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Originally Posted by GamerDude316 Bucs send RB Doug Martin: 24 years old 86 OVR 87 SPD 95 ACC 83 ELU 84 CAR contract: 3 years remaining, $3.2 M bonus 2013: $1.56 M 2014: $1.78 M 2015: $2.08 M WR Vincent Jackson: 88 OVR 88 CTH 94 CIT 88 RTE 95 RLS 90 SPD 86 AWR 4 years remaining, $25 M bonus 2013: $9.31 M 2014: $10.61 M 2015: $12.29 M 2016: $14.47 M Team cap space: $6.00 M Ravens send RB Ray Rice: 26 years old 96 OVR 91 SPD 97 ACC 93 ELU 95 CAR 2 years remaining, $7.66 M bonus 2013: $5.21 M 2014: $9.32 M Ravens 2nd round pick Ravens cap space: $13.87 M I believe I now have the cap space to make this deal work. Reasoning for trade: I want to upgrade my RB, Ravens owner wants a more consistent option at WR and Martin will be a starting RB for him.

Trade Rejected

The committee felt the Ravens were giving up too much here. Rice is one of the best RBs in the game and in addition to being a bitch to tackle, he's still got the "Madden Numbers" (speed/acceleration) to just run away from you. Martin isn't terrible, but he's no Ray Rice. Factor in Jackson's very sizable contract, and having Baltimore send a 2nd as well just seems like too much. The idea of taking that pick out and just doing Martin/Jackson for Rice was raised. At the very least, the pick needs to be much lower.

Originally Posted by ballinhun8 Cowboys send - WR Miles Austin 29 2013- $7.60M I couldn't find his numbers for the rest of the contract through the game Bonus- $7M Toral- $49M SPD 93, CTH 90, CIT 84, RTE 86, RLS 87, AWR 87 3rd Round Draft Pick Patriots send -WR Michael Floyd 23 2013- $1.09M 2014- $1.4M Total- $5M SPD 90, CTH 85, CIT 88, RTE 80, RLS 89, AWR 57 MLB Brandon Spikes 26 2013- $1.94M Bonus- $1M Total- $5M I hope I did the numbers right because this is way too hard and difficult to be making trades this way. My reasonings are the same for when I originally submitted this deal. Get under the cap, get younger, and improve my middle defense. PUR 86, TAK 89, SPD 74, PRC 89

Trade Rejected

Proposal missing a lot of info. If it's "way too hard and difficult to make trades this way", then don't bother. Believe it or not, it takes time and energy to review the trades too. If you're not including the info, then we have to look it up ourselves. If it's a deal you want, make the effort.

Why do we post the trades in the forum why not pm the owners that it was rejected?

Originally Posted by GpNinja Why do we post the trades in the forum why not pm the owners that it was rejected?

along time ago we were going to only post up accepted trades and not the rejected one but then only the committee would know who was trying to be moved and no one else then they could later move in on trades if they didnt work out so it was thought to make things fair that rejected ones should be posted as well

Originally Posted by GpNinja Why do we post the trades in the forum why not pm the owners that it was rejected?

Because otherwise, the committee knows about players who are available for trade and the rest of the league doesn't (assuming every single team doesn't keep a very up to date trade block). It was discussed as being an unfair advantage.

I like reading the trades. Gives you a good sense of who may be up for grabs.

Originally Posted by CAGLeagueSports Trade Rejected The committee felt the Ravens were giving up too much here. Rice is one of the best RBs in the game and in addition to being a bitch to tackle, he's still got the "Madden Numbers" (speed/acceleration) to just run away from you. Martin isn't terrible, but he's no Ray Rice. Factor in Jackson's very sizable contract, and having Baltimore send a 2nd as well just seems like too much. The idea of taking that pick out and just doing Martin/Jackson for Rice was raised. At the very least, the pick needs to be much lower.

Wow Ravens giving up too much?

Rice is a the 5th rated RB in Madden, but he is giving up Doug Martin who is a good RB and Vincent Jackson who has to be in the top 10-15 or so for WRs. Wasn't Arian Foster (3rd top rated RB) traded for CJ Spiller and a 1st round pick? I think this trade is fair, and don't understand the logic based on previous trades the committee has approved. Also, Jackson is worth more then a 1st round pick, I'll at least agree that the pick from the Ravens needs to be lower but it really doesn't seem that off to me.

Originally Posted by Blade3D Wow Ravens giving up too much? Rice is a the 5th rated RB in Madden, but he is giving up Doug Martin who is a good RB and Vincent Jackson who has to be in the top 10-15 or so for WRs. Wasn't Arian Foster (3rd top rated RB) traded for CJ Spiller and a 1st round pick? I think this trade is fair, and don't understand the logic based on previous trades the committee has approved. Also, Jackson is worth more then a 1st round pick, I'll at least agree that the pick from the Ravens needs to be lower but it really doesn't seem that off to me.

I'm failing to see how your argument doesn't actually support the trade being rejected, lol. Wouldn't Spiller + a 1st rounder be similar to Martin + Jackson? (though, to be fair, Spiller's numbers probably aren't as good as they should be) So, if you view Foster and Rice on a similar level, then Baltimore additionally throwing in a 2nd rounder would be too much, no?

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu I'm failing to see how your argument doesn't actually support the trade being rejected, lol. Wouldn't Spiller + a 1st rounder be similar to Martin + Jackson? (though, to be fair, Spiller's numbers probably aren't as good as they should be) So, if you view Foster and Rice on a similar level, then Baltimore additionally throwing in a 2nd rounder would be too much, no?

No I am saying that Jackson is better then a 1st round pick. I am also saying that Foster is rated slightly higher than Rice. I mean I guess a 3rd round pick would be more preferable, but as I am seeing it wasn't that far off.

Raiders vs dolphins can't play until late tomorrow night guys, like 11pm. I know it's not ideal, but letting you all know.

Making my bye week seem even longer :(

Originally Posted by perdition(troy Making my bye week seem even longer :(

I know right

Originally Posted by CAGLeagueSports Trade Rejected Proposal missing a lot of info. If it's "way too hard and difficult to make trades this way", then don't bother. Believe it or not, it takes time and energy to review the trades too. If you're not including the info, then we have to look it up ourselves. If it's a deal you want, make the effort.

I have to negotiate with Brandon Spikes now if I want to keep him, which will of course make his numbers even higher. As somebody mentioned earlier in the thread, this is why you don't see these deals in the NFL.

Originally Posted by CAGLeagueSports Trade Rejected Proposal missing a lot of info. If it's "way too hard and difficult to make trades this way", then don't bother. Believe it or not, it takes time and energy to review the trades too. If you're not including the info, then we have to look it up ourselves. If it's a deal you want, make the effort.

Then don't have a committee then. Its not like the NFL has one so why would a video game league have one?? Its stupid to have one.


And I don't see the "a lot of info" missing here except Austin's contract. And if iiI can't find it through the game then where else am I supposed to find it? It only shows his 2010-2013 salary numbers.

^if you go in the team salaries tab under "strategy" it should list remaining contract numbers for your players.

Then don't have a committee then. Its not like the NFL has one so why would a video game league have one?? Its stupid to have one.And I don't see the "a lot of info" missing here except Austin's contract. And if iiI can't find it through the game then where else am I supposed to find it? It only shows his 2010-2013 salary numbers.

You seem to take issue with just about everything that doesn't go your way in this league. The committee has worked fine thus far and I'm assuming will continue to work.

Originally Posted by ballinhun8 Then don't have a committee then. Its not like the NFL has one so why would a video game league have one?? Its stupid to have one. And I don't see the "a lot of info" missing here except Austin's contract. And if iiI can't find it through the game then where else am I supposed to find it? It only shows his 2010-2013 salary numbers.

Call the trade committee stupid...then openly admit that you don't know how to find remaining contract info. What an excellent post. I'm not even going to argue about the merits of the trade committee. But if you want to keep bad mouthing it, I've got a strike waiting for you. The trade wasn't even rejected for being unbalanced. It was rejected for a lack of competence in submitting the proposal.

The required info has changed a couple times in the past month or so, but that's all been documented in the thread and is reflected in the OP. Yes, it's "more work" for the team submitting the trade, but it's all necessary info to figure out if the trade is even possible. And like I said, if you don't include it, we have to look it up.

If you can't figure out the remaining portion of Austin's contract, then you don't need to be trading him. But if you've never been to the "salaries" tab in your team strategy in over a season of play, you've got bigger problems.

Still haven't heard anything from the new colts owner neworlbush25.

in the other thread someone mentioned something about him being at niagra falls, DVO has his cell and can get in touch with him.

Originally Posted by DarkTower80 Still haven't heard anything from the new colts owner neworlbush25.

His internet gets turned back on today he and i were suppose to play in the other league but when he reutrned his roomate hadnt paid the bill or something.like that since they were on christmas leave. And he jiat got back to whwre he lives.