It wouldn't surprise me to see them concede a large-part of the core gamer market (namely hardware intensive IPs like FPSs) and produce a device that is more of a 4K oriented google TV box, with a 4 layer blu support, a la carte channels, primarily driven by it's own proprietary media digital distribution program (analogous to itunes) but still with the physical media option (especially with 4K on the horizon). Gaming then becomes a tertiary focus but still a core component with a gameplay and quality IP focus over graphics.

From a big picture standpoint it would suck for console gamers but might make sense for them if they could be the cheaper alternative (like the Wii was, but unlike the Wii embrace the next generation of TV resolutions) and gain more market share & faster then continue to make more $ on the mixed-media title distributions.

IDK, fun to speculate though. I like to see it push Durango to be more than the 360 was/is.

How old is the average gamer now (mid-thirties last I read) maybe it's a graying of the market strategy, following a consumer #s bubble. So it might need to be a device that would be suited for someone in their 40s during it's lifespan.

I think they need to figure out how to price the thing at $199. Otherwise it's not happening for me. Plus we only got a PS3 at xmas and both of our TVs are 720p (though I would like to get a better/bigger TV sometime this year... if we can afford it).

Originally Posted by Maklershed "Social features and the user experience will be two of the key focuses of the new console over raw hardware power" Ughhh *sigh* Guess what kids?! Remember how you loved the beautiful graphics of Killzone and Uncharted? Well forget about that nonsense! We have something even better! Now you'll be able to Tweet your high scores or post them on Facebook! Ever wanted to connect your trophies to Pinterest? Well you'll be able to do that with the PS4!

Yup. This doesn't surprise me at all. Social Media is huge right now. You can already have the PSN Store post every purchase you make on Facebook. (And maybe tweet too). I think some games might already let you share your leaderboard score to facebook.

And Sony or Microsoft would love for their consoles to be front and center in that. They'd probably rather make their money in microtransactions.

Then again, the PS3 was supposed to be a full-fledged entertainment center. "Use it as a blue-ray player! Stream music from your Sony PC! Watch TV on Netflix and Hulu!" That strategy actually if they had locked it down. and made it exclusive. Now you can get several TVs or blu-ray players internet ready and have netflix/hulu/etc pre-loaded.

It's pretty sweet that you don't need gold anymore to use Netflix. I hope Amazon video is like that soon.

Originally Posted by crunchewy I think they need to figure out how to price the thing at $199. Otherwise it's not happening for me. Plus we only got a PS3 at xmas and both of our TVs are 720p (though I would like to get a better/bigger TV sometime this year... if we can afford it).

You arent the target demo. From what I have read, that quadruple is actually more powerful than the double circle.

Originally Posted by munch It's pretty sweet that you don't need gold anymore to use Netflix. I hope Amazon video is like that soon.

I think it's just for three days as a promotional thing.

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki I think it's just for three days as a promotional thing.

Yep, you're right.

Escape From New York and Big Trouble in Little China tonight.

Escape From New York is awesome. Have you seen Dredd yet? Very 80s actiony feeling. Reminds me of an Escape from NY type movie in a way.

I LOVE escape from Ny. big trouble is okay too. who was playing it last night?

rather unsuccessful in farming the warrior. so far the best he's dropped is a homing electric leech. it's level fifty but the numbers are stupid low. is there any redemptive feature about this where I would want to keep it?

Anyone else hate Girls? People seem to love that show, and I just don't get it. I watched the first two episodes and thought it was ing terrible. Who wants to watch a show about a bunch of entitled brats? I don't mind a show with lead characters that are heavily flawed, but there has to be something redeeming in them. I guess that is some of these same problem I have with Mad Men (two seasons in and I have no opinion or feeling for Don Draper).

Originally Posted by Maklershed Escape From New York is awesome. Have you seen Dredd yet? Very 80s actiony feeling. Reminds me of an Escape from NY type movie in a way.

Is that the new Dredd movie? I haven't yet but it's on my list of things to do.

Originally Posted by guinaevere I LOVE escape from Ny. big trouble is okay too. who was playing it last night?

I was!

I still don't get why Snake would destroy that tape in the end.

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on justin.tv or something like that?

cause he's BA and can do what he wants.

Originally Posted by guinaevere on justin.tv or something like that? cause he's BA and can do what he wants.

Nope, on mike.tv. As in, on my tv, with my dvds.

I don't know, starting WWIII seems out of character for Snake. I mean, I know he's a badass and all, but he's not malicious.

Originally Posted by Temporaryscars Nope, on mike.tv. As in, on my tv, with my dvds. I don't know, starting WWIII seems out of character for Snake. I mean, I know he's a badass and all, but he's not malicious.

This is the same guy who sends the planet back to the stone age at the end of LA. He also makes three-quarter court shots on the basketball court with ease.

'ello, OTT!

Snow + Kids = Frozen/Calm kids

Originally Posted by Temporaryscars Nope, on mike.tv. As in, on my tv, with my dvds. I don't know, starting WWIII seems out of character for Snake. I mean, I know he's a badass and all, but he's not malicious.

Ah, thought you were broadcasting.

any input on the leech grenade?

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback Anyone else hate Girls? People seem to love that show, and I just don't get it. I watched the first two episodes and thought it was ing terrible. Who wants to watch a show about a bunch of entitled brats? I don't mind a show with lead characters that are heavily flawed, but there has to be something redeeming in them. I guess that is some of these same problem I have with Mad Men (two seasons in and I have no opinion or feeling for Don Draper).

Did you try it because of the Stern show?

Originally Posted by CaseyRyback This is the same guy who sends the planet back to the stone age at the end of LA. He also makes three-quarter court shots on the basketball court with ease.

Yeah, but wasn't that for everyone's own good or something?

He made those shots IRL. Kurt Russell is ing awesome.

Originally Posted by Temporaryscars Yeah, but wasn't that for everyone's own good or something? He made those shots IRL. Kurt Russell is ing awesome.

Damn straight. He made Captain Ron a good movie.