The Flat Rats Bundle

Originally Posted by Idiotekque Off-topic, which should I give a whirl first? Sleeping Dogs or Dishonored?

Nice, 2 of my favorite games last year!
I think I'd probably play Dishonored first, as it's a bit shorter and offers a more directed (though still quite unlinear) path to the endgame. I found the overall combat vs stealth quite fun and refreshing (I didn't like Deus Ex HR that much as a reference), and the various methods of finishing stages made for some good short-term replay.

I think Sleeping Dogs is a great game as well in its own right, though even as an open world it suffers from extremely linear story missions which start to lack variety midway through the game. I still loved the story in some ways more than Dishonored, but that's because I like HK action movies. The combat was pretty fun and the characters were believable and enjoyable, in a HK movie sort of way (not in a realistic way haha).

Both games look incredible on PC and are great experiences, so you can't go wrong with either one, in my opinion.

Originally Posted by imac2much Nice, 2 of my favorite games last year! I think I'd probably play Dishonored first, as it's a bit shorter and offers a more directed (though still quite unlinear) path to the endgame. I found the overall combat vs stealth quite fun and refreshing (I didn't like Deus Ex HR that much as a reference), and the various methods of finishing stages made for some good short-term replay. I think Sleeping Dogs is a great game as well in its own right, though even as an open world it suffers from extremely linear story missions which start to lack variety midway through the game. I still loved the story in some ways more than Dishonored, but that's because I like HK action movies. The combat was pretty fun and the characters were believable and enjoyable, in a HK movie sort of way (not in a realistic way haha). Both games look incredible on PC and are great experiences, so you can't go wrong with either one, in my opinion.

Thanks, guess I'll give Dishonored a shot. (Thanks Motoki. )

Originally Posted by soulkyo The Flat Rats Bundle

Hahaha, that's pretty hilarious - Any CAG that truly wanted the infamous title probably picked it up when it was 50 cents during the Steam Holiday Sale.

Oh, but wait - This bundle includes FlatOut!

Originally Posted by elessar123 Revolvers > snipers with Mordecai. For the first playthrough, snipers + bloodwing works well. But eventually, it takes multiple headshots per mob to kill, and bloodwing's damage start sucking.

Thanks for that confirmation! I was wanting to go through with a revolver/bloodwing build.

Originally Posted by Mooby Even then any character should still be able to use most any weapon effectively. One thing you might have run into is that (even though quests might have been flagged normal) there is a brick-wall like resistance modifier where anything three levels or higher than you takes very little damage.

Right, the ammo limitation... also sometimes the right weapon for the job, Rakk problem? Ma, git da shotgun!

The preferred weapon mainly benefits from talents & class mod bonuses. Though playstyle comparability helps.

Originally Posted by Idiotekque I can confirm that Sacred 2 shouldn't need internet access/Capsule. Capsule does usually require constant internet access... for games that can be traded in. The client checks your account once a month to see if you've traded in any games or not, and removes access to them through Capsule. That's why the constant internet connection is necessary. If Capsule is only being used to download the game, and the game cannot be traded in, I'm relatively sure that you're not going to run into that issue with the game (hopefully). Regardless of what you think you're going to use, you end up just using all of the weapons. Why? You're going to run out of ammo and need to switch. Off-topic, which should I give a whirl first? Sleeping Dogs or Dishonored?

If you have some patience, Dishonored. If you don't Sleeping Dogs. I tried to play dishonored when I lacked (pretty totally) patience and I dropped it after a few hours. Sleeping Dogs I played through when feverishly sick and it was a very welcome distraction.

Hmm, is Sleeping Dogs a good game for $10 or has it been cheaper? It looks pretty good from the various videos I've seen. Any solid mods or technical differences that I should be aware of before buying it?

I was happy with sniper rifles as my main weapon throughout my BL experience but I fear we may be hijacking too much. I'd be willing to discuss this in more detail in some Steam Group forum... perhaps even set up time to dink around with some new characters if people are so inclined.

Originally Posted by ilikerice01 Hmm, is Sleeping Dogs a good game for $10 or has it been cheaper? It looks pretty good from the various videos I've seen. Any solid mods or technical differences that I should be aware of before buying it?

It's been cheaper twice during a Steam and GMG price mistake (Around $4.50 on Steam, and $11.90 with $6 credit on GMG). I don't know what you mean by technical differences, but I didn't play with mods. Yes, it's a good game for $10. If you don't mind waiting, it will get cheaper though.

Originally Posted by Syntax Error I was happy with sniper rifles as my main weapon throughout my BL experience but I fear we may be hijacking too much. I'd be willing to discuss this in more detail in some Steam Group forum... perhaps even set up time to dink around with some new characters if people are so inclined.

Yeah, we're definitely blocking all that Binding of Issac daily discussion. =p

Originally Posted by asheskitty It was on PC and Digital Download. I bought Contracts off Gamefly (at a good price) slightly before/after it got pulled. Hopefully it's simply matter of making that version available for sale again. (I seriously doubt PC will ever see an "HD" re-release, not that it should matter much for us.)

Oh yes of course that's right. Normally, they don't have to remaster games on PC since modders usually take care of that aspect.

Originally Posted by MysterD I doubt it, too - as usually PC version is of the highest-quality to begin with. It's the console-versions that normally get chopped-down (i.e. less graphic features and lower-texture quality).

That's right since there are so many talented modders.

Originally Posted by Motoki So this was posted in the Indie Game Stand thread but I figure some people might not check there and it's a game that is highly likely to get Greenlit thus getting in now gets you a Steam copy later for cheap. Cognition is the current Indie Game stand game. http://indiegamestand.com/ It's pay what you want, with a $1 minimum to get keys (so if you want a Steam key later make sure you pay at least $1). If you beat the Average, currently $1.43, you get a soundtrack and prequel comic. If you do Paypal and the game doesn't show up for you submit a support ticket and keep checking back as some people have had it show up for them after several hours. The issue is known by Indie Game Stand and they are working on it.

You got released! Welcome back!

Sleeping Dogs looks to be bottoming out pretty fast (along with most Squeenix games). If you don't want to play it right away I'm sure it'll be sub $10 sans glitched pricing in the next several months. Possibly even bundled with the new Hitman (that's also crashing fast) on Amazon.

Originally Posted by Mooby Sleeping Dogs looks to be bottoming out pretty fast (along with most Squeenix games). If you don't want to play it right away I'm sure it'll be sub $10 sans glitched pricing in the next several months. Possibly even bundled with the new Hitman (that's also crashing fast) on Amazon.

EU PS+ just got it for free.

They get all the nicest stuff...

Sort of wondering what's up with Square. Also makes me wonder why anyone would preorder a game for $35+ when they are dropping to $10-15 within four or five months with relative frequency these days.

Originally Posted by Mooby Sort of wondering what's up with Square. Also makes me wonder why anyone would preorder a game for $35+ when they are dropping to $10-15 within four or five months with relative frequency these days.

Maybe because most people who pre-order are shallow and only play the latest games. Just musing.

Originally Posted by Mooby Sleeping Dogs looks to be bottoming out pretty fast (along with most Squeenix games). If you don't want to play it right away I'm sure it'll be sub $10 sans glitched pricing in the next several months. Possibly even bundled with the new Hitman (that's also crashing fast) on Amazon.

I wonder what SE thought after their Amazing Amazon bundle sold through the roof, but pissed off most of the gaming internet. Tony said that pack would never return, so I wonder if they cut him off or something drastic. There's quite a few new or semi-recent SE games I'd be interested in (Sleepy Dogs, Absolution, Front Mission, Underworld, Legend).

Originally Posted by Mooby Sort of wondering what's up with Square. Also makes me wonder why anyone would preorder a game for $35+ when they are dropping to $10-15 within four or five months with relative frequency these days.

I can think of a few reasons.

1) Some people don't try to collect every game like we do, and only buy a few games a year, so picking up a new game they've been excited for at 40 bucks is just fine.

2) Being a part of the gaming zeitgeist can be fun.

3) If you're a huge fan of the series or genre and you just can't wait.

4) You like competitive multiplayer and want to get in while the community is still healthy.

I imagine part of their aggressive pricing is their equally aggressive nonsense DLC policy.

Just checked and it looks like Sacred 2 Gold is NOT DRM-free on Steam. If I launch the EXE file, it asks me to sign in to Steam, so it looks like that version of Sacred 2 is using the Steam DRM.

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Originally Posted by jshackles Just checked and it looks like Sacred 2 Gold is NOT DRM-free on Steam. If I launch the EXE file, it asks me to sign in to Steam, so it looks like that version of Sacred 2 is using the Steam DRM.

Could I trouble you Properties->Local Files->Verify Cache and recheck?

Two posts from Deep Silver slightly contradict.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/225640...1710563752357/
http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=3035114

It seems possible that Professor Pew's DRM-FREE statements are caveat to: "It still uses Steam's own DRM, because it's on Steam./" Games like Cherry Tree High Comedy Club (RPG Maker) and Vanguard Princess (Fighter Maker) didn't get Steam-DRM added though (and, like Sacred 2 Gold, are DRM-FREE on GG).

Originally Posted by jshackles Just checked and it looks like Sacred 2 Gold is NOT DRM-free on Steam. If I launch the EXE file, it asks me to sign in to Steam, so it looks like that version of Sacred 2 is using the Steam DRM.

Ah well, I must have misinterpreted. Thanks for checking.

Originally Posted by asheskitty Two posts from Deep Silver slightly contradict. http://steamcommunity.com/app/225640...1710563752357/ http://forums.steampowered.com/forum....php?t=3035114 It seems possible that Professor Pew's DRM-FREE statements are caveat to: "It still uses Steam's own DRM, because it's on Steam./" Games like Cherry Tree High Comedy Club (RPG Maker) and Vanguard Princess (Fighter Maker) didn't get Steam-DRM added though (and, like Sacred 2 Gold, are DRM-FREE on GG).

Probably when he's saying "without DRM"/"DRM free" he's meaning without additional DRM and just not clarifying that point. Most people on Steam don't care about Steam DRM, only 3rd party DRM. Some people actually don't even realize Steam is acting in a DRM capacity.