I don't leave feedback till I get it. Leaving feedback every time someone pays you is just a waste of time. A lot of the mega sellers especially from china have autobots leaving feedback once they have received it.

Originally Posted by gpgorbosjr If that guy messages me back with a different reason for returning the game I'll do it, but he said he wanted to return it because it didn't play on the 360. It does. Even if I didn't mention the return policy I still wasn't going to say yes based off of that one misinformed message.... As for the other ass clown who I "withheld feedback from". I'm sorry, but a transaction is NOT over until the buyer receives the item and properly handles any disagreements with it/how it was shipped. Even if they think I shipped their item out too slow (which I didn't) or was stupid for not immediately leaving them feedback (which I didn't), what they did is not proper procedure either. Leaving feedback on eBay is NOT mandatory. I would have left positive feedback once they got their item and didn't give me a hard time, as it is clearly obvious to me that the customer is a scumbag....but instead they get NO feedback, so whatever. If it was the feedback they cared about they would have handled it differently. I hate eBay. I use it because right now I need a little extra cash. As a matter of fact, now that my income tax has been returned and I've handled a quite expensive family issue I may not need it for a very long time. So, I will either stop selling very soon, or have no problem if they want to boot me off the site.

You don't have to apologize you can sell any way you'd like but I'm just trying to give you suggestions that would make your selling experience less agitated.

And I don't think any sellers are happy with eBay (except maybe Chinese exporters or eBay Diamond sellers like ToysRUs, Newegg, Buy, etc.) but it really is about adapting to policies.

You certainly don't have to leave feedback but buyers have grown to expect it and if t takes 5 seconds to leave it after you create a shipping label.

And I understand your point about the sale not being over but what do you gain by NOT leaving feedback? It's not like it is going to skew their feedback % as all they can receive is positives. All you're doing is just frustrating the buyer... again not a good thing.

Selling on eBay and unloading some of my junk has allowed me the extra money to buy more junk. I don't like any of the new policies except the "report a buyer" feature. But I know what I need to do to keep my account in good standing.

I just hate seeing sellers get upset over things like this when I feel like the issues could have been resolved better.

Originally Posted by TiKi2 I don't leave feedback till I get it. Leaving feedback every time someone pays you is just a waste of time. A lot of the mega sellers especially from china have autobots leaving feedback once they have received it.

Do you print your labels through eBay?(If not then what you're doing would be the definition of a "waste of time")?

If you do print your labels through eBay after the label prints there will be a link that prompts you to leave feedback. Click on it and enter one of the standard feedback messages.

I don't get the mentality of "I'm not going to leave feedback until I receive it". What does that accomplish?

Do you think you're protecting yourself? Or are you trying not to reward a bad a buyer? Just move on from that sale and look to the next one.

You don't have to believe me but by not leaving feedback all you are doing is creating more hassle for yourself later on.

This is the same type of mentality I would expect from the sellers who put "no international buyers" in their listing but don't ever put up blocks on their paypal account not to accept payments from international buyers.

Originally Posted by GBAstar You don't have to apologize you can sell any way you'd like but I'm just trying to give you suggestions that would make your selling experience less agitated. And I don't think any sellers are happy with eBay (except maybe Chinese exporters or eBay Diamond sellers like ToysRUs, Newegg, Buy, etc.) but it really is about adapting to policies. You certainly don't have to leave feedback but buyers have grown to expect it and if t takes 5 seconds to leave it after you create a shipping label. And I understand your point about the sale not being over but what do you gain by NOT leaving feedback? It's not like it is going to skew their feedback % as all they can receive is positives. All you're doing is just frustrating the buyer... again not a good thing. Selling on eBay and unloading some of my junk has allowed me the extra money to buy more junk. I don't like any of the new policies except the "report a buyer" feature. But I know what I need to do to keep my account in good standing. I just hate seeing sellers get upset over things like this when I feel like the issues could have been resolved better.

I like to leave feedback a day or two after the item is delivered. This way not only did they pay for the item (duh, you should do that), but they had a chance to come and complain to me if anything went wrong.

NOW, if a buyer wants me to leave feedback before the item is delivered I would gladly say yes IF A) they paid promptly B) they didn't threaten me for the feedback C) the auction went down for the most part in a non-shady way.

This buyer A) waited 4-5 days to pay and B) contacted me off the bat in what I consider a shady way, asking for immediate feedback and complaining about the item not being shipped when I have 2 day handling time.

As a matter of personal preference I don't like to leave positive feedback for someone who I know is going to give me a hard time. And if that means I get negative from them, so be it. But I'd rather get a negative from a buyer here and there than be telling the rest of eBay they are great buyers.

This buyer also had feedback like:

>>>Sellers BEWARE! Buyer will threaten to leave negative feedback!<<<

The point of feedback is to let sellers know what to expect from buyers. If you just leave positive feedback halfway through the process and ignore what happens once they get the item, or once they leave feedback for you, then you are not helping other sellers know what to expect.

Originally Posted by GBAstar Do you print your labels through eBay?(If not then what you're doing would be the definition of a "waste of time")? If you do print your labels through eBay after the label prints there will be a link that prompts you to leave feedback. Click on it and enter one of the standard feedback messages. I don't get the mentality of "I'm not going to leave feedback until I receive it". What does that accomplish? Do you think you're protecting yourself? Or are you trying not to reward a bad a buyer? Just move on from that sale and look to the next one. You don't have to believe me but by not leaving feedback all you are doing is creating more hassle for yourself later on. This is the same type of mentality I would expect from the sellers who put "no international buyers" in their listing but don't ever put up blocks on their paypal account not to accept payments from international buyers.

Doesn't matter how you want to slice it, it still is a waste of time. Why the does a buyer need feedback anyways, they get nothing but positives. If you think about it leaving a buyer feedback is just stupid as , no other online venue leaves buyer feedback excluding forums.

Im too scared to sell on ebay period. I dont want to sell something at the 100.00+ range and if the value drops within the return period and then they can return it for whatever reason and get that money back and keep the cheaper one.

Originally Posted by TiKi2 Doesn't matter how you want to slice it, it still is a waste of time. Why the does a buyer need feedback anyways, they get nothing but positives. If you think about it leaving a buyer feedback is just stupid as , no other online venue leaves buyer feedback excluding forums.

yup. I hate people that request me to leave them feedback. Ill do it for a person who has low counts, but otherwise who cares, once it gets to a certain point it doesnt even matter anymore, it wont make a difference, unless youre trying to slang 1,000 vitas.

Does anybody know how to get into contact with the postal inspection service? Not Ebay but I sold a 3DS on amazon a week ago and the buyer is insisting he never received it even though tracking says otherwise :/

Originally Posted by aptanor Does anybody know how to get into contact with the postal inspection service? Not Ebay but I sold a 3DS on amazon a week ago and the buyer is insisting he never received it even though tracking says otherwise :/

Either you or your buyer should fill this form out:

https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/forms/mlntrcvd.aspx


Did you have insurance?

Often times if the buyer is a scammer just letting them know that you are filing a report with the postal inspector and that they will be contacted to provide a statement is enough to get them to mysteriously find it with a neighbor.

Yeah I told him in my last message that I was going to contact the post office and if they can't locate it then I'll contact the PIS. I had $100 of insurance, thankfully.

Originally Posted by aptanor Yeah I told him in my last message that I was going to contact the post office and if they can't locate it then I'll contact the PIS. I had $100 of insurance, thankfully.

Was the insurance through the post office or through a 3rd party provider (i.e. shipsurance)?

You may need for him to cooperate if you purchased insurance through the Post Office. At the very least they will do an investigation so hopefully that will be enough for him to come clean if it truly wasn't misdelivered or stolen.

I like to give the buyers the benefit of the doubt but I have mailed many many many many packages over the years through USPS and have never had one legitimately go missing. Some arrive late, I've had one arrived damaged but I've never had one just disappear (domestically at least).

It's through the post office. I've never had a package dissapear either, which is why it makes me suspicious, especially when the tracking says he has it. The address was in a really strange format though, I'm not sure if it's an apartment building or what. Only thing I can think of is it's a complex and someone else in the building has it.

608 N FAIR OAKS AVE STE 130
PASADENA, CA 91103-4802

That's the address. Wasn't sure what STE 130 is :/

I also keep trying to call the post offices there. One keeps ringing and nobody answers, one must be off the hook because it's been busy all morning, and one goes to a dial-up or fax machine noise >:I

STE is short for "suite";

Have you checked google earth/maps? Is it an office building?

Google maps was no help, for that address it showed me what looked like a big plot of buildings from aerial view, but when I went to street view the closest it would show me was a home on the outside of the block :/ Leaving out STE 130 shows the same building.

Only thing I can think of is maybe it's a gated community with it's own street numbers.

They look like town homes, I was trying to look at the numbers off the street but if the idiot postal worker left it on the front doorstep. Some one could have taken it off the streets, I found 608 but couldn't read the numbers on the front door.

Originally Posted by gpgorbosjr A picture says 1000 words. 3 pictures says WTF! So I take a long time to ship but it arrived on the first estimated date? OK. HOW the hell do you run a company the scale of eBay which lets buyers leave low DSR for shipping/handling when they item CLEARLY was shipped and handled properly and you have PROOF of it.

calling your buyer scum does not impove your overall standing, nor does it help when other buyers are looking at you and giving you the benefit of the doubt

Originally Posted by aptanor Does anybody know how to get into contact with the postal inspection service? Not Ebay but I sold a 3DS on amazon a week ago and the buyer is insisting he never received it even though tracking says otherwise :/

so you sold a 3ds without signature confirmation.....

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Personally, I always add signature confirmation for items that are $100 and above.
$2-3 well spent for scum protection and added peace of mind.

Originally Posted by Chedeng88 Personally, I always add signature confirmation for items that are $100 and above. $2-3 well spent for scum protection and added peace of mind.

If this was an eBay sale (I believe he said it wasn't) it wouldn't matter; as long as the USPS delivery confirmation number showed as "Delivered" to the same zip code as what was on the original PayPal invoice then he would be covered regardless what the buyer claimed as an INR excuse as long as the purchase was less then $250.

Signature confirmation is only required for purchases over $250 and besides peace of mind it doesn't give you any extra protection on purchases with a values less then $250.

It does cost more and could delay delivery if the buyer isn't home. I would have to imagine that "porch snatchers" make up a very small percentage of mail fraud

I think Amazon is different, if I remember correctly from what people have posted. Amazon doesn't give a crap what the usps tracking says since it only says delivered in the zipcode and doesn't really prove much.