Sumioni demo was okay, felt like Okami as a 2D platformer, though having to use the rear touchscreen to refill your ink felt really awkward, plus switching from buttons to drawing platforms in the middle of battle & such was kind of annoying at times. Though for $10, it almost feels like getting. Any opinions?

Still not sure on Orgarhythm. I feel like I should like it (Pikmin + rhythm), especially if that's 1/2 off as well for $15, but I don't think I was sold on the demo. Maybe because it felt a bit too easy (which I'm sure the game gets harder), as there was barely any enemies to fight once I finished the tutorial & played the actual stage.

Gah, I love Mega Man 10 so much. Once you get over that hump, and get back in the groove, it gets a lot easier. Practice makes perfect in these games. I still don't quite understand how people get through the Wily stages without getting hit. Seems damn near impossible to me.

Originally Posted by Zonic505 Sumioni demo was okay, felt like Okami as a 2D platformer, though having to use the rear touchscreen to refill your ink felt really awkward, plus switching from buttons to drawing platforms in the middle of battle & such was kind of annoying at times. Though for $10, it almost feels like getting. Any opinions? Still not sure on Orgarhythm. I feel like I should like it (Pikmin + rhythm), especially if that's 1/2 off as well for $15, but I don't think I was sold on the demo. Maybe because it felt a bit too easy (which I'm sure the game gets harder), as there was barely any enemies to fight once I finished the tutorial & played the actual stage.

Keep in mind that Orgarhythm was the one that was announced as a permanent price drop. So if it's not cheap enough for you, just wait out for an additional sale on it.

Originally Posted by captaintek3304 Gah, I love Mega Man 10 so much. Once you get over that hump, and get back in the groove, it gets a lot easier. Practice makes perfect in these games. I still don't quite understand how people get through the Wily stages without getting hit. Seems damn near impossible to me.

The key is practice makes perfect as you stated.

Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 About how long would you guys say Odin Sphere is?

I've heard it's around 30-40 hours.

Originally Posted by Bumslie I've heard it's around 30-40 hours.

Thanks, man.

Originally Posted by captaintek3304 Gah, I love Mega Man 10 so much. Once you get over that hump, and get back in the groove, it gets a lot easier. Practice makes perfect in these games. I still don't quite understand how people get through the Wily stages without getting hit. Seems damn near impossible to me.

It wasn't really hard until Wily 1, cause theres 3 boss fights IIRC. But wily 4 is probably the harddest by far. 11 boss fights altogether. You can save after every level in MM10 to make it easier, and falling on spikes doesn't count if you have that item. Also you can play it on easy mode and as any character you want.

I played up to wily 1, gave up one day and forgot which save file had the perfect run going so I abandoned it rather than risk beating Wily 1-4 and then not getting the achievement

Originally Posted by Pravado It wasn't really hard until Wily 1, cause theres 3 boss fights IIRC. But wily 4 is probably the harddest by far. 11 boss fights altogether. You can save after every level in MM10 to make it easier, and falling on spikes doesn't count if you have that item. Also you can play it on easy mode and as any character you want. I played up to wily 1, gave up one day and forgot which save file had the perfect run going so I abandoned it rather than risk beating Wily 1-4 and then not getting the achievement

These boil down to luck / skill, but this still isn't as bad as beating Hard Corps without dying.

Originally Posted by Josh1billion To be the devil's advocate here... I loved the rest of the series but didn't enjoy Disgaea 2. The characters are extremely annoying, especially those with nails-on-chalkboard whiny voices.. the dialogue makes me cringe, while the writing in the rest of the series tends to be pretty funny. It also didn't seem to add much in the way of mechanics, compared to the other sequels, so the gameplay, to me, just felt like more of the same. For these reasons, it's the only Disgaea I haven't been able to finish.

I agree but to less extent. Disgaea 2 is my least favorite in the series for the same reason but I liked it enough to finish it and would say it's definitely worth 10 bucks.

For me its 4>3 on Vita>1>3>2

I hated 2 for so many reasons, the characters were boring, and the story wasnt good at all. It just felt like a generic RPG story.

25% of those hours on Odin Sphere will be entering restaurant, eating food, leaving restaurant, repeat...
and loading screens each step of the way...

Originally Posted by Bumslie The key is practice makes perfect as you stated.

Originally Posted by Pravado It wasn't really hard until Wily 1, cause theres 3 boss fights IIRC. But wily 4 is probably the harddest by far. 11 boss fights altogether. You can save after every level in MM10 to make it easier, and falling on spikes doesn't count if you have that item. Also you can play it on easy mode and as any character you want. I played up to wily 1, gave up one day and forgot which save file had the perfect run going so I abandoned it rather than risk beating Wily 1-4 and then not getting the achievement

Originally Posted by admiralvic These boil down to luck / skill, but this still isn't as bad as beating Hard Corps without dying.

I'm dreading Wily. I'm playing on Normal with Proto. I beat it just once with Bass, but I don't like his inability to shoot while moving. Plus Proto's shield and charge shot really come through in a tight spot. But as a frame of reference, when I first started on Tuesday after downloading, I couldn't make it through Sheep Man without dying at the first mini boss every single time. Now I can do it with my eyes closed. And I SUCK at platformers. So really, just keep it up and even a complete idiot can do it.


Like me!

Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 Thanks, man.

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Originally Posted by tylerh1701 Keep in mind that Orgarhythm was the one that was announced as a permanent price drop. So if it's not cheap enough for you, just wait out for an additional sale on it.

Ahh, forgot about that. Yeah, maybe I'll wait for that to happen, then another sale to let me focus on other games at the moment. Thanks for reminding me.

So I finally got back into Tokyo Jungle. I've just been unlocking animals as fast as I can until I get to the Black Panther, then I'll start leveling him up and use him to try to get the trophy for doing all of the challenges. Then I'll use one of the animals you get from beating the story to cheat my way to 100 years, haha.

Since we're kinda just talking about random games, I'll say that I've been extremely impressed with Dokuro. Finished up the game this afternoon, but I gotta go back and replay some levels to get my finish time under 250 minutes (I'm a slow player). I only had to look up solutions for about 5 levels, (one of which I just forgot the blue chalk existed) most the puzzles are tough but fair. Lots of content, was well worth my $9.99.

Don't know if I'll be going for the platinum, not sure I want to try and complete all of Stage 14 without getting hit.

Originally Posted by Zonic505 Ahh, forgot about that. Yeah, maybe I'll wait for that to happen, then another sale to let me focus on other games at the moment. Thanks for reminding me.

Not sure if it helps / matters, but I thought Orgarhythm is the worst Vita game at the moment (and I own Earth Defense Force). The gameplay is quite convoluted (it gets quite fast paced too =., it's not really long and it's impossible to platinum without finding someone who owns the game in person (or vita Ad Hoc party... though I don't know if it works). To this day I don't see why so many people reviewed it highly (averaged a 7 - 8). I assumed it was over it being unique / different, but so many people told me off that I like to assume I just missed something great about it.

Originally Posted by tylerh1701 Since we're kinda just talking about random games, I'll say that I've been extremely impressed with Dokuro. Finished up the game this afternoon, but I gotta go back and replay some levels to get my finish time under 250 minutes (I'm a slow player). I only had to look up solutions for about 5 levels, (one of which I just forgot the blue chalk existed) most the puzzles are tough but fair. Lots of content, was well worth my $9.99. Don't know if I'll be going for the platinum, not sure I want to try and complete all of Stage 14 without getting hit.

Stage 14 isn't too bad once you know how to play the game. The hard one is beating the final boss, since you can only attack him during a few select instances.

Does Dokuro have any missable trophies?

Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 Does Dokuro have any missable trophies?

No.

Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 Does Dokuro have any missable trophies?

Yes / No.

Every stage has an optional collectible (not usually hard to find, but can be hard to figure out), plus you need to beat the game in a certain amount of time, so every stage needs to be done quickly. Unless you're bad, stupid, slow, or lazy, it's not INSANELY hard to do, since I spent 15 minutes on the final boss and still got the time trophy without redoing any stages. Also every stage can be replayed, done faster (thus lowering your overall time) and so while you can miss stuff, you can easily get them later.

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Originally Posted by admiralvic Yes / No. Every stage has an optional collectible (not usually hard to find, but can be hard to figure out), plus you need to beat the game in a certain amount of time, so every stage needs to be done quickly. Unless you're bad, stupid, slow, or lazy, it's not INSANELY hard to do, since I spent 15 minutes on the final boss and still got the time trophy without redoing any stages. Also every stage can be replayed, done faster (thus lowering your overall time) and so while you can miss stuff, you can easily get them later.

By missable, I meant you would have to start a new game to get them (ie: miss a collectible in level 10 but after you beat the game, you'd have to start a whole new game to get back to level 10), but good, that'll probably be the next game I play.