and was basically a cover shooter, and even the story was scaled back from an interesting space opera to whatever you would call the ME2 story I regret missing out on the ME1 deal on steam would love to replay it on pc

Then they are not true fans of ME. Sure, last 10 minutes or so sucks but the rest of the game is good and worth playing if you have played ME1+ME2.

Tony are you Planing of bringing back Dark souls deal again this month??. I really wanted to buy it today,but I missed it.

Originally Posted by PenguinJim New? It was a KotOR re-skin.

Eh, not really. They were both sci-fi and featured a "morality system" but the similarities pretty much end there. The universes are quite distinct and the Mass Effect trilogy improved quite a bit with each release. There are lots of people who had a very public issue with the very end of the series but to say that the games aren't worth playing is pure folly.

The Mass Effect series was one of the best times I've ever had in front of a monitor/TV with a controller/keyboard/mouse in hand ever. In the 100+ hours I spent in that universe there were rarely slow (such as the scanning sections in ME2) moments and the memorable points were many. It is also a rare game that makes decisions matter and actually tug *hard* on emotions.

Originally Posted by thesn00ze Then they are not true fans of ME. Sure, last 10 minutes or so sucks but the rest of the game is good and worth playing if you have played ME1+ME2.

THIS.

ME3 is fantastic, except for the horrendous last 10 minutes.
If you like ME1 and ME2, don't avoid ME3 b/c of the last 10 minutes.
The rest of the game is absolutely fantastic!

Just, when you do take the plunge and do the last mission, read this...
...Just, make sure to shut the game off before you get beamed aboard the ship in the final mission in London.
IMHO, the game falls apart and goes to HELL, once you get on the Ship...


My complaint w/ ME3's ending is...
...there's very little closure to Shepard and his crew's story, if you're looking for some sort of epic-style endings like we've seen in say BG2: TOB game; NWN: Hordes of the Underdark game; or even in the final LOTR: Return of the King movie. That was my real complain about the end. It's very-very abrupt. Sure, you can think about what the game might be alluding to happening (if you've been paying attention to some of the details, throughout the ME1+2 games) and how the ending is very symbolic of something else (i.e. Garden of Eden) - but you'll certainly probably want way more than what BioWare has given you.

Also, there's no real final epic boss battle, either. You don't have a boss battle fight w/ The Illusive Man at the end; or even battle some bad-ass alien at the end.

Originally Posted by hailey I've never played 3 but even ME fans say to avoid it. I thought ME 1 was one of the promising new RPGs when it came out on 360, and I thought ME2 was pretty mediocre since it took out tons of rpg elements and was basically a cover shooter, and even the story was scaled back from an interesting space opera to whatever you would call the ME2 story I regret missing out on the ME1 deal on steam would love to replay it on pc

No one is saying don't play ME3. The last 5 minutes or so is a little disappointing, although I haven't played through again with the extended ending yet. The rest of the 30 hour game is great. It really ties in well with the events of the first two games and brings good closure to the stories of your allies.

Also ME2's story has far better character development of your allies and supporting characters than ME1. Most of the RPG aspects are still present in ME2 as well. There are different stats you can divide points between, searching for resources, choosing the party you want to fight with.

Originally Posted by MysterD Just, when you do take the plunge and do the last mission, read this...

You can read it but there is no reason to follow this advice that I've seen in a ton of places. Play the game all the way through to it's conclusion and make up your own opinions about it. I understand many of the complaints leveled at it. It could have been executed a bit better but there are plenty of folks who enjoyed the ending and took the events that were shown much differently than the annoyed masses.

Play. Enjoy. Think.

Mass Effect 3 plot overall was full of inconsistencies and lazy writing coupled with lazy level design. Like the part where Shepard takes on a Reaper by strafing left and right, that was so stupid and devoid of imagination.

The whole game felt rushed from the beginning. It's definitely the weakest in the series. Even if the ending was satisfying I still wouldn't rate it higher than the previous titles.

Originally Posted by Wulfgr Mass Effect 3 plot overall was full of inconsistencies and lazy writing coupled with lazy level design. Like the part where Shepard takes on a Reaper by strafing left and right, that was so stupid and devoid of imagination.

That part was fun. And if there were a bunch of story inconsistencies and bad writing it sure as hell didn't stand out.

Originally Posted by momouchi No one is saying don't play ME3. The last 5 minutes or so is a little disappointing, although I haven't played through again with the extended ending yet. The rest of the 30 hour game is great. It really ties in well with the events of the first two games and brings good closure to the stories of your allies.

Yeah, I finished ME3 before Extended Ending. Haven't gone back to it.

Also ME2's story has far better character development of your allies and supporting characters than ME1. Most of the RPG aspects are still present in ME2 as well. There are different stats you can divide points between, searching for resources, choosing the party you want to fight with.

I agree w/ ME2 on the characters - since most of the game is about assembling your team and their own personal side-quests, you really get heavily invested w/ these characters. Especially, once the final mission hits.

I think ME2 has one of the best end-game missions that I've ever seen...
...even though ME2 has a terrible end-game boss battle.
I definitely preferred the end-game boss battle in ME1.


ME2 did take out A LOT of the typical RPG conventions found in ME1 (access Inventory while playing; getting new equipment; heavily modified your equipment). Of course, ME2's combat was ridiculously improved over ME1. Some of this upgrading equipment and equipment changing stuff - you namely do on the Normandy ship, before you begin a mission.

I dont see any TSW rage? didnt you guys noticed it got to editor's choice? glad i waited!