Originally Posted by Finger_Shocker Yes and police never kill innocent people and cover it up....

I think you watch too many movies.

Originally Posted by perdition(troy Have higher knife deaths?

That statistic doesn't count. Stop comparing apples to oranges.

Originally Posted by elessar123 I think you watch too many movies.

I think you don't watch enough NEWS ..

And yes that totally justify the cops shooting out a car, that they ASSUMED was possibly the "bad" guy...

Originally Posted by perdition(troy Have higher knife deaths?

Assuming you're talking about the UK, the overall murder rate is still 1/4 that of the US'. The roll-eyes apples-to-oranges is overall violent crime.

Originally Posted by Finger_Shocker I think you don't watch enough NEWS .. And yes that totally justify the cops shooting out a car, that they ASSUMED was possibly the "bad" guy...

Did you read the actual news? There was no cover-up. They saw a truck matching the description near a house they were guarding that was driving slow and without headlights on. Did they behave poorly? Yes. But it wasn't completely unwarranted. You would have done the same thing in their shoes.

Originally Posted by elessar123 Did you read the actual news? There was no cover-up. They saw a truck matching the description near a house they were guarding that was driving slow and without headlights on. Did they behave poorly? Yes. But it wasn't completely unwarranted. You would have done the same thing in their shoes.

Yes and I would be arrested for reckless endangerment right after...

I guess those cops will be arrested right after this emergency lockdown ends. I guess because of this emergency, the cops have full authority to knock down and go door to door on private property, and do whatever is necessary with pure impunity

Yes and the LAPD is such a honorable police force, never have they ever been corrupt.

You live in CA, maybe you remember the RAMPART scandal.

Originally Posted by Finger_Shocker Yes and I would be arrested for reckless endangerment right after... I guess those cops will be arrested right after this emergency lockdown ends. I guess because of this emergency, the cops have full authority to knock down and go door to door on private property, and do whatever is necessary with pure impunity Yes and the LAPD is such a honorable police force, never have they ever been corrupt. You live in CA, maybe you remember the RAMPART scandal.

Not that I agree with what you are saying, but you give them this power when you put the entire burden on them to defend us when a lot of us are perfectly capable of defending ourselves.

You don't like the power they have? Stop giving them more.

Originally Posted by Knoell Not that I agree with what you are saying, but you give them this power when you put the entire burden on them to defend us when a lot of us are perfectly capable of defending ourselves. You don't like the power they have? Stop giving them more.

Yes we give them power, but that power should be limited...

Checks and balances.

And yes if we give them power, they have a even greater responsibility to use it properly, they should mandate all PO to read spiderman comics . Which sadly is not the case these days.

Originally Posted by Finger_Shocker Yes we give them power, but that power should be limited... Checks and balances. And yes if we give them power, they have a even greater responsibility to use it properly, they should mandate all PO to read spiderman comics . Which sadly is not the case these days.

That isn't the case though.

You are giving them greater responsibility, but telling them to as a collective act flawlessly, and to know the future or else gtfo.

So I had a bit weirdness happen just now on the way home from work. I work overnights and this was 5am, I stopped at the grocery store, did a little shopping, and as I was walking out the alarms went off throughout the whole plaza. I stood there looking around like "I didn't do it." and kept standing there waiting for someone to come looking. As I was waiting I noticed an old man, walking between the entrances (each on either side of the entry way, a good 200 feet apart.). He would keep walking back and forth, and on his way back he would take a cart and walk out of the store and down the whole plaza, and then walk back put the cart back, and walk back and forth between the entrances again. It was like he is stuck in a loop, or something. Keep in mind, I live in Buffalo New York and we just got about a foot of snow dropped on us, it isn't exactly hospitable weather to be wandering in.

So noone is showing up for the alarm, so I start walking to my car with my cart, and I keep looking back, hoping the old man will break the loop. Nope, so I sit in my car thinking I should go ask if he is ok. He says, "Yep!" and keeps walking. So I go back to my car and sit there watching, and he keeps going. Finally some store managers come looking because of the alarm. Everyone ignores the old man, and they go back inside. Then the police come, and I think maybe they will notice as they are investigating what caused the alarm to go off. Nope. They just walk around shining lights into store windows and such as the old man walks right past them.

Finally I get out of my car again and walk up to the cop, and tell him that I think this old man needs help. He has been walking back and forth endlessly over and over again. He say's he will check on him, the next time he walks by. As I'm walking back to my car I hear him ask him if he needs something and the old man says no and keeps walking. Cop goes back to what he is doing hopefully keeping in mind that this old man is still walking back and forth. I still don't feel 100% confident someone will take care of this old man, but I work at a bank I don't know who to call. The authorities know, the only other people I can think of that can help would be a hospital or ambulance of some sort. But I would think the Police would call someone, and I really hope they will, because I was getting far too many looks just sitting in the parking lot watching while they were investigating, it is 5am after all and I was kind of sticking out, so I left.

So on my way home, I see cop headlights behind me, going a lot faster than me, especially in this hell of a storm thats happening, so I know it's a cop. I think, oh maybe he's just in a hurry, but no, he follows me all the way home and sits in the intersection at my street and watches me pull into my driveway and bring my groceries into my house. The only thing that made him move from the intersection was a car behind him.

So all in all, I really hope someone helped that old man, because about 10 cops seemed to be doing a whole lot of nothing except ignoring him. And that isn't meant to bash cops either.

I bet the NRA thought this would've all blown over by now...

Originally Posted by elessar123 Did you read the actual news? There was no cover-up. They saw a truck matching the description near a house they were guarding that was driving slow and without headlights on. Did they behave poorly? Yes. But it wasn't completely unwarranted. You would have done the same thing in their shoes.

It wasn't matching the description. If that is what you would do I hope you aren't allowed near firearms.

Originally Posted by Strell Obviously the solution is to clone everyone in America and do a buddy system. You and your clone will be inseparable. One of you is evil. But only the scientist who made you knows! And sometimes, that scientist's evil clone made you, and if you ask him, he'll lie! But we're getting off track here. See, now you have TWO people with guns. Because, because you see, then there's a good guy with a gun for every bad guy with a gun! And as I've been told so many times before, whenever someone starts ing shit up, the good guy steps in and becomes the hero! Everybody wins! That way only bad people die from shootings! Gosh, I'm disappointed none of you other people are smart enough to think up this ....*snicker*...bullerproof plan! Bhwahahahahaha!

You know, that might have been funny... if you hadn't spelled "bulletproof" wrong.

Originally Posted by Strell I have more to add to my masterful plan of dealing with guns. See, I heard somewhere - and I forgot where - that women who are raped can shut down their bodies and not be affected by it. OBVIOUSLY we all just need to activate our internal termination process when getting shot. That way nothing bad will happen. Unless you are evil, in which case you don't need to turn anything off. You can die. Also we should just stay away from bullets at all times. If you see one flying toward you, just politely move in some other direction. That way, you aren't asking for it anymore, even though all clothing and human flesh tastes delicious to bullets, who salivate at the very thought of ravaging your life force. As an extension to this, children can just hide under their desks, which is statistically the safest place in the world. I probably need a third prong to really solve this. OH. The X-men. There, done.

Are you tying all this while having a seizure? Because it sure looks that way.

I know you're being sarcastic, but none of this is amusing.

Hey guys
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...hool-security/

Arpaios and Steven Seagal is teaming up to protect your school

Its glad to see Seagal taking a break to help out LEO when he is not at home abusing his wife

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Originally Posted by Fukurou Are you tying all this while having a seizure? Because it sure looks that way. I know you're being sarcastic, but none of this is amusing.

You know, that might have been funny... if you hadn't spelled "tying" wrong.

Originally Posted by Strell You know, that might have been funny... if you hadn't spelled "tying" wrong.

This is the exact reason why I never play grammar police. It never ends well.

Oooo, new blood, this should be good.

I feel pretty embarrassed this happened in my neck of the woods. Hard sometimes to ask for more gun laws and enforcement when the ATF bungles things as bad as they did here.

Just the start of the article.

"The door had no deadbolt. The few scratches and marks told police the men had little trouble prying it open. Hard to believe it was all that stood between the burglars and a storefront full of goods belonging to federal agents running an undercover gun sting.

And who would imagine the thieves would have unfettered access to the place for three days, propping open the door with a shoe and returning the next day with a moving truck to finish the job?

But that's what happened as burglars hit the ATF's Fearless Distributing storefront in Milwaukee's Riverwest neighborhood in October, making off with nearly $40,000 worth of merchandise - maybe more, according to interviews with neighbors and police reports newly obtained by the Journal Sentinel."

The only redeeming part of this is that it was not guns that were stolen.

http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/wat...rt=oldestfirst

Originally Posted by cancerman1120 The only redeeming part of this is that it was not guns that were stolen.

They did have guns stolen. They lost three guns, one being a fully automatic rifle. Their SUV was broken into and the full auto rifle is still out there.

Originally Posted by Mad39er They did have guns stolen. They lost three guns, one being a fully automatic rifle. Their SUV was broken into and the full auto rifle is still out there.

Sorry that was a separate thing that happened a few weeks prior. I read the article yesterday and I forgot about the SUV break in. That makes it even worse.