Originally Posted by JP I'll pick Ravens every time as I'm a fan. I also hate Peyton Manning with a ing passion.

I pick the Giants every time for the same reason. Not sure why you hate Manning though - he is awesome.

Originally Posted by dafoomie I'm torn, because one of the quarterbacks is: 0-3 in the playoffs when the temperature is under 40 degrees. 1-3 after a 1st round bye. 4-7 in his 1st game of the playoffs. And the other is Joe Flacco.

You forgot about him being the best QB of all time with a historically great offense and a running game to lean on for the first time in 7 years.

Originally Posted by Javery Not sure why you hate Manning though - he is awesome.

Maybe he just can't stand looking at his Frankenstein head .

Originally Posted by blindinglights Maybe he just can't stand looking at his Frankenstein head .

Well that's a fair point.

I have irrational hatred for players too but I can appreciate the greats. I hate Handsome Tawmmy Brady but he is damn good and fun to watch (especially when he is getting pressured all game hahaha).

How does one hate Peyton Manning with a passion? I have no problem with Brady either. You can be envious of his life but I can't bother to hate any player. I'm not one of those people that sanctifies players either, none of us have even met them. They could be total ass holes.

The best game of the weekend should be SF-Green Bay. Those teams are the closest to each other on paper, while the stats tell us that Denver, New England and Seattle should all be pretty good bets to win. They don't play the games on paper of course.

Edit: Just to clarify what "stats" I'm talking about, I usually find Football Outsiders' DVOA rankings to be a very good metric of how "good" a team is relative to the rest of the league. That tells us that Seattle, Denver and New England are all fantastic teams; Green Bay and San Francisco are very good; and the other three are good but not great. That gels with what my eyes tell me as well having watched all these teams.

Originally Posted by Javery I have irrational hatred for players

The only player I "hate" is Bernard Pollard, but that's completely rational.

Originally Posted by cfootball1 How does one hate Peyton Manning with a passion? I have no problem with Brady either. You can be envious of his life but I can't bother to hate any player. I'm not one of those people that sanctifies players either, none of us have even met them. They could be total ass holes.

I think both Manning's are great quarterbacks but I can't help but thinking they might have an extra chromosome (trisomy 21).

I love DVOA... and most advanced football/baseball stats - nerd alert!

Originally Posted by bvharris The only player I "hate" is Bernard Pollard, but that's completely rational.

He has a knack for injuring New England players, Took Brady, Welker, and Gronkowski out. Its just baffeling how one player can take out a teams top 3 players to serious injuries. I feel your pain, I'm a Patriots fan too.

Originally Posted by Javery I love DVOA... and most advanced football/baseball stats - nerd alert!

DVOA also says Baltimore's biggest advantage in this game is Special Teams... So we can already see it's not perfect.

By the way, nobody does the "throw a pop-up and pray for a flag" better than Flacco. He's like the Johnny Unitas of that.

This Denver/Raven game is not looking to good for Baltimore. Broncos ran the opening kickoff back for a touchdown, now Baltimore recieved kick off near their goal line, they cant afford to get too far behind in Denver.

Thing of note, when a team is running a kick off back for a touch down, and only Defense left is the kicker, who ALWAYS look like the slowest uncoordinated athlete ever when running to try to make the saving tackle.

Edit: Well spoke too soon, Flaco throws a bomb to Torie Smith for TD.

This is going to be a fun game to watch.

Wow.. what a pass and catch from Manning and Stokley

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki This is going to be a fun game to watch.

I was gonna say. Only the 1st quarter, and this game is already more entertaining than all 4 last week.

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Lmao @ Broncos secondary getting torched on almost every long bomb.

EDIT: lol typical Ravens, didnt even take 1 quarter before they went back to garbage play calls and making Denver seem better than they really are. Literally getting burned by Noshow moron.

Originally Posted by Javery I pick the Giants every time for the same reason. Not sure why you hate Manning though - he is awesome.

I hate 3 players in the NFL: Peyton Manning, Eli Manning and Jay Cutler

Peyton Manning: I respect his talent but I hate him because of his attitude. Everything is always someone's fault. On it's own, that wouldn't be that bad but the key was in 2005 when he called out his offensive line after a loss in the playoffs. Now he was right in that his line was crap but you don't take that shit out of the locker room.

Eli Manning: I've hated him ever since the draft. His "I'm taking my ball and going home." attitude when he was drafted by the Chargers just pissed me off. People can say Elway did the same, don't care. DOn't like Elway either. I believe it's a slap in the face to the league when you are just like it I don't want to play. It's his choice to do so, but I felt it showed a lack of class.

Jay Cutler: Grew up in the same area with him and he was a spoiled ing child back then. Felt the entire world revolved around him. He acts the same way now that he did back in high school. Dude needs to grow the up and act like a man and not a spoiled child.

Dear CBS,

Please shut up and stop running ads every break reminding me you are "America's Number One Network." Especially since I don't give two craps about just about every show you have. Thank you.

Originally Posted by renique46 Lmao @ Broncos secondary getting torched on almost every long bomb. EDIT: lol typical Ravens, didnt even take 1 quarter before they went back to garbage play calls and making Denver seem better than they really are. Literally getting burned by Noshow moron.

Really? Moreno is pouring gasoline on them and lighting them on fire? I didn't see that.

That last connection between flacco and smith was top notch. This is a hell of a game.

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback You mean the guy who took away Clevelands franchise and went broke in the process? Hes totally comparable to Santo.

Which wouldn't have happened if Irsay hadn't skipped town, Cleveland officials didn't conspire to run Modell out of town, and Hall of Fame commissioner Paul Taglibue didn't fuel the conspiracy to block Baltimore getting a football team in the mid 90's. You really think Jacksonville was the first choice for an expansion team?

Hell, how is what Modell did any different from Al Davis moving the Raiders every couple of years? You'd think Modell is the only owner who ever moved a sports team.

Oh yea, and the Cleveland Browns STILL EXIST. The Baltimore Colts, last I checked, DO NOT.

Originally Posted by cfootball1 How does one hate Peyton Manning with a passion? I have no problem with Brady either. You can be envious of his life but I can't bother to hate any player. I'm not one of those people that sanctifies players either, none of us have even met them. They could be total ass holes.

It's called being a Houston Texans fan.

And FUMBLE!!!!