Originally Posted by mitch079 I'm beginning to think the Hulu Plus version of RAW is the way to go.

I just watch the YT channel.

Originally Posted by Spyder187 In a world where Vince McMahon suffers a broken hip from an F5 on Raw, ANYTHING is possible.... http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2013-01...ttack-26088187

lol his daughter looks like she is saying


Why dont you die already old man and let me have the business

I've been a big fan of The Undertaker for lot of years now. Having said that, the "End of an Era" match at last year's WM should have been exactly that. It is stupid to continue to have HHH and Undertaker wrestle matches after that, completely shitting on the idea of an era ending.

At least Cena/Rock II isn't going to devalue their WM match from last year.....

Rock vs. Cena at WM29: Once In A Lifetime (Part 2).

I prefer "Rock vs Cena: Second Time. Last Time. Only Time."

Rock vs Cena at WM29: Thank God it's not Batista again.

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Undertaker's last WM should not be him walking out arm in arm with DX. I'm perfectly fine if this year is his last one, but dude deserves a proper Undertaker send-off, not "Happy 90's Friendship Club in: Hugs Aplenty!"

I've said for a while now that Cena turning heel (during the match, like Austin at 17) and ending the streak would be pretty much the only scenario I'm good with as far as 'Taker losing. Don't think that's going to be in the cards anytime in the next 2 years, so safe to say that particular scenario isn't going to happen.

Cannot think of a scenario where Undertaker losing at WrestleMania would be acceptable. Cena beating Undertaker would be pretty awful. I don't care if Cena turns heel, face, toe, palm,...

People would have been upset if Triple H broke Undertaker's Streak(TM). Cena turning heel no way validates extinguishing over 20 years of continuity. And I like to think WWE could turn heel a very popular John Cena without shitting on The Undertaker. Why give the push to someone like John Cena?

He doesn't need the rub. If not Mankind besting Undertaker in one final, brutal, crippling, life-shortening, double-perma-retirement Hell in a Cell match, I don't want to even humor anyone beating Undertaker at WrestleMania. No one deserves it. Not Punk, Rock, Lesnar, Cena, Orton, etc. and so forth. Only reason I'd put Foley over Undertaker is because it would be a fitting, full-circle closure to both careers. Not that Foley can even walk, but in a world where Foley could still sit-up without requiring assistance, I'd be okay with Foley closing the loop.

The streak needs to be ended in a way that puts things right in the WWE universe, DDP beats him to end the streak and to make up for the BS they put him through. Maybe with help from Jake the Snake. Then DDP can fix him with Yoga.

Originally Posted by 007 Totally simple set-up. Punk rants in ring about beating Rock, Cena, everybody. Title reign. Unstoppable. Asks who can stop him, since there's no one left. Lights go out. Bell tolls. Crowd ing shits. It's the easiest set-up in the world. Taker returns to stop Punk. Worthy opponent. Best in the World, but not Best at WrestleMania. Whatever. Sure, you have to deal with what happens with Taker and the title after WM, but that's a whole other problem.

I got goosebumps just imagining that.

As far as the second part, have UT leave WM with the title and let him retire the next night on RAW and vacate the title. Your next PPV is a tournament for the vacant title where whomever wins feuds with whomever he faced in the tournament finals. Let that feud go a total of 3 PPVs and boom, we're ready to build to Summer Slam in whatever new direction has popped up in the meantime.

Originally Posted by vrs1650 The streak needs to be ended in a way that puts things right in the WWE universe, DDP beats him to end the streak and to make up for the BS they put him through. Maybe with help from Jake the Snake. Then DDP can fix him with Yoga.

And then Brian Lee Undertaker comes out and reveals he was actually the real Undertaker all along, has been in hiding since 1994, and he still hasn't been beaten at Wrestlemania. THE PHENOM IS THREE AND FUCKING ZERO.

I don't want the Undertaker to come back. Last year's match was unspeakably horrible and depressing. Let him go out at 20-0 with a lame finish.

Can't Cena just turn heel against Rock, like Austin at WM17? Have Heyman play the part of Vince. "Here Comes The Pain, Hustle, Loyalty, Respect, and Best in the WORLD" supergroup of Lesnar, Punk, and Cena, managed by Heyman. Storylines for the rest of the year.

Originally Posted by MisterModest Can't Cena just turn heel against Rock, like Austin at WM17? Have Heyman play the part of Vince. "Here Comes The Pain, Hustle, Loyalty, Respect, and Best in the WORLD" supergroup of Lesnar, Punk, and Cena, managed by Heyman. Storylines for the rest of the year.

And sink his merchandise sales? And ruin his 10th Million Make A Wish? Keep dreaming.

Originally Posted by kodave And sink his merchandise sales? And ruin his 10th Million Make A Wish? Keep dreaming.

That was in response to the fantasy booking of him turning heel and defeating Undertaker. I thought that was a better scenario (turning heel against Rock), than having him end the streak. I'm well aware he's not turning heel. No need to act like a stereotypical internet smark, knowing all about the "merchandise sales" and "teh biznezz" of pro wrasslin'.

Originally Posted by MisterModest That was in response to the fantasy booking of him turning heel and defeating Undertaker. I thought that was a better scenario (turning heel against Rock), than having him end the streak. I'm well aware he's not turning heel. No need to act like a stereotypical internet smark, knowing all about the "merchandise sales" and "teh biznezz" of pro wrasslin'.

And you're real helpful to keep things in context by replying to something brought up several posts above yours and not quote it when several posts preceding yours are discussing various aspects of Undertaker, and not Cena.

Also, I'm pretty sure the standard smark standpoint is still "OMG turn Cena heelz already." Why the hostility though? It's not even "knowing" or pretending to know about "teh biznezz" - its just common sense that someone like Make A Wish's top guy isn't going to turn heel any time soon if ever. Why even bother with the ridiculous fantasy booking scenarios? You could already write a book about scenarios where Cena could have or should have effectively turned heel if you ignore "teh biznezz" aspects of things. It's beating a dead horse at this point.

Originally Posted by kodave Why even bother with the ridiculous fantasy booking scenarios?

Hmm, I don't know, maybe to, uh, start one of those discussion things...? Since the last time I checked, I believe this is a discussion board. What the hell else is there to talk about? Rock/Cena II: <insert cooky ing smark line here> ?

There was talk at Monday’s RAW that one of the reasons The Undertaker didn’t make an appearance at the Royal Rumble is because he’s not so sure that he will work WrestleMania 29 now. The plan had been for Taker to wrestle CM Punk but WWE officials are still waiting on Taker’s decision. There’s a feeling among some within WWE that Taker will end up wrestling but the discussion at RAW was they may have to come up with another WrestleMania storyline for Punk. Source: PWInsider

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Originally Posted by HydroX Hmm, I don't know, maybe to, uh, start one of those discussion things...? Since the last time I checked, I believe this is a discussion board. What the hell else is there to talk about? Rock/Cena II: <insert cooky ing smark line here> ?

There are plenty of other things to talk about other than the fantastical magical mystical land where John Cena rules as heel supreme. Could it be that there are literally dozens of websites dedicated to posting information about the business where you could find other topics of discussion? Could it be that WWE alone has several hours of first run TV each that could be discussed beyond Rock/Cena?

But no, you're right, let's think of more ways to turn John Cena heel.

Maybe he could team up with Brodus Clay on Raw one week in a tag team match. They're victorious over the heel tag team. To celebrate, they all dance with the little kids when out of no where, John Cena hoists on of them up for the Attitude Adjustment. But he doesn't just AA the child in the ring. He AAs the child over the top rope to the floor below. The lights come on and everyone is in utter shock at why Cena would do such a thing. Brodus is on his knees pulling at his mohawk. The Funkadactyls are screaming in hysterics. Michael Cole is more deadly serious than when Lawler nearly croaked at ringside. Cena exits the ring and grabs Justin Robert's microphone. He slides back into the ring and cuts a promo where he decimates the joke that Brodus Clay has become. Cena says he's sick of this facade everyone is putting on. Cena is a true Boston Thug (tm) and seeing a fat glob of human excrement like Brodus Clay do the same schtick that Cena does in terms of being a good guy repulsed him on the deepest levels. Cena says he carried this company on his back for the past decade, and now it's time for him to do whatever he wants to do, as evidenced by the half-dead kid laying outside of the ring. There is no WWE Universe. There is no Hustle, Loyalty, Respect. There is just Cena, and Cena is going to do whatever Cena wants because he can. Rise above hate? No, no. Rise above this mediocrity. Cena says he's bigger than this company. Bigger than this industry. And there's nothing anyone can do about it. Smirk and shrug. Drop the mic. Cena strolls off. Now the Rock can represent the "people" and the "WWE Universe" 100% as Cena above it all. WrestleMania does 219043586795548984357 buys and Cena goes on a tear until Brodus Clay tasers him with a cattle prod at SummerSlam.


Or, you know, the Intercontinental Cup was cancelled today.

Originally Posted by kodave There are plenty of other things to talk about other than the fantastical magical mystical land where John Cena rules as heel supreme. Could it be that there are literally dozens of websites dedicated to posting information about the business where you could find other topics of discussion? Could it be that WWE alone has several hours of first run TV each that could be discussed beyond Rock/Cena? But no, you're right, let's think of more ways to turn John Cena heel. Maybe he could team up with Brodus Clay on Raw one week in a tag team match. They're victorious over the heel tag team. To celebrate, they all dance with the little kids when out of no where, John Cena hoists on of them up for the Attitude Adjustment. But he doesn't just AA the child in the ring. He AAs the child over the top rope to the floor below. The lights come on and everyone is in utter shock at why Cena would do such a thing. Brodus is on his knees pulling at his mohawk. The Funkadactyls are screaming in hysterics. Michael Cole is more deadly serious than when Lawler nearly croaked at ringside. Cena exits the ring and grabs Justin Robert's microphone. He slides back into the ring and cuts a promo where he decimates the joke that Brodus Clay has become. Cena says he's sick of this facade everyone is putting on. Cena is a true Boston Thug (tm) and seeing a fat glob of human excrement like Brodus Clay do the same schtick that Cena does in terms of being a good guy repulsed him on the deepest levels. Cena says he carried this company on his back for the past decade, and now it's time for him to do whatever he wants to do, as evidenced by the half-dead kid laying outside of the ring. There is no WWE Universe. There is no Hustle, Loyalty, Respect. There is just Cena, and Cena is going to do whatever Cena wants because he can. Rise above hate? No, no. Rise above this mediocrity. Cena says he's bigger than this company. Bigger than this industry. And there's nothing anyone can do about it. Smirk and shrug. Drop the mic. Cena strolls off. Now the Rock can represent the "people" and the "WWE Universe" 100% as Cena above it all. WrestleMania does 219043586795548984357 buys and Cena goes on a tear until Brodus Clay tasers him with a cattle prod at SummerSlam. Or, you know, the Intercontinental Cup was cancelled today.

So let's discuss it instead of being a keyboard warrior™ every time someone brings up something you don't like. Take that shit back to the Hastings thread where you like to think you're the end-all-be-all ruler of the world supreme.