I think the newest Bond movies are too much like any other action movie. They lost their charm.

Man I used to be a CAGcast diehard but my enjoyment of the show lately is limited.

I used to be a Wombat defender but he really grates on me lately. He's so self-obsessed you can almost hear him singing the meow mix song to fill the time before everyone else shuts up and he can talk again. It's laughable how he falls over himself to tell you how me met some developer or saw a demo at some event... you're playing what? Oh I know that game .. me me me me ME! Maybe I didn't notice or wasn't bothered by Wombat before since he was kind of a secondary voice on the show but since he started his own podcast he's switched over to host Wombat mode and has more or less commandeered the CAGcast. I guess this is the ambitious, bringing his A-game Wombat. I think I prefer the beaten down, satisfied with feeding on scraps Wombat.

Cheapy is fine. His passion for gaming seems a bit lukewarm lately. Does he only play driving and indie PC games now?

Shipwreck actually plays games so that gives him 1,000 bonus points over his co-hosts. On the other hand he seems a lot more cynical than before which has bothered me lately.

Well, just one man's opinion! I wanted to get that off my chest for some reason. Been listening to the show for 5 years or so.

Originally Posted by Jasper Kazai Shipwreck said that the Dualshock 4's lightbar thing was what the 360 controller has now... no, it's not. The 360 controller's lights indicate what player you are, yes - but the Dualshock 3 already has this indication as well. There's 4 lights on the top of the controller (near L1) that indicate what player you are. This lightbar thing is something totally different. I think what Sony means is that the color will change based on what literal color your in-game character is or something. I don't know - it sounds unnecessary. I'm not defending the feature, I'm just saying that it's something the 360 does not have currently.

@Jasper

I believe you are correct on both points. Yes, the original sixaxis--like the 360 light wheel--had a light corresponding to which player 1 through 4 you are in game. And, yes, this will carry over to the 'move lightbar' insomuch (for example if you're playing Madden) that the circle under the player you're playing as in game will be the same color as the move lightbar color glowing on the dualshock controller you're using so that it is easier to tell who is who ingame.

What do you think Xbox has to do to one up Playstation?

Eventually the Wii U games pile up and the price drops and voila, the system is attractive.

Right now, in addition to what Ship said, a lot of people think the Wii U is just a Wii bundle like a Wii with a uDraw packaged in or something.

Yes it isn't going to be a western AAA console. But it isn't going to die out like a Dreamcast either. Nintendo isn't losing a ton of money on the thing so they wont be forced to abandon it anytime soon. One game sold per Wii U and they make money according to Reggie.

There is good reason to buy ports on the Wii U even if you have the other systems. The split screen play is better. You can play the game on the controller when you or someone else wants to watch tv. The online play is free and everyone can have their own account. And the ports will have some additional controller features.

Originally Posted by Dani8l What do you think Xbox has to do to one up Playstation?

Assuming the leaked specs are true (they almost certainly are), they can't "beat" them from a hardware standpoint.

But most of the games will be multi-platform which would mitigate that.

The rumors about "always on" net requirement and the used games thing are not getting them off on the right foot.

Will MS's first party games be more compelling than Sony's? And will whatever multimedia/social functionality they have cooked up be more desirable than Sony Share?

Originally Posted by butaneko Man I used to be a CAGcast diehard but my enjoyment of the show lately is limited. I used to be a Wombat defender but he really grates on me lately. He's so self-obsessed you can almost hear him singing the meow mix song to fill the time before everyone else shuts up and he can talk again. It's laughable how he falls over himself to tell you how me met some developer or saw a demo at some event... you're playing what? Oh I know that game .. me me me me ME! Maybe I didn't notice or wasn't bothered by Wombat before since he was kind of a secondary voice on the show but since he started his own podcast he's switched over to host Wombat mode and has more or less commandeered the CAGcast. I guess this is the ambitious, bringing his A-game Wombat. I think I prefer the beaten down, satisfied with feeding on scraps Wombat. Cheapy is fine. His passion for gaming seems a bit lukewarm lately. Does he only play driving and indie PC games now? Shipwreck actually plays games so that gives him 1,000 bonus points over his co-hosts. On the other hand he seems a lot more cynical than before which has bothered me lately. Well, just one man's opinion! I wanted to get that off my chest for some reason. Been listening to the show for 5 years or so.

Does Wombat grind your gears?

There sure is a lot of negativity in this thread. Can't wait to hear what comments get read out next week. I personally thought this was definitely one of the more focused shows in a while and that probably has a lot to do with there being something to talk about. I can understand some listener frustration that Cheapy, Shipwreck, and Wombat didn't watch all sixteen hours of the unveiling but I'd rather not hear 90 minutes of speculation on a console that may not even deliver on most its promises. Remember all the talk about what the Kinect was going to be like after Microsoft showed someone scanning in a skateboard? It's all silly talk at this point with the PS4.

Maybe I'm just as jaded as Wombat but I'm not as excited for a next generation console just yet. I can't see myself getting excited over better graphics when I still haven't experienced some of the best games of this console cycle. As for the features of the next-gen consoles, all I can see them as unfortunately are possibilities that may not even work correctly or be present at launch. For me the next-generation of consoles will begin in 2014 when there's good games to play and all the bugs have been worked out of the new systems.

Oh, and if "incredible device" can't be used to describe the 3DS, then "disaster" can't be used to describe the PS3. I think that's being really melodramatic.

I think Diablo 3 hasn't been talked about much because its just not a good game.

Originally Posted by shipwreck What did we do to offend you? I'm very curious, since you hate us every week. (That reads meaner than I meant it. I just don't understand what we did that was so bad this week. We liked it and thought they did a good job.)

I'm not offended by anything that was said on the show. I think you got me confused with another member. I don't hate you guys at all. This is the only podcast that I can stand to listen to. Much better than other shows where they talk and laugh (loud as hell into the mic) at their own jokes.

I think that ,metallicoholic said it best... "If 'incredible device' can't be used to describe the 3DS, then 'diaster' cant be used to describe the PS3."

Cheapyd really brought the Hater-aid this week.
Skyfall: Awesome movie. Best Bond movie since Goldeneye. Apparently only yuppy indie movies about some guys used kleenex collection can make his A list.

PS4: Sounds like it will be great. Anyone who jumps right in on XBOX720 is a fool with all the RRODs and the xbox Vista dashboard updates, I will wait a year.

Love you guys!

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Originally Posted by Thomas96 I'm not offended by anything that was said on the show. I think you got me confused with another member. I don't hate you guys at all. This is the only podcast that I can stand to listen to. Much better than other shows where they talk and laugh (loud as hell into the mic) at their own jokes. I think that ,metallicoholic said it best... "If 'incredible device' can't be used to describe the 3DS, then 'diaster' cant be used to describe the PS3."

Yup, got my names mixed up. Sorry about that. Yeah, "disaster" was a bit of a stretch.

I don't see Wombat using that share button. I'm sure he doesn't needs anymore people messaging him to tell him he sucks at games.

Casino Royal: I thought the beginning was good and the ending was good, but there was a lot of boring in the middle. I know this goes against the grain, but I thought Quantum of Silence was a much better action/Bond movie.

As some one who never bought a PS3 the PS4 reveal gave me no reason to pick it up. It seemed like a prettier version of the PS3 which I did not buy. If all the rumors are true the 360 will be close in specs so there is no real incentive for me to pick up a PS4

Everybody is expecting so much from sony, i was happy with presentation..A guy in this thread said the only shock was a game released on pc a year ago..really did you watch it?

Hmm i was suprised by quite a few things IF YOU actually have patience to watch and listen. People just love to highlight the negative and completely ignore the positive..infamous new son, knack .killzone shadows fall looks amazing, drive club and deep down (whoa really?00)) All that and that was day 1..we still got alot of game shows to go. Then people are mad at no new experience in ps4? Did they see the rock show by media molecule. We are barely scratching the surface of what this beast can do.

Microsoft needs to make faulty hardware again for you people.

Diablo 3 owns some sort of record for the large number of people who played the game for 60 hours and then said it sucks.

Cheapy, I know you are a big fan of Rock Band, so was wondering what you think about the fact that the only way to play it will be to keep this gen's consoles. Will you keep your Xbox just for the occasional game of Rock Band?

I played the crap out of 1 & 2, and a fair amount of 3, but generally don't take it out unless I'm with a group of friends. I still think the group experience is singularly awesome and unlike anything else, and I'm thinking I will probably hold on to my 360 for at least a year longer to wring the last out of that game.

Shipwreck mentioned a music game with Kinect-like "air" instruments... that would totally lose against the fun of beating on a physical drum, playing a fake guitar, etc.

I know the day of the music game is over, but it's a lot of hardware to hold onto for the nostalgia of playing it occasionally.

wow, so I'm just about finished with the show and I think you guys are getting some undeserved hate. I think you guys are spot on with your Wii U impressions. If I was an investor in Nintendo I'd be concerned that they've lost their console touch, it may be time to stick solely to handhelds.

Good show but I think you guys missed a great new release on PC and haven't talked about it yet that I've hard: ANTICHAMBER. Basically, a lower budge Portal-type game but it's awesome and head scratching at times. Any impressions?

Originally Posted by gorgo Cheapy, I know you are a big fan of Rock Band, so was wondering what you think about the fact that the only way to play it will be to keep this gen's consoles. Will you keep your Xbox just for the occasional game of Rock Band? I played the crap out of 1 & 2, and a fair amount of 3, but generally don't take it out unless I'm with a group of friends. I still think the group experience is singularly awesome and unlike anything else, and I'm thinking I will probably hold on to my 360 for at least a year longer to wring the last out of that game. Shipwreck mentioned a music game with Kinect-like "air" instruments... that would totally lose against the fun of beating on a physical drum, playing a fake guitar, etc. I know the day of the music game is over, but it's a lot of hardware to hold onto for the nostalgia of playing it occasionally.

I would love for RB to somehow continue on into the next gen. The games and dlc most likely will not be BC for PS4 or 720, but it would be cool if Harmonix made a Rock Band/Dance Central channel. Pay your money, get all the songs for x amount of time.

Except the old controllers won't work with next gen. Dammit