hmm.. if i preordered this a while back i still get the artbook right? I preordered this back when i canceled my GTA V pre order. I just did it to get the Max Payne 3 CE for like $30. Then i moved the 5 bucks over to this. Im assuming i will still get the artbook when it comes in even though at the time there was no mention of it right?

Originally Posted by Zaku77 Regardless of how good the rest of it is, I don't think I would like it. Just those two things that he mentioned are more than enough to turn me off of ever playing one of these.

If you can be so sure as to say you'll never, ever play the games just because of one thing you've simply heard, well, your loss, bub.

Originally Posted by Zaku77 Regardless of how good the rest of it is, I don't think I would like it. Just those two things that he mentioned are more than enough to turn me off of ever playing one of these.

your loss. the first two paragraphs he wrote are what make fire emblem so great. Even if I could turn off permadeath, I wouldn't.

One of the most satisfying parts of Fire Emblem is when you can evolve your character into a more awesome character, and then level up the evolved character even harder. I can't wait for this game. I'm also hoping for a new Advance Wars to be announced, but who knows if that will ever happen?

Originally Posted by confoosious your loss. the first two paragraphs he wrote are what make fire emblem so great. Even if I could turn off permadeath, I wouldn't.

I have to agree with you. As much as I hate and bitch about permadeath, I probably wouldn't turn it off if given the option to.

It's probably just like the Xenoblade artbook.

I'll keep my preorder on Amazon.

Day one purchase for me.
Trailer sold me and it looks awesome.
Ever since Conquest (and Im sure there are others) Ive been getting into more SRPG and TRPGS.

Originally Posted by Zaku77 Your first two paragraphs actually sold me on not getting into the series. Things like that just aren't friendly to the player and aren't fun. That sounds like the equivalent of Far Cry 2 where you could barely run 10 feet before succumbing to malaria, and your guns were constantly breaking. I have enough TRPGs to play, and these shall not be added to the list. Cheers! lol

Well in this version you can apparently turn permadeath off, but I don't think it'll bother you much to leave it on if you're any good at TRPG's. There are plenty of characters to recruit in the fire emblem series, you can afford to lose a few of them, but at the same time you might have an attachment to certain characters and don't want to see them perish on the battlefield.

As for gear, there are armories where you buy more. You'll never be caught without a weapon, but you won't be able to spam on weaker troops with the best weapons, unless you want to get your ass handed to you by the stronger troops. There are actually weapons that work specifically against certain kinds of troops. There's armor-busting weapons to use against knights, anti-cavalry weapons to use against calvary, etc..

It's definitely not "unfriendly" to the player, the limitations actually expand the tactical options. They make you think about what you're doing. If you lose a character in another TRPG because you foolishly moved your character into a position where the enemy can gangbang him, sure you'd be slightly upset but if you won the battle you'd just heal him and send him out again. Not so in fire emblem. You have to make sure your tactics are up to snuff. Same with gear. You have to decide who will use what weapons, and when to use those weapons.

Despite what your initial impressions of the game might have been based on my comments, I suggest you try playing a fire emblem game for yourself before judging it. It's worth owning if you're a fan of TRPG's.

Here's some short video of the gameplay in this game

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbZ9woy06y8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMb1O9xzO_I

IMO, it looks like it'll be one of the best entries in one of the best TRPG series.

Originally Posted by Zaku77 Your first two paragraphs actually sold me on not getting into the series. Things like that just aren't friendly to the player and aren't fun. That sounds like the equivalent of Far Cry 2 where you could barely run 10 feet before succumbing to malaria, and your guns were constantly breaking. I have enough TRPGs to play, and these shall not be added to the list. Cheers! lol

Fire emblem is one of the most tactical games on the handheld. This version is actually noobified to allow players like you to get into the series, which is great because more sales mean more fire emblem.

To me personally, perma death and all the minor micromanaging which is pretty minimal in the game is one of the highlights of the series ands I think that is what that makes it stand out compared to similar games.

Nothing beats the feeling when you build up a character and watch those characters kick some serious ass on the battlefield, but that's just me.

added: I personally bought a 3ds xl just for this game and possibly advance war.

Originally Posted by silver001 Nothing beats the feeling when you build up a character and watch those characters kick some serious ass on the battlefield, but that's just me.

Nope, not only you, this is the best since you eventually grow to care about some of the characters, and it's so cool to see them grow badass. In the first Fire Emblem that made it to the US on the GBA, I think on the last level before the final boss I just sent my fully leveled Florina, aka death on wings, into the middle of the map, left her there, and watched as she killed everyone that attempted to get close to her

so it looks like GS is the only one with the artbook?

Anyone know how many pages long they are? or if It's a hardcover love hardcover artbooks.

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Originally Posted by confoosious so it looks like GS is the only one with the artbook?

Apparently. I checked at a store today, and they had no idea about the artbook. I'm wondering if it's not only a GS exclusive, but also an online exclusive. I sure hope not, I've got $20 worth of store credit I'd like to use.

Also, at everyone that was turned away at the idea of permadeath and limited weapon usage, it isn't as bad in practice as it sounds on paper. The worst-case scenario if someone dies is that you need to start the mission over if you want them to live through it. The limited item usage is built on the principal that a weapon may be weaker for damage, but you can use it more (so you weigh whether you want to use your best weapon that turn, or a lesser one in case you'll get attacked by a bunch of weaker troops). Fire Emblem is one of my favorite game series, and much like Confoosious I have no intention of turning off the ability to die.

If you think casual mode is the only way that you'd be interested in the game, I encourage you to buy it and play that mode. I'm willing to bet that you'll be looking for copies of the other games once you finish this one.

I have this in my Amazon quick picks. So I have to decide if the $2 savings offsets the art book. Considering that the book would just go into a drawer, I'd say it probably is. Unless the art book becomes worth $100 later - but with a GS-exclusive, that seems unlikely.

I decided to get it at GameStop, I wanted the bonus so I figured I might as well pre-order it while I was there anyways picking up Anarchy Reigns. It looks like it's gonna be pretty fun.

Originally Posted by roger watersmelon Apparently. I checked at a store today, and they had no idea about the artbook. I'm wondering if it's not only a GS exclusive, but also an online exclusive. I sure hope not, I've got $20 worth of store credit I'd like to use.

The guys at the Gamestop I tried preordering at were ignorant of the bonus, too, but one of 'em was saying that since the holidays, corporate hasn't been quick to tell them about pre-order bonuses and that if the site says they're getting it, they'll get it.

I don't quite trust the guy, though; he seems to have an answer for everything and acts like a smug jackhole whenever you ask him anything. Best part is that he seems to be at every Gamestop when I go, no matter which location or what time I try (and there's four nearby). Seriously, I even went to this particular Gamestop because I'd never seen him there and thought I could escape him. The world is cruel.

Anyway, if I get nothing because I ordered in store... heads will roll. Don't mess with my Fire Emblem stuff.

said there will be tons of DLC on this game and thought neat... until i looked at japan and saw them charge 2 to 3 bucks per map OUCH ...


too bad they did not included all of the japan downloads on a cart and make it a special ed for 49.99 or 59.99

said there will be tons of DLC on this game and thought neat... until i looked at japan and saw them charge 2 to 3 bucks per map OUCH ...


too bad they did not included all of the japan downloads on a cart and make it a special ed for 49.99 or 59.99

Originally Posted by slidecage said there will be tons of DLC on this game and thought neat... until i looked at japan and saw them charge 2 to 3 bucks per map OUCH ... too bad they did not included all of the japan downloads on a cart and make it a special ed for 49.99 or 59.99

How many maps are they selling on there ?

This might be the one other 3DS game I pay full retail for (the first was a first run copy of Tales of the Abyss, after I was told they wouldn't be reprinting it).

Not sure if the art book is enough to make me spend money at Gamestop though.