Originally Posted by Jodou Now that you mention it, this makes me sad. It would mean they skipped an entire generation of consoles without a game. :(

I've got another one for you. Final Fantasy Vs 13. Announced before the console even launched.

Originally Posted by Blaster man I've got another one for you. Final Fantasy Vs 13. Announced before the console even launched.

Well, IF you count FFXIII as a proper sequel then at least PS3 got three games.

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I don't particularly care about better graphics, but like someone said, the memory increase will be a big deal to what they can do with games, especially online multiplayer.

Mass Effect 3, for instance, was gimped by the 360 and PS3's low memory. They'd have been able to do more if only they'd had twice as much to work with. Also looking forward to better framerates (hopefully). I'd love to see some series return to 60 FPS (looking at you, Insomniac)

PS3 still GOOD enough for me. Why release PS4! Not looking to spend extra $400 - $500 on new system. Release more GOOD GAMES

I'm very anxious to see this announcement and what the next generation has to offer us. I'll probably not purchase a new system until a deal or first price drop, but it doesn't lessen my excitement or curiousity any!

With a backlog as big as mine, it will take nothing short of Kingdom Hearts 3 for me to buy a new console within the next 4-5 years.

Originally Posted by ID2006 I don't particularly care about better graphics, but like someone said, the memory increase will be a big deal to what they can do with games, especially online multiplayer. Mass Effect 3, for instance, was gimped by the 360 and PS3's low memory. They'd have been able to do more if only they'd had twice as much to work with. Also looking forward to better framerates (hopefully). I'd love to see some series return to 60 FPS (looking at you, Insomniac)

I don't know about you but I want 60 FPS in 1080P. That IS graphics.

smart for them to annouce before MS & they should release 1st as well. be on shevles 1-2 weeks before black friday w/some heavy hitter software GTV5 would be a killer launch title along with a real metal gear, GT, AC...

Maybe they will announce a release date for EIGHT DAYS !

Probably going to wait at least a year (probably two) before I buy a PS4. The PS3 is really rolling right now as far as value and content and I really don't think I'll need a PS4 any time soon to get my Sony fix. My PS3 backlog is really outrageous and will last me quite some time...

I think the PS4 this year is one year too early, however perhaps Sony will put it out on the market (at a premium) at the same time as the PS3 in response to a new Xbox from Microsoft. I think the PS3 still has a good 2-3 years left in its tank and is one of the best gaming values out there.

Originally Posted by breakfuss Downloadable PSN games are indistinguishable from those on disc. The same hurdles still exist.

They said that about PS2 games... they'll probably take a similar approach. I don't know that much about the emulation process, is there a reason this can't be done with PS3 "Classics"?

Consumers will be pissed if they can't play all of their PSN games on PS4.

Originally Posted by Blaster man I don't know about you but I want 60 FPS in 1080P. That IS graphics.

I do, too. It's just that I don't consider resolution or framerate to be encompassed by the contemporary usage of the term 'graphics'. Many people don't even realize what resolution is when they talk about them.

But, yes, I would love if the PS4 could at least match my computer from 3 years ago.

The resolution issue was confounded by the fact that in this generation games ran at sub-HD resolutions. There was some false advertising there or many people were delusional, or both.

I hope it plays ps3 games. Bc gta v comes out in the fall. And I hope it 599 or less.

Originally Posted by Bxnextel I hope it plays ps3 games. Bc gta v comes out in the fall. And I hope it 599 or less.

Rumored hardware, would make both of those things nearly impossible to achieve.

Originally Posted by Bxnextel I hope it plays ps3 games. Bc gta v comes out in the fall. And I hope it 599 or less.

I don't care if it plays PS3 games (that's why I own a PS3). But it better not cost $599. There's no way they make that mistake again, especially if Xbox's new console releases around the same time.

I'm thinking $399. Competitive price point. Part of the reason the PS3 was so expensive was the BD drive was new tech at the time, that's not the case anymore. Will come with no game, but sport the new dualshock controller with some sort of touch interface built in. Release date November 4, 2013.

An easy argument for BC is that if a PS3 breaks people will be more likely to purchase a PS4 to replace it. This creates a bigger install base and causes the sale of software to increase as well.

A graphical leap isn't really necessary at this point unless Sony is going for high-end customers. "Good Enough" is what people respond to, but only if the games are great and the price is right (low in this economic situation).

Originally Posted by AdmrlBalls I don't care if it plays PS3 games (that's why I own a PS3). But it better not cost $599. There's no way they make that mistake again, especially if Xbox's new console releases around the same time. I'm thinking $399. Competitive price point. Part of the reason the PS3 was so expensive was the BD drive was new tech at the time, that's not the case anymore. Will come with no game, but sport the new dualshock controller with some sort of touch interface built in. Release date November 4, 2013.

That true. Bc when I bought my ps3 in 2006. The Blu ray player was 1000 dollars and my ps3 cost me 758 with a best buy plan. But it was still cheaper then a stand alone Blu ray player.

But why have the biggest game of the year gta v come out on sept. when the new playstation will come out less then two Months.

Originally Posted by Bxnextel But why have the biggest game of the year gta v come out on sept. when the new playstation will come out less then two Months.

God of War 2 came out 3 months after the PS3's launch for the PS2.