Originally Posted by Poor2More 3 days later and I still hate Bernard Pollard, Ravens will extend his contract just because he is one player that causes Mayhem (latterly every game) to the Patriots, no matter the year or situation. Flacco is an avg quarterback no doubt, he is in the same beer league as Tony Romo. They both have shinning moments where analyze will get a hard on "OMGZ did you seez dat, I think he is an elite QB" one week, but then a week later shit all over Romo because he is in fact a avg to below avg QB.

If Romo had Flaccos running game he wouldnt get near the hate he does. Also Romo is not an average QB. He is just prone to having a bad game. He needs a running game and a better playcaller to truly shine.

Originally Posted by renique46 Hi John Fox

oh I am sure John Fox definitely cares about Flacco's play. Nice try though, One game doesn't make a career. Geez you probably think Dilfer should be in the HOF too.

Originally Posted by usickenme oh I am sure John Fox definitely cares about Flacco's play. Nice try though, One game doesn't make a career. Geez you probably think Dilfer should be in the HOF too.

Dilfer didn't lead the Ravens to their SB win. The Ravens wouldn't be in New Orleans if not for Flacco. Yes, the running game has helped, but the Ravens passing game has done 80% of the damage. His postseason so far has factually been one of the best any QB has ever had. If he somehow manages to throw 4 TDs without an INT, it WILL be the best.

Ravens should have sacked Cam Cameron 2 years ago. Team would have won the Super Bowl last year.

LMAO seriously NFL is investigating the slide by Tom Brady, when he made slight contact with Ed Reed. Brady has since called and appologize to Reed, but we all know Brady is top 3 in the most uncoordinated players in the NFL. Pollard (Yea that saint of a player) says Brady knew exactly what he was trying to do when he tried to clip Reed.

NFL, no clue why your wasting time on such a none factor play where nothing even happened........dont you guys got a Pro Bowl to worry about.....The world is watching lol

I honestly wouldn't think anything of the play personally, except for that extra leg kick/extending motion when he makes contact with Reed. Other players have been fined for similar plays during the year, I don't see why Brady shouldn't.

Originally Posted by JP Wasn't the Bronco's one of the leading defenses in the league while the Ravens sat in the middle of the field this year in defense ranking?

Way to read , Ravens had key defensive players out all year, while Denver was off playing the raiders and the chiefs twice.

Originally Posted by Nate Nanjo Manning and the Broncos put up 35 on the Ravens, that doesn't make the defense look very good..

Wow an elite QB put up lots of points dispite playing a good defense, unheard of.
I guess The 49's must have a bad defense also bad because Rodgers and Brady put up points against them.

Originally Posted by Nate Nanjo Flacco pretty much made the big play of that game with that last series with a minute left in the 4th quarter not the D.

You mean that lob up into the air to wide open recier, after the defense managed to get the ball back after only losing about 1:30 in time on the clock.

Originally Posted by Nate Nanjo You know what though, he has to face the 49ers defense which will probably be a lot more scarier than facing Baltimore's D.

I agree.

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu LOL...WTF??? Did you just suggest that the Texans and Bears don't have good defenses? Are you serious?

No just that they rather have some of Baltimores defensive talent, rather than a QB that is probably no better than the ones that the currently have.

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu The Ravens defense doesn't make Flacco complete 60% of his passes and throw 3 TDs with 0 INTs.

No he made some good plays on defenses known for giving up big plays. He also threw at least 3 ball straight in to the hands of the defenders with the game on the line and was saved by their inability to hold on or stay in bounds.

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu Sure, they're not numbers that blow you away. But he didn't make the mistakes that Peyton or Brady did either.

And Peyton and Brady where both up against a much better defense.

Originally Posted by n8rockerasu He's a solid QB and he makes the plays when he needs to. In today's NFL, that's good enough.

Which is my point, he is not elite, nor do the Ravens need him to be elite to win.

Originally Posted by itachiitachi Way to read , Ravens had key defensive players out all year, while Denver was off playing the raiders and the chiefs twice.

Webb is the only guy who was out all year. Suggs, Lewis, and Ngata were only about 70% healthy, but the rest of the Ravens players that had good years last year sucked this year, specifically the DL. They have been unable to destroy an offensive line with relative consistency all year. I will admit that Danell Ellerbe and Corey Graham have stepped up huge. Especially glad for Ellerbe since Baltimore wanted him gone last year.

Wow an elite QB put up lots of points dispite playing a good defense, unheard of. I guess The 49's must have a bad defense also bad because Rodgers and Brady put up points against them.

To be fair, Manning only put 21 points on the Ravens D. The other 14 points were on the normally-awesome special teams.

You mean that lob up into the air to wide open recier, after the defense managed to get the ball back after only losing about 1:30 in time on the clock.

And who else would be able to throw it like that?

No just that they rather have some of Baltimores defensive talent, rather than a QB that is probably no better than the ones that the currently have.

That is like saying the Saints want to trade for Kapernick because of the bad year. Nobody is going to trade for someone when they have the position filled. I highly doubt Denver would be willing to trade Dumervil or Miller for Suggs/Kruger or Bailey/Moore for Graham/Reed.

No he made some good plays on defenses known for giving up big plays. He also threw at least 3 ball straight in to the hands of the defenders with the game on the line and was saved by their inability to hold on or stay in bounds.

And? I have seen Manning, Brady, and Rodgers do that all the time. And Brees did that all year this year.

Which is my point, he is not elite, nor do the Ravens need him to be elite to win.

And how exactly DO they win then? The 49ers greatest strength on offense (their rushing) is the Ravens greatest weakness (their crappy run defense). The Ravens run game is a shell of its former self. Pierce has been great, but Rice has been a horrible runner this year and works best off of screen passes. The only the Ravens win without Flacco leading the way is if every ball bounced their way.

Originally Posted by DNukem170 Come now, people. Flacco was SitLite but he is rapidly approaching PreLite

What the is that shit? That article is so dumb.

Originally Posted by JP I honestly wouldn't think anything of the play personally, except for that extra leg kick/extending motion when he makes contact with Reed. Other players have been fined for similar plays during the year, I don't see why Brady shouldn't.

Agreed. It should at least be looked at by the league.

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Originally Posted by JP I honestly wouldn't think anything of the play personally, except for that extra leg kick/extending motion when he makes contact with Reed. Other players have been fined for similar plays during the year, I don't see why Brady shouldn't.

I agree with a fine, I mean Reed and Brady talked so it was water under the bridge, then His ravens teammate Pollard comes out and talks how Brady meant to do it, and it was a malisous act upon Reed. It had nothing to do with the Pollard, but he tries to put his two sense into everything.

Anyhow I see Payton is playing in the Pro Bowl, anywhere I can the lineup, trying to see if Brady or any other Patriots are playing in the game.

Nevermind found the pro bowl roster for Patriots.

-Brady (injured)
-Gronk (injured)
-Mankins (injured)
-Wilfork (injured)
-Welker (injured)
-Jarod Mayo (only Patriot who will play)

lol Belichick be killing it on these injury reports, not surprising since he put Brady as questionable(questionable) on injury reports every game for the pass 4 years.

Originally Posted by usickenme oh I am sure John Fox definitely cares about Flacco's play. Nice try though, One game doesn't make a career. Geez you probably think Dilfer should be in the HOF too.

Yes because that's totally what i said rotf stfu bro and hold that loss and stop being butthurt that Manning once again choked in the playoffs. Something that somehow only Denver fans were shocked to see happen.

Originally Posted by Poor2More I agree with a fine, I mean Reed and Brady talked so it was water under the bridge, then His ravens teammate Pollard comes out and talks how Brady meant to do it, and it was a malisous act upon Reed. It had nothing to do with the Pollard, but he tries to put his two sense into everything.

You say that like Pollard posted it on Twitter or something. He said it on his radio show here in Baltimore when asked about this play.

Twitter, facebook, radio, whats the difference?

Originally Posted by Poor2More Twitter, facebook, radio, whats the difference?

Because he didn't do it unprompted. Somebody asked him and he gave his honest answer on his own radio show. Would you be happier if he lied and gave a PC answer? Or are you one those people who believe all athletes should be mute?

Nothing wrong with Pollard's comment on something that happened to a teammate. Poor's just mad that Ridley tried to run Pollard over and got knocked out instead.

Originally Posted by usickenme oh I am sure John Fox definitely cares about Flacco's play. Nice try though, One game doesn't make a career. Geez you probably think Dilfer should be in the HOF too.

You do know that John Fox went to a Super Bowl and NFC Championship game with Jake Delhomme as his QB, right? Just because ESPN doesn't constantly state that someone is elite doesn't mean that they can't be a solid/great QB. A lot of good QBs have won Super Bowls.

The Ravens did to him what he did to the Bears in 06.

Originally Posted by DT778 Nothing wrong with Pollard's comment on something that happened to a teammate. Poor's just mad that Ridley tried to run Pollard over and got knocked out instead.

Your right

If you're talking top 4 QBs, you should probably nix Brees in favor of Rapelisberger since he's actually won a couple important games.

If we did that then we would have to take out Rodgers for Eli. Then we would have to rename the list "most super bowl wins by a current QB" and also take out Peyton.

Brady got fined $10,000 for his kick, which is $500 less than Frank Gore was fined for wearing his socks too low in the NFC title game.