Claims PS4 announcement was made yesterday to further hurt Nintendo sales.
http://www.sidequesting.com/2013/01/...do-financials/

Originally Posted by skiizim I for one don't mind at all Nintendo going through this, they need a big kick in the ass.

I agree they need a kick in the ass, but i doubt anything will come of it. The Japanese culture is just so close minded and have such narrow tunnel vision, they'll be wondering how they failed when the ship sinks.

As for me, I played my DS a ton, and my 3DS started picking up steam. Last time I touched the Wii was when The Last Story came out -- in Europe. Because of that, I don't plan on purchasing a Wii U. My GF wants one, even though she never finished Twilight Princess, didn't play Skyward Sword, hates Mario games, won't play Mario Kart with me, didn't like the new Donkey Kong, etc. Added to that, I really hate Nintendo's account system. So I'm really trying to be adamant about not getting one. I'll admit, I want Bayonetta 2,but not if it'll cost me $450 after tax.

Most people, IMO, are just holding on to nostalgia and refuse to hear anything bad about Nintendo. I get that. I remember how awesome the NES and SNES were, which still has my favorite RPGs. But that ship has log sailed.

Originally Posted by Blaster man Best do it quick before everyone knows about the PS4. You can be sure Sony will advertise correctly.

ORLY?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUtR5R5_8Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFPgRsvGMfQ

Also keep in mind they killed their golden goose with Kevin Butler. They could have given him a slap on the wrist and continued on with those brilliant ads, but decided to fire and sue him instead.

Originally Posted by Blaster man Claims PS4 announcement was made yesterday to further hurt Nintendo sales. http://www.sidequesting.com/2013/01/...do-financials/

Prudent since they didnt get the chance to do so with the Wii

Originally Posted by Corvin ORLY? Also keep in mind they killed their golden goose with Kevin Butler. They could have given him a slap on the wrist and continued on with those brilliant ads, but decided to fire and sue him instead.

If a system's golden goose is a character in an ad campaign, there is a problem.

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In regards to marketing, sure. Nintendo's marketing is shit. Microsoft's is non-existent. Kevin Butler was a stroke of genius and made you sit up and pay attention.

Originally Posted by Corvin In regards to marketing, sure. Nintendo's marketing is shit. Microsoft's is non-existent. Kevin Butler was a stroke of genius and made you sit up and pay attention.

Then they sued him. They made need to find another spokesperson. Marcus PSP?

Originally Posted by Corvin In regards to marketing, sure. Nintendo's marketing is shit. Microsoft's is non-existent. Kevin Butler was a stroke of genius and made you sit up and pay attention.

I can't remember a single one of them. I just half-remember the creepy launch ads and that one live-action preview for PSASBR.

To be fair though the last video game commercial that I completely remember was the Mad World GoW one...that was brilliant.

At the end of the day the only things that matter to me is that the WiiU sold more units then the 360 and PS3 did at launch (and Nintendo didn't take a loss on each one) which is very good in the modern market and at some point there will be Mario, Zelda and Smash Bros games for it.

I think the days of mass hysteria for system launches are over and it will be interesting to see how the WiiU does when the PS and Xbox systems launch and have their post launch droughts. If Nintendo can have a decent library by then and a small price cut (I wouldn't look for one until then) to maintain a $100 price variation they will be fine.

Originally Posted by TheHammerGod At the end of the day the only things that matter to me is that the WiiU sold more units then the 360 and PS3 did at launch (and Nintendo didn't take a loss on each one) which is very good in the modern market and at some point there will be Mario, Zelda and Smash Bros games for it. I think the days of mass hysteria for system launches are over and it will be interesting to see how the WiiU does when the PS and Xbox systems launch and have their post launch droughts. If Nintendo can have a decent library by then and a small price cut (I wouldn't look for one until then) to maintain a $100 price variation they will be fine.

There already is a Mario game but point taken, which I completely agree with. Do you have numbers for this? I remember the 360 being impossible to find at launch and the PS3 was considered a dud.

I agree though that it will pick up steam when the Nintendo games start coming out. This thing is not going to be a dud in any way.

Originally Posted by TheHammerGod At the end of the day the only things that matter to me is that the WiiU sold more units then the 360 and PS3 did at launch (and Nintendo didn't take a loss on each one)

And why does that matter to you? Investor? As a gamer I just can't see how console sales figures matter in relation to each other. As long as X console sells well enough that third parties support it, then I don't see how it matters one way or another how the WiiU sells compared to the 360, PS4 or whatever.

Only thing that matters to me is that the WiiU doesn't become a paperweight as fast as the Wii did. As long as the first party games keep coming I'll be happy with my purchase.

Didn't the Wii have a lot of good games and only really became a "paperweight" after skyward sword came out and no other games really came out?

Really, the only thing important is answering this question: does this news cause Nintendo to do a SEGA and pack it in? The answer is not in the least. So, no biggie. Nintendo will work harder to smooth out the rough edges of the WiiU and get more games onto the system.

Originally Posted by Deader2818 Didn't the Wii have a lot of good games and only really became a "paperweight" after skyward sword came out and no other games really came out?

There ended up being a lot of good games, but the timing wasn't always consistent. For example, for a whole year before Skyward Sword came out, Nintendo released almost nothing. So, we got Mario Sports Mix, Fortune Street, and Kirby's Return To Dreamland as the other significant releases that year. The long dry spells were frustrating to fans.

Well what I mean is, from lets say, 06-10 there was a bunch of games to get. 11-12 was dry but that was due to end of the system. 4 years to become a "paper weight" doesnt seem very fast.

It really depended on what you were into. Other than ports, NoA got, in 2012:
Xenoblade
Last Story
Pikmin 2 (like 3 years late)
Mario Party
Rhythm Heaven

If new games for the Wii was your thing, you were boned, but it wasn't like Nintendo just released dust after Zelda.

Originally Posted by Deader2818 Didn't the Wii have a lot of good games and only really became a "paperweight" after skyward sword came out and no other games really came out?

I thought the Wii had tons of good games. Mostly Nintendo made though.

I would never claim that the Wii was great as someone's primary system, but there were honestly a hell of a lot of great games on it. It was already mentioned, but the timing was pretty inconsistent, which hurt things. If you owned a PS3 or 360, it was an incredible supplementary system.

But... yeah, I get that for a lot of people it 'collected dust', but I'd argue that the Wii had a line-up of exclusives that were certainly better than the Xbox and, at minimum, rivaled the PS3. They may not have been games like CoD, but that's not really why you should be buying a Nintendo system anyway.

Originally Posted by 007 I would never claim that the Wii was great as someone's primary system, but there were honestly a hell of a lot of great games on it. It was already mentioned, but the timing was pretty inconsistent, which hurt things. If you owned a PS3 or 360, it was an incredible supplementary system. But... yeah, I get that for a lot of people it 'collected dust', but I'd argue that the Wii had a line-up of exclusives that were certainly better than the Xbox and, at minimum, rivaled the PS3. They may not have been games like CoD, but that's not really why you should be buying a Nintendo system anyway.

Other than Borderlands and Fallout 3, I think my favorite game of the last generation was the Donkey Kong game. Absolutely loved it. I think that might be why I like the Wii though. I would rather play games like Donkey Kong, Kirby, Mario than your typical xbox shooter adventure game.

I think my current issue with Nintendo is the one thing that everyone is waiting for. Nintendo games. I won't deny that the Wii had some great games. Super Mario Galaxy 1+2 were brilliant. I played through and enjoyed Twilight Princess. Donkey Kong was great.

But....as a fan since the NES days the whole Mario game, old school mario game, paper mario, mario kart, mario sports, zelda game, animal crossing, smash bros. formula is really starting to lose it's luster. I want Metroid to matter again as well as Starfox. I want something new that isn't Wii Sports or a party game.

I'm taking a wait and see approach with Nintendo this gen. They are really going to have to prove to me their system is worth owning before I buy. Right now I don't feel I'm missing anything.

Originally Posted by schuerm26 Other than Borderlands and Fallout 3, I think my favorite game of the last generation was the Donkey Kong game. Absolutely loved it. I think that might be why I like the Wii though. I would rather play games like Donkey Kong, Kirby, Mario than your typical xbox shooter adventure game.

Yeah all these articles about how FPSes aren't coming out on Nintendo are just weird.