Originally Posted by Flowette Thanks for the reply I'm still pretty new to GMG and pre-orders in general but The Cave has really caught my eye. Will sleep on it.

Be aware that GMG don't do pre-orders - they do pre-purchases. Slightly different.

Originally Posted by PenguinJim Be aware that GMG don't do pre-orders - they do pre-purchases. Slightly different.

Aha! 10 points to PenguinJim.

Please feel free to remind me of this conversation when I ask the same question about Monaco (due for release in March) in a month a time.

Originally Posted by DPsycho My GotY for 2012 is Theatrhythm Final Fantasy. Now if only they'd bundle the DLC...

Other than Virtue's Last Reward, Theatrhythm was both my biggest surprise and favorite game to play on the go (well, not sure if you count Ghost Trick on iOS). I think I sank over 40 hours into it as well, unlocking all the characters and leveling them up in such a way that I could kill bosses 4-5 times in one song in the early-mid levels of Chaos Shrine

I just wish that the Chaos Shrine could play ALL songs instead of just the same 12 or so that they recycle. That doesn't make ANY sense to me! Even when I purchased DLC, I'd have to just go to the boring single song modes to play them :( What's the point of the RPG aspect if you can only really utilize it for a small fraction of your total songs?

Overall though, great game and great surprise.

Originally Posted by Flowette So here's the question: if I buy at GMG will I or won't I get the items? (If you are really asking whether or not I'm willing to pay the price of a pint to get three pieces of digital clothing then the item is YES)

As a general rule, TF2 items are exclusive to Steam pre-orders. It's their incentive to order off their site.

GMG saves you money; Steam gives you hats.

I just realised something. On steamgifts.com I am able to enter gifts that are already in my list of games. But only the ones that I have been activated by keys or bundles, not the ones that I bought directly through the steam store.

Did anyone know that already? Or am I now unraveling something completely obvious? If so, why is this?

I've always found it kind of a bummer that you can't enter on games you already have. Although I can understand the reasons why, sometimes there are games I'd like to win to give to a friend because I know he/she would want it.

Originally Posted by Syntax Error As a general rule, TF2 items are exclusive to Steam pre-orders. It's their incentive to order off their site. GMG saves you money; Steam gives you hats.

Well clearly hats are more important than saving money, DUH!

NOT

Unless you can actually get someone to give you a game for them later which does happen sometimes but it's hard to predict the values in the hat market and you'd probably have to sit on it for a while.

Originally Posted by Motoki you'd probably have to sit on it for a while.[/spoiler]

Well, as long as you don''t have to eat it. . . .

Originally Posted by bill22 Now everyone knows I'm not much of a Chrome guy! Mysteries solved. I just emailed you a Amazon steam code for The Walking Dead. Let me know if it arrives ok. It's a great game. I hope you enjoy it.

You are the man! Thanks so much!

Originally Posted by elessar123 He doesn't have time to play games. He has to code!

There's always time for both. It's like their's always room for Jell-o.

Originally Posted by jshackles There's always time for both. It's like their's always room for Jell-o.

So if I understand your analogy correctly, gaming is the sugar water and gelatin of your life. Interesting.

Originally Posted by Motoki Well clearly hats are more important than saving money, DUH! NOT Unless you can actually get someone to give you a game for them later which does happen sometimes but it's hard to predict the values in the hat market and you'd probably have to sit on it for a while.

The difference, as I see it, is £2. The game is worth £7.99 so I'm basically paying two quid for a hat premium.

To buy that premium direct from the Hat Store would probably cost me in the region of £6-7. So by buying at full price, from Steam, I'm actually saving money. It's a 50% profit based on Net Asset Value. Bargain!

...

And you wonder how bankers shafted the economy.

Originally Posted by Therapy I just realised something. On steamgifts.com I am able to enter gifts that are already in my list of games. But only the ones that I have been activated by keys or bundles, not the ones that I bought directly through the steam store. Did anyone know that already? Or am I now unraveling something completely obvious? If so, why is this?

Steamgifts syncs your account once a week manually, or you can sync it manually. Any games added since your last sync aren't noticed as being on your account.

I've always found it kind of a bummer that you can't enter on games you already have. Although I can understand the reasons why, sometimes there are games I'd like to win to give to a friend because I know he/she would want it.

Have your friend join? The requirements are still extremely low.

Originally Posted by Genocidal Steamgifts syncs your account once a week manually, or you can sync it manually. Any games added since your last sync aren't noticed as being on your account. Have your friend join? The requirements are still extremely low.

Thanks for clarifying! Yeah of course my friends could join themselves :P but that's kinda beside my point there's alot out there I don't want/need myself but someone else might like. But meh, it would severely limit everyone's chances anyways since every game will have yet even more entries.

Originally Posted by Flowette The difference, as I see it, is £2. The game is worth £7.99 so I'm basically paying two quid for a hat premium. To buy that premium direct from the Hat Store would probably cost me in the region of £6-7. So by buying at full price, from Steam, I'm actually saving money. It's a 50% profit based on Net Asset Value. Bargain! ... And you wonder how bankers shafted the economy.

Just get prepared for a bunch of random Russians to IM you bugging you to trade your hat. I'm serious.

When I had the Tropico 4 pre-order hat I used to always get Russians out of the blue asking to trade for it until one day I caved and traded it for From Dust.

Now they leave me alone, but if I get another in demand hat again? Russians.

Originally Posted by Motoki Now they leave me alone, but if I get another in demand hat again? Russians.

Private inventory.

Originally Posted by Detruire Private inventory.

True, but you need a public profile for signatures and Steamgifts to sync and what not.

But if I get another hot hat again I'll probably go private.

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Man, I never get Russians wanting to give me games for hats.

The one little minx who used to hit me up for Trine 2 will have to live with disappointment since I traded it to a friend for Unstoppable Gorg. He got the better end of that trade by any measure but, after Trine 2 sat for a year in my inventory, I figured I'd do him the Yuletide solid.

Originally Posted by Therapy Thanks for clarifying! Yeah of course my friends could join themselves :P but that's kinda beside my point there's alot out there I don't want/need myself but someone else might like. But meh, it would severely limit everyone's chances anyways since every game will have yet even more entries.

Steamgifts requires you to activate it yourself. Giving away keys would be a good way to get yourself banned.

Sorry for being a SteamGifts noob but does a gift have to be an item in your inventory?

I've got a giveaway ending tonight, thankfully it's for a private CAG group, but it's for a game that I got from GamersGate during the Xmas sale so I only have the key.

Are keys non-allowable for giveaway purposes?

Originally Posted by Motoki True, but you need a public profile for signatures and Steamgifts to sync and what not. But if I get another hot hat again I'll probably go private.

The inventory has separate privacy settings.

Originally Posted by Flowette Sorry for being a SteamGifts noob but does a gift have to be an item in your inventory? I've got a giveaway ending tonight, thankfully it's for a private CAG group, but it's for a game that I got from GamersGate during the Xmas sale so I only have the key. Are keys non-allowable for giveaway purposes?

Keys are fine so long as they redeem on Steam and aren't exploited.

Originally Posted by Flowette Sorry for being a SteamGifts noob but does a gift have to be an item in your inventory? I've got a giveaway ending tonight, thankfully it's for a private CAG group, but it's for a game that I got from GamersGate during the Xmas sale so I only have the key. Are keys non-allowable for giveaway purposes?

you can give away keys on steamgifts.