anybody?

cheapy and wombat addressed this, i believe. i thought cheapy said that a demo can only kill your enthusiasm for a game.

Great show as always guys. Your comments regarding Little Big Planet supported the impressions and opinions I've gotten about the game. I haven't played it but the mechanics and gameplay just doesn't excite me. I don't want to create levels to have fun. Not that it couldn't be enjoyable, it just doesn't interest me.

I'm surprised at the unimpressed LBP beta discussision. Cheapy this was your game of the show like three times and every time you get exposed to LBP your enthusiasm gets lower and lower. The full version is obviously going to have more then the beta but I don't think there is going to be many drastic differences - just some more objects and the rest of the 50 single player levels.

I've had a lot of fun playing the beta and am super excited for the full game. I haven't really created much except for one level modified from a template - all my enjoyment has come from experiencing the great user created levels. Even if they all aren't great game levels, most of them have some great entertainment value whether its funny or clever or whatever. Of course the key for Sony is making sure that the best user levels are immediately accessable to everyone.

That LBP moment you had Cheapy was great, and disagree with Wombat for sayinig it's not the game. It *is* the game, at least in part, that's why you have so many buttons that are set to useless thinigs like smiling and waving. These are community functions that gives LBP its charm and enjoyment.

The whole gay thing is pretty pathetic and I agree with Wombat! The whole thing IS gay. I'm not gay myself, but I have a number of gay friends and they would never be offended by someone calling something gay. They think it's childish when people whine or cry about it, it's just as bad as saying something is retarded. Give me a break, it's a word, it's not personal and people should understand that. You guys didn't sound too bothered by it at all, which is good because honestly you shouldn't be. Keep up the amazing work you two.

you guys shouldnt care if a person stops listening because for stupid stuff, just move on and 1:30 min show is very nice 2 hours is too long for me

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Great show. It seems like publishers are trying the textbook publisher route of going after used games. Textbooks have lots of content online that can only be accessed with codes from a new textbook. These companies better be careful because unlike textbooks, their products are luxury items. As a consumer, I agree that it leaves me less desirable shopping choices.

Wombat is right about the DVD being after market products. Promotion for the Iron Man DVD for example, shouldn't cost nearly as much because all the buzz and interest was established with the theater release. Heck, they could reuse the same commercials (chances are they do).

I would think the closest video game equivalent would be the Greatest Hits, Platinum Hits and Player's Choice lines of hit games for the big three. Even then, game stores manage screw over publishers by selling the used game 5 dollars less than the budget price.

The post show ramble was pretty hilarious.

I don't understand why Wombat feels he is entitled to a piece of CAG. Wombat's approach is "If you pay me, I'll do more for the site". Which is not getting him anywhere, nor should it. Whereas Shipwreck has been a contributer and to my knowledge gets not a dime from Cheapy. Difference is, Ship acts like he loves being part of CAG and has carved out a section he can call his own. Cheapy has every right to feel like Shipwreck should be hired over Wombat because of that. Attitude and willingness to contribute for the sake of contributing often times gets rewarded. I bet there are bigger things in store for Ship because of his great attitude. Look what paying Wombat to contribute gets you...have you seen his UGO blog? Yipe! I'd pick Shipwreck any day of the week.

Wombat has blown a golden opportunity to impress CAG readers and make a bigger presence for himself on Cheapy's website instead opting for the MUCH less trafficked UGO site. If he would have invested his time and efforts into CAG without complaining so much or acting like Cheapy owes him because he shares billing on the podcast, I bet he would be further along in realizing his dream of working in the gaming field. Wombat is lucky to have hitched his wagon to Cheapy's Star, it's too bad he's not smart enough to see a great opportunity right in front of him.

Hey do you think ryan paton is working in microsoft because they think he can understand how to make games for japanese audiences since he was working for kojima on mgs4

Originally Posted by kiddvid I don't understand why Wombat feels he is entitled to a piece of CAG. Wombat's approach is "If you pay me, I'll do more for the site". Which is not getting him anywhere, nor should it. Whereas Shipwreck has been a contributer and to my knowledge gets not a dime from Cheapy. Difference is, Ship acts like he loves being part of CAG and has carved out a section he can call his own. Cheapy has every right to feel like Shipwreck should be hired over Wombat because of that. Attitude and willingness to contribute for the sake of contributing often times gets rewarded. I bet there are bigger things in store for Ship because of his great attitude. Look what paying Wombat to contribute gets you...have you seen his UGO blog? Yipe! I'd pick Shipwreck any day of the week. Wombat has blown a golden opportunity to impress CAG readers and make a bigger presence for himself on Cheapy's website instead opting for the MUCH less trafficked UGO site. If he would have invested his time and efforts into CAG without complaining so much or acting like Cheapy owes him because he shares billing on the podcast, I bet he would be further along in realizing his dream of working in the gaming field. Wombat is lucky to have hitched his wagon to Cheapy's Star, it's too bad he's not smart enough to see a great opportunity right in front of him.

agree with you

Originally Posted by kiddvid I don't understand why Wombat feels he is entitled to a piece of CAG. Wombat's approach is "If you pay me, I'll do more for the site". Which is not getting him anywhere, nor should it. Whereas Shipwreck has been a contributer and to my knowledge gets not a dime from Cheapy. Difference is, Ship acts like he loves being part of CAG and has carved out a section he can call his own. Cheapy has every right to feel like Shipwreck should be hired over Wombat because of that. Attitude and willingness to contribute for the sake of contributing often times gets rewarded. I bet there are bigger things in store for Ship because of his great attitude. Look what paying Wombat to contribute gets you...have you seen his UGO blog? Yipe! I'd pick Shipwreck any day of the week. Wombat has blown a golden opportunity to impress CAG readers and make a bigger presence for himself on Cheapy's website instead opting for the MUCH less trafficked UGO site. If he would have invested his time and efforts into CAG without complaining so much or acting like Cheapy owes him because he shares billing on the podcast, I bet he would be further along in realizing his dream of working in the gaming field. Wombat is lucky to have hitched his wagon to Cheapy's Star, it's too bad he's not smart enough to see a great opportunity right in front of him.

I'l be honest I don't appreciate taking something I said to Cheapy in a joking way, we did say that on the show, and claiming that I feel I have some sense of entitlement or that I don't feel grateful for what I have.
Do you think I accepted the UGO gig without talking to Cheapy? He was one of my biggest cheerleaders for me doing it and so far it has done nothing but help the site. UGO has reached out to Cheapy in numerous way, he even wrote a piece for them this year.

So please don't make assumptions about things that make me look like something I am not.

Originally Posted by Wombat I'l be honest I don't appreciate taking something I said to Cheapy in a joking way, we did say that on the show, and claiming that I feel I have some sense of entitlement or that I don't feel grateful for what I have. Do you think I accepted the UGO gig without talking to Cheapy? He was one of my biggest cheerleaders for me doing it and so far it has done nothing but help the site. UGO has reached out to Cheapy in numerous way, he even wrote a piece for them this year. So please don't make assumptions about things that make me look like something I am not.

SORRY,didn't mean to hurt you but you always get the feeling that you will work with much more enthusiasm for money

I happen to like my job. Does that mean I should renounce my salary?

The difference between doing something for free and getting paid for it is in responsibility. If you don't get paid you are free to do whatever you want, whenever you want. As an employee you have some obligations and you get compensated for it.

Any sane person would choose being paid for doing something he enjoys over doing it for free. You cannot blame Wombat for doing the sensible thing. Unless Cheapy chooses to pay him he has no obligation to contribute to this site, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Originally Posted by ocelot24 Hey do you think ryan paton is working in microsoft because they think he can understand how to make games for japanese audiences since he was working for kojima on mgs4

He was there to help them make MGS4 better for Western audiences.

Originally Posted by Wombat I'l be honest I don't appreciate taking something I said to Cheapy in a joking way, we did say that on the show, and claiming that I feel I have some sense of entitlement or that I don't feel grateful for what I have. Do you think I accepted the UGO gig without talking to Cheapy? He was one of my biggest cheerleaders for me doing it and so far it has done nothing but help the site. UGO has reached out to Cheapy in numerous way, he even wrote a piece for them this year. So please don't make assumptions about things that make me look like something I am not.

I don't have to make assumptions, your attitude makes things all too clear. I have been listening to the show a long time. You can say you are joking all you want, but it is obvious in your words and attitude that you feel you should be ASKED more to be part of the site. You acted hurt when you didnt know what going on with CAG 2.0 and that Cheapy was paying someone (John) to work on the site and you were not, you act hurt when you say you dont have forum moderation access, you dont understand why Cheapy would pay Shipwreck over you and I'm saying its obvious.

Cheapy has asked you over and over to put more work into the outline even and your answer is if you are doing the audio part and sound clips and whatever else, that cheapy can do the outline. Same with Ship, when you two did the show together, if he did this, you would do that, to make it even. What I'm saying is, if you went out of your way , if you went above and beyond, perhaps you would see the rewards you are looking for. Cheapy has complained before you dont contribute to the content or research for your own show! So how could you expect him to hire you. Ship creates content. You are a sidekick who imagines he is something more. Im saying, DO MORE and make your case for being an employee compelling. If you have to argue how many hours per week you contribute compared to Ship, then I'd say you are not making a big enough impression. And no, posting in the forums does not count. I do that and I dont expect a dime from Cheapy.

What would you do if Cheapy paid you to be a part of the site?

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Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki He was there to help them make MGS4 better for Western audiences.

So maybe microsoft thinks he understands japanese audiences as well