The whole Justin Upton trade situation has gotten ridiculous. Jim Bowden was saying that he thinks Upton should try and file a grievance to see if he can become a free agent. The D-Backs really have shit all over Upton.

Yeah, the Rangers have moved on from him. However, Evan Grant reported that is a terrible excuse for a human being. I'm not really sold on Texas' lineup next year, but I can deal with it. For me, it all depends on Berkman, Kinsler and Cruz having good seasons, at least better than last season for Kinsler and Cruz.

The Orioles would love to have Upton, but Arizona ain't getting Bundy or Machado, so it isn't likely to happen.

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback The whole Justin Upton trade situation has gotten ridiculous. Jim Bowden was saying that he thinks Upton should try and file a grievance to see if he can become a free agent. The D-Backs really have shit all over Upton.

Really clueless as to why Towers would even think for a moment he would accept a trade to a team on his no trade list. That's like a restaurant trying to force a vegan to eat meat. It will never happen.

The Mariners did HUGELY overpay for him though and they should send Upton a gift basket for not accepting the trade. They gave up way too much in the deal. Top position prospect, best pitching prospect, and 2 MLB arms just for Upton. I do not think many GMs would do that but then again, the Mariners never cease to amaze me every year.

Originally Posted by integralsmatic Really clueless as to why Towers would even think for a moment he would accept a trade to a team on his no trade list. That's like a restaurant trying to force a vegan to eat meat. It will never happen. The Mariners did HUGELY overpay for him though and they should send Upton a gift basket for not accepting the trade. They gave up way too much in the deal. Top position prospect, best pitching prospect, and 2 MLB arms just for Upton. I do not think many GMs would do that but then again, the Mariners never cease to amaze me every year.

I disagree, I think it was fair trade. Walker and Franklin did not have good years once they were promoted (4.69 ERA and 3.6 BB/9 in AA) ( .243/.310/.416 in AAA). Furbush was a mess before last year, Pryor is the only safe bet in the deal. Hell, I think Arizona can do better than a top 15 prospect, a top 50 prospect; both of whom had down years, and 2 relievers.

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback The whole Justin Upton trade situation has gotten ridiculous. Jim Bowden was saying that he thinks Upton should try and file a grievance to see if he can become a free agent. The D-Backs really have shit all over Upton.

As long as D-Backs pay his salary they can shit all over him as long as they don't violate the contract. Upton has a contract and the players union to protect him. If they hold his paycheck then he has a grievance.

I don't know if I like last night's Nationals trade or not. Getting Cole back is great, but losing Morse...yeah, I dunno. I'm not seeing where the Nationals are going to make up those runs with their projected lineup right now.

Originally Posted by KingBroly I don't know if I like last night's Nationals trade or not. Getting Cole back is great, but losing Morse...yeah, I dunno. I'm not seeing where the Nationals are going to make up those runs with their projected lineup right now.

Where would you put Morse though? You can't not start LaRoche, Harper, Werth or Span. It sucks losing his production, but they couldn't keep him. It's too bad the Phillies are in the same division, I would have loved to get Morse.

Who the hell is Span?

Harper can hit. Werth hits seldomly. Zimmerman can hit, but is inconsistent and has been somewhat injury prone the last couple of years. LaRoche can hit but he's old and I doubt he can keep up his production from last year. Desmond was a surprise last year, but I'm skeptical if he can continue that trend this year. Even though Rizzo is getting more pitchers, I'm not seeing where we're going to make up a lot of production.

I like the idea of getting a deeper bullpen because it was dreadfully thin last year because they were relied upon so heavily early on. Not to mention that Nats starters RARELY went more than 6 innings, which definitely caused them to get burnt out later on in the year. But I have to question it when you take one of your best bats out of the lineup.

Then again, he did with Adam Duh and it worked out, so maybe it will here too.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...spande01.shtml

I'd argue that he is one of the better centerfielders in the league, and is still 28. Decent WAR last year (and pretty good dWAR). Plus he is a Nard Dog.

I like the Morse trade, seeing as how both teams win. I highly doubt Morse is an everday player in Washington, but he will be in Seattle. I've always liked Morse as a player. I would've liked to see him as a Ranger, but that became impossible once they signed Berkman.

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Originally Posted by KingBroly Who the hell is Span?

Your centerfielder, Nationals fan.

He definitely is one of the better CFs in baseball, I wish the Phillies got him instead of Revere.

Extremely sad day for baseball, losing Stan Musial and Earl Weaver.

The Braves have acquired Justin Upton. I'm a little peaved at Kevin Towers because the offer The Rangers had on the table blew Atlanta's out of the way, but I guess this isn't a surprise considering Towers isn't the brightest GM.

Time for the Rangers to move on with what they got (a wild card team, at best). They could be saving their pieces for Price or Stanton, but lately JD has been very crude and selfish with the overabundance of prospects he has.

I'm glad the Braves got done what everyone in the Philadelphia area thought the Phillies were going to do. I'm totally loving Ryan Howard's contract right about now.

Braves have a great, young outfield now with the Upton brothers and Heyward

Amaro has to be the stupidest GM in the game. On top of Howard's contract, claiming that he does not care about walks and that he signed Young for his "production" (.267 .296 .411) is ing ridiculous. Oh yeah, he also expects him to be the starting RF.

I'll just leave this here.

I know, I know. I'm not happy about it either. And the more I think about it and read about it, the Revere trade isn't that great either. It's been a pretty terrible offseason for us and I fully expect a third place finish (maybe even fourth depending on how the Mets look and if they get Bourn). At least we'll get a high draft pick out of it and hopefully a few of our minor leaguers show serious development and can make the team next season.

If the D-Backs cant lock up Prado, then Wren hijacked the D-Backs. They still kept Andrelton Simmons. There was no room for Randal Delgado in that rotation anyway so he became expendable. Not giving up simmons was just a huge bonus. well played wren.

As much as I am annoyed about the Phillies signing Delmon Young, it even bothers me more knowing that this is going to hurt Dominic Brown and Darin Ruf's playing time. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ruf start the season in AAA now.

Originally Posted by tcrash247 I know, I know. I'm not happy about it either. And the more I think about it and read about it, the Revere trade isn't that great either. It's been a pretty terrible offseason for us and I fully expect a third place finish (maybe even fourth depending on how the Mets look and if they get Bourn). At least we'll get a high draft pick out of it and hopefully a few of our minor leaguers show serious development and can make the team next season.

Yeah 3rd place seems likely. I thought for sure at the minimum the Phillies will get one of the 2 wildcards if Utley, Howard and Halladay stay healthy but now even a wildcard doesn't seem like a sure thing.

Originally Posted by YoshiFan1 As much as I am annoyed about the Phillies signing Delmon Young, it even bothers me more knowing that this is going to hurt Dominic Brown and Darin Ruf's playing time. I wouldn't be surprised to see Ruf start the season in AAA now. Yeah 3rd place seems likely. I thought for sure at the minimum the Phillies will get one of the 2 wildcards if Utley, Howard and Halladay stay healthy but now even a wildcard doesn't seem like a sure thing.

They are done with Brown. They should have never signed Young if they had faith in Brown playing in the big leagues. I hear stories that Ruf is the man the Phillies want to shoot up to the roster this year.

here is a good article on Fangraphs dealing with the Phillies OF situation with Young signed what options they could take. To them it looks like one of the two are the odd man out.