Originally Posted by spatenfloot Who says they can't announce both?

Maybe the vita is the PS4 and we have had it all along.

Originally Posted by rawer What are the chances that the sale on Dark Souls' DLC is a last ditch effort to get some digital sales before they announce the U.S. release of Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition?

I really prefer GOTY or "Complete" disc edtions over any DLC sale (I'm not comparing but I have not even bought vanilla Skyrim yet because of this) but I think I've waited long enough for the U.S. "Prepare to Die Edition", so after doing a quick search I couldn't find any proof of this edition hitting america in the next few months, so I decided to finally buy the DLC. Also "Artorias of the Abbys" is the only DLC for Dark Souls so spending $7.50 isn't that regretful

Originally Posted by FerDK I really prefer GOTY or "Complete" disc edtions over any DLC sale (I'm not comparing but I have not even bought vanilla Skyrim yet because of this) but I think I've waited long enough for the U.S. "Prepare to Die Edition", so after doing a quick search I couldn't find any proof of this edition hitting america in the next few months, so I decided to finally buy the DLC. Also "Artorias of the Abbys" is the only DLC for Dark Souls so spending $7.50 isn't that regretful

The sale on the Dark Souls DLC is a steal since you can get the game new for $19.99. The DLC is fun and adds more deaths.

Dark Souls II is going to be epic.

Originally Posted by prayformojo Maybe the vita is the PS4 and we have had it all along.

This isn't nintendo...

Originally Posted by CaptainEnforcer Maybe Playstation's February 20th announcement will just be a simple Vita price drop, I'm thinking $199.99? Would you be more excited that there's a Vita price drop or more disappointed that there's no PS4 announcement yet?

$200 with a memory card if they're smart, and a free 1-3 month voucher for Plus. Vita at MSRP right now is a terrible value, especially when the 3DS has so many digital pack-in bundles for no extra cost. I know Vita bundles have come out too but $250 is just not consumer friendly. Its almost laughable that Sony came out at the same price point that wasn't feasible for Nintendo, when Nintendo has a stronger brand, and doesn't require an extra purchase (ie memory cards) to actually use the system. The Vita should have had 512mb of solid state memory for saves so it could be played out of the box like the 360 did, no question.

And I say all this as someone who really loves the Vita and wants it to succeed. I just can't believe they made such a nice system and then ed up so much of the delivery.

Originally Posted by johnnypark $200 with a memory card if they're smart, and a free 1-3 month voucher for Plus. Vita at MSRP right now is a terrible value, especially when the 3DS has so many digital pack-in bundles for no extra cost. I know Vita bundles have come out too but $250 is just not consumer friendly. Its almost laughable that Sony came out at the same price point that wasn't feasible for Nintendo, when Nintendo has a stronger brand, and doesn't require an extra purchase (ie memory cards) to actually use the system. The Vita should have had 512mb of solid state memory for saves so it could be played out of the box like the 360 did, no question. And I say all this as someone who really loves the Vita and wants it to succeed. I just can't believe they made such a nice system and then ed up so much of the delivery.

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Originally Posted by johnnypark $200 with a memory card if they're smart, and a free 1-3 month voucher for Plus. Vita at MSRP right now is a terrible value, especially when the 3DS has so many digital pack-in bundles for no extra cost. I know Vita bundles have come out too but $250 is just not consumer friendly. Its almost laughable that Sony came out at the same price point that wasn't feasible for Nintendo, when Nintendo has a stronger brand, and doesn't require an extra purchase (ie memory cards) to actually use the system. The Vita should have had 512mb of solid state memory for saves so it could be played out of the box like the 360 did, no question. And I say all this as someone who really loves the Vita and wants it to succeed. I just can't believe they made such a nice system and then ed up so much of the delivery.

That's funny because when the Vita's price was first announced, everyone was going nuts and saying how it was so cheap for what we're getting and so on and so on. It wasn't until the 3DS price drop that all of a sudden, the Vita is way overpriced and blah blah blah.

Originally Posted by CaptainEnforcer Maybe Playstation's February 20th announcement will just be a simple Vita price drop, I'm thinking $199.99? Would you be more excited that there's a Vita price drop or more disappointed that there's no PS4 announcement yet?

There is no way a press conference/event have been scheduled to announce a price drop.

Originally Posted by aaronrodgers Wondering if I should get Dissidia since I plan to transfer it to a PSP and play with Component cables and a dualshock...

Wait, wait, wait! You can play Dissidia with a dualshock? How? I'd love to do so, instead of using the crappy PSP analog nub.

Just as a heads up too, the FFV has some emulation problems when ran on the PSP. Screen goes all glitchy like a old dusty NES cart.

Probably works just fine when played on the PS3, however.

Originally Posted by SolidSnake86 Wait, wait, wait! You can play Dissidia with a dualshock? How? I'd love to do so, instead of using the crappy PSP analog nub.

Psp go

Originally Posted by thefurrypanda Psp go

Crap. I have a PSP 3000. If I knew I could play with a PS3 controller I would have traded it in for a PSP Go ages ago.

$50 at Gamestop if you can find it. Great little piece of tech.

I'm hoping that the PS4 releases with backward compatibility for PS3 games and because of the extra RAM and upped hardware, all of them will be remote playable from the start.

Since the shadier side of the interwebs have already proven that remote play is nothing more than a toggle flag on game executables, I wouldn't find it hard to believe that if there was BC on the PS4 with PS3 games, all of our vitas will be instantly remote playing our 3's catalog.

Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 That's funny because when the Vita's price was first announced, everyone was going nuts and saying how it was so cheap for what we're getting and so on and so on. It wasn't until the 3DS price drop that all of a sudden, the Vita is way overpriced and blah blah blah.

That was industry talk though... when it all came down the buyers said otherwise. As long as it's not selling it's overpriced. That's the truth... buyers set the value not the sellers. Why do you think the 3ds price drop happened? For the same reason a vita one will. It's not selling...

Originally Posted by KryllFood I'm hoping that the PS4 releases with backward compatibility for PS3 games and because of the extra RAM and upped hardware, all of them will be remote playable from the start. Since the shadier side of the interwebs have already proven that remote play is nothing more than a toggle flag on game executables, I wouldn't find it hard to believe that if there was BC on the PS4 with PS3 games, all of our vitas will be instantly remote playing our 3's catalog.

They've already proven that because of the hardware switch (for the best) they'd have to include the original PS3 hardware along side the new PS4 hardware to have BC. It'll be a mess and not worth it... just hold on to your PS3. The bigger issue will be digital sales that won't be BC compatible and inaccessible from your old console after they switch the network over. If the PSP is any indication, that won't happen for a really long time if ever. So, we shouldn't have anything to worry about as long as you hold onto your PS3.

Originally Posted by gettinmoney662 That's funny because when the Vita's price was first announced, everyone was going nuts and saying how it was so cheap for what we're getting and so on and so on. It wasn't until the 3DS price drop that all of a sudden, the Vita is way overpriced and blah blah blah.

Yes. Price was applauded. But they failed to mention we needed mem cards and they would charge us through the nose for them. Kept that a bit of a secret.

Originally Posted by Woocls They've already proven that because of the hardware switch (for the best) they'd have to include the original PS3 hardware along side the new PS4 hardware to have BC.

That was due to an intentional design just like with all these new consoles. If they are smart, they would have used all this lead time on creating the PS4 to also play PS3 discs with less overhead than the PS2>PS3 generation change over (digital purchases can just be played via software emulation). So it is entirely possible that this next waves of Sony/MS consoles will "play nicer" with previous generation games.

EDIT: If they were REALLY smart and they aren't able to cheaply make PS3 discs play on the PS4 they could offer a disc swap for digital code offer. Then all they need is software emulation which is much cheaper.

Originally Posted by JCrichton That was due to an intentional design just like with all these new consoles. If they are smart, they would have used all this lead time on creating the PS4 to also play PS3 discs with less overhead than the PS2>PS3 generation change over (digital purchases can just be played via software emulation). So it is entirely possible that this next waves of Sony/MS consoles will "play nicer" with previous generation games. EDIT: If they were REALLY smart and they aren't able to cheaply make PS3 discs play on the PS4 they could offer a disc swap for digital code offer. Then all they need is software emulation which is much cheaper.

The disc problem (blu-ray) is the cheapest part of the whole mess. The real issue is forcing something that's not a cell-processor to behave like one. That's why digital vs disc doesn't change the emulation problem.

Both ps4 and next box are going anti used so both will have big hard drives and you'll buy a game physically with a cdkey like on the PC or buy games digitally. Sony wants their next to be socially driven so their network experience is going to come with more hand holding and share options ala Xbox live. The controller should look like a DS3 with dreamcast/wiiu touchscreen built in. I'd also not put it past them to rip off the kinect in some way.

I know this now was just a pipe dream, but I really thought they were going to make all PSN games (true PSN games, not full PS3 games) available to play on both PSN and Vita with one price. I would have bought a Vita day one if they did that. Or if they could have made more of a push for cross buy with more games offering it. As it now mobile gaming is dead except for mobile phone games.