BTW, I've been trying Dark Souls again. I've gotten much farther than last time, but the amount of soul grinding required leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Morning, OTT.

Feels like I fell asleep Saturday and woke up this morning...What happened to Sunday?

Mornin.

Sunday was spent getting up early. Then taking a short nap before going into work. Where it was slow enough I was nearly able to finish my book.

In short, nothing of consequence happened. You didn't miss anything. Just skip Sunday, move on to Monday.

Tempting to stop by Wall Mart to check out the Lego clearance after reading the Lego deals thread here.

However, the rational part of my brain reminds me that Wal-Mart has little to no clearance, poor selection (PS2 sports games from 2005 for $19!). And going there just generally feel dirty inside and disturbed at the state of humanity.

Originally Posted by eldergamer Tempting to stop by Wall Mart to check out the Lego clearance after reading the Lego deals thread here. However, the rational part of my brain reminds me that Wal-Mart has little to no clearance, poor selection (PS2 sports games from 2005 for $19!). And going there just generally feel dirty inside and disturbed at the state of humanity.

I stopped by mine on a lark. They had one of the Harry Potter Lego sets on clearance (4736) and they had about 25 of them for an extra $2 off.
It did include dobby and a sock.
I didn't really expect to see any of the Friends sets, but I wanted to see if some of the avengers/marvel/dc ones might be had cheap.

Saw Zero Dark Thirty on Sunday. It's deserving of all the accolades. Great movie! Not that it's a shock. The Hurt Locker was fantastic too.

Originally Posted by crunchewy Saw Zero Dark Thirty on Sunday. It's deserving of all the accolades. Great movie! Not that it's a shock. The Hurt Locker was fantastic too.

The only problem I have with the movie is the controversy. I mean to have the film makers come out and say that the film doesn't promote torture is a bunch of bullshit. When half the movie is about torture and every lead character bitches out the end of torture and how it is a bad thing, then your movie is pro torture. One throwaway line about the intelligence errors made by America doesn't absolve the fact them from making a pro-torture movie.

I thought the movie was good, but I still like Hurt Locker more.

Probably old but:

I wonder if manthing got to see Prince's new band yet. That screwdriver song he just put out is pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9a6WwT9LNJw

The hat he wears in that video is the dopest hat I have ever seen.

Morning, OTT.

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback The only problem I have with the movie is the controversy. I mean to have the film makers come out and say that the film doesn't promote torture is a bunch of bullshit. When half the movie is about torture and every lead character bitches out the end of torture and how it is a bad thing, then your movie is pro torture. One throwaway line about the intelligence errors made by America doesn't absolve the fact them from making a pro-torture movie. I thought the movie was good, but I still like Hurt Locker more.

I don't agree with that at all. I don't know about you, but those torture scenes were disturbing. Depicting torture when you know it happened, is not the same as promoting it. It also doesn't make a bullshit claim that torture can not provide useful intelligence at all. What it does do is make you ask yourself if the end result was worth it. I think you are misreading the film.

Originally Posted by crunchewy I don't agree with that at all. I don't know about you, but those torture scenes were disturbing. Depicting torture when you know it happened, is not the same as promoting it. It also doesn't make a bullshit claim that torture can not provide useful intelligence at all. What it does do is make you ask yourself if the end result was worth it. I think you are misreading the film.

Depicting it is one thing, spending 60 percent of the movie on it is another. The argument about torture in this case is always going to end up boiling down to an ends justifying the means argument. Had they made this movie before Bin Laden died I would agree with more of your argument, but the end has a significant impact on how all other actions within the movie are framed.

That is why the hurt locker was a better movie to me. The context of the movie gave it a stronger platform for its argument.

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The torture stuff was very disturbing. I don't really see how it could be viewed as promoting it. The fact is that torture was part of this story, a significant part, and this movie shows that. It makes you feel very uncomfortable. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback I wonder if manthing got to see Prince's new band yet. That screwdriver song he just put out is pretty good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9a6WwT9LNJw The hat he wears in that video is the dopest hat I have ever seen.

Eh. Way to simple lyrically (for Prince) and he cuts back to the refrain too early and too often. It was a little catch and might grow on me, though.
I really doubt mainstream radio will pick it up. The band looks like it's just a girls he found outside on a cold day on Minneapolis.

Originally Posted by crunchewy The torture stuff was very disturbing. I don't really see how it could be viewed as promoting it. The fact is that torture was part of this story, a significant part, and this movie shows that. It makes you feel very uncomfortable. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Michael Moore wrote and interesting op-ed on it, and it was an interesting take- worth the read regardless of one's ideology.

Originally Posted by eldergamer Eh. Way to simple lyrically (for Prince) and he cuts back to the refrain too early and too often.

I agree but I still like it. It will garner some radio play, however I foresee the hits1/20on20/pulse satellite channels playing the shit out of it. They love that top 40 stuff where the melody & hook grinds until it's dull. I haven't heard the rest of the album so I can't speak to it, but I would bet this was the "safer" and most radio friendly single to release.

He isnt making albums. Just releasing singles. He doesnt have a record deal so he wont make a full length album.

Took the middle child to get a referral for an autism evaluation. She's no where near as autistic as her brother, but isn't quite normal either.

More on ZDT, there are some plot points discussed:

While I can understand why some people might not see the movie as pro-torture, the reading I took into it was that it was a pro-torture movie. Not only is a significant part of the movie focused on this aspect, but the torture doesn't have any repercussions on any of the individuals that commit it. Maya becomes completely desensitized to it and doesn't question it after she gets in the bubble. The main torture guy has a moment of reflection as he leaves, but it isn't about what he has done. It is a reflection about a ing monkey and the change in the administration. Neither character is impacted negatively in any way. There is no metamorphosis or dramatic change that demonstrates the impact of torture. There are two scenes where vital information is given where torture wasn't used, but the threat and deception were all built around torture. There is also very little analysis done on a computer or shown grunt work depicted. The structure of the film is torture, terrorist attack, terrorist attack, less than two minutes of maybe we ed up by just torturing guys, surveillance, dead Bin Laden. Chewy might be right about it forcing you to ask was it worth it, but the answer is always going to be yes. No one is going to say that killing Bin Laden wasn't worth it. That inherently ruins any anti-torture message they try and convey. They implicitly link torture to Bin Laden as the whole basis for how they catch him comes from torture.


Renner completely conveys the horrors of war and the impact it can have on a person in The Hurt Locker. Chastain is like ing Gordon Freeman. She is a vessel and not a real character, even though she is based on a real person. She is just some stoic being that goes with the flow as long as she can get her man.


I agree with a lot of what was said in this blog post:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...erica-20130116

Here's what I posted earlier, but put in the wrong thread.

From what you guys have been saying I don't see how that movie is pro-torture. Granted I haven't seen it, so I can't say from my own first hand knowledge.

Well, you should see it. Really, the movie is pretty riveting from start to finish, even though you know the outcome.