Originally Posted by ITDEFX GRRRR!!!! GUILE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will get you back for this!!

I usually hate Rick Rolls, but I actually laughed at this one.

My favorite Star Trek scene is probably the one from Enterprise's In a Mirror Darkly where Zefram Cochrane shoots and kills the occupants of the T'Plana-Hath. I missed the preview for that episode when it aired and it made me go WTF. Then the intro played and I realized it was a mirror episode.

Originally Posted by ananag112 My favorite Star Trek scene is probably the one from Enterprise's In a Mirror Darkly where Zefram Cochrane shoots and kills the occupants of the T'Plana-Hath. I missed the preview for that episode when it aired and it made me go WTF. Then the intro played and I realized it was a mirror episode.

That Mirror two parter was the best of season 4. The intro was really cool.

It was the best episode(s) of the series IMO.

I'll have to find that one.

I may be the odd one out, but Enterprise is probably my favorite Star Trek series (with TNG and DS9 being real close as well). I like how the humans are the under dog and how they are extremely weak compared to most of the other civilizations they run into. I liked Season 1 and 2 of Enterprise because it felt like the more old school Star Trek. Season 3 was pretty good, but it was less about exploration and more about killing the Xindi. Season 4 though (besides the finale) was probably some of the best Star Trek ever.

Also, what do you guys think of an entire series in the Mirror Universe?

Originally Posted by ananag112 I may be the odd one out, but Enterprise is probably my favorite Star Trek series (with TNG and DS9 being real close as well). I like how the humans are the under dog and how they are extremely weak compared to most of the other civilizations they run into. I liked Season 1 and 2 of Enterprise because it felt like the more old school Star Trek. Season 3 was pretty good, but it was less about exploration and more about killing the Xindi. Season 4 though (besides the finale) was probably some of the best Star Trek ever. Also, what do you guys think of an entire series in the Mirror Universe?

Season 1 and 2 were good, with season 2 being a really good one (that borg one was outstanding). Season 3 was crap. Season 4 put the show in the right direction but those crack heads at paramount didn't give it a chance.

I didn't really like the borg episode much, mostly because enterprise shouldn't have stood a chance against them.

Originally Posted by JolietJake I didn't really like the borg episode much, mostly because enterprise shouldn't have stood a chance against them.

At least it wasn't like Voyager. They made the Borg total jobbers. Janeway getting weapons from the future and kicking the Borg's ass all the time... man that was dumb!

Originally Posted by BustaUppa At least it wasn't like Voyager. They made the Borg total jobbers. Janeway getting weapons from the future and kicking the Borg's ass all the time... man that was dumb!

I always thought that the Borg should have been a focus of TNG only. I understand the introduction of Seven meant there would be some interaction with the Borg, but they were really watered down.

All of Voyager should have been like Year of Hell where we see the ship getting more and more destroyed as the series carried on. The ship was often way too calm. There also should have been more tension in Voyager between Starfleet and the Maquis as well. Voyager was a good idea, but I think it was poorly executed. It just gave the writers a chance to make up tons of useless races.

Originally Posted by ananag112 All of Voyager should have been like Year of Hell where we see the ship getting more and more destroyed as the series carried on. The ship was often way too calm. There also should have been more tension in Voyager between Starfleet and the Maquis as well. Voyager was a good idea, but I think it was poorly executed. It just gave the writers a chance to make up tons of useless races.

That WAS the original idea, but it kind of got lost between season 2 and 3. Once the doctor got his mobile emmitter, and seven came on board...that show went to hell.

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Originally Posted by ITDEFX That WAS the original idea, but it kind of got lost between season 2 and 3. Once the doctor got his mobile emmitter, and seven came on board...that show went to hell.

Even the first season wasn't like that though. The Maquis quickly because accustomed to life on Voyager and followed orders. There were a few episodes where there was some conflict, but I thought they were poorly done.

Originally Posted by ananag112 Even the first season wasn't like that though. The Maquis quickly because accustomed to life on Voyager and followed orders. There were a few episodes where there was some conflict, but I thought they were poorly done.

So true, so true. A main problem with Voyager was that every interesting plot development would be quickly undone by the end of the story arc. You had Year Of Hell (timeline resets itself at the end of the episode), that episode where a bunch of bad stuff happens and then it turns out that it was all in a duplicate Voyager with a duplicate crew (a baby dies and they just replace it with a baby from the duplicate ship), the retarded series finale where Janeway travels through time to keep Tuvok from getting sick, the aforementioned Maquis tension disappearing within a few episodes, Janeway casually getting herself assimilated by the Borg and pulling off her infiltration scheme with little psychological consequence afterwards... the list goes on!

I think the worst of all was an early story arc with Paris. He was basically being an asshole and like getting into fights with Chakotay, and it was genuinely making his character interesting. Then they reveal that it was all part of an act to trick some aliens into thinking that there was dissension in the crew, and Paris was all like "jk lol" and everyone went back to being buddies. That kind of set the tone for much of the lameness that was to come...

The problem with Voyager was that none of the characters were endearing. In TNG, you cared about the characters, things that happened to them weren't just white washed by the next episode. They were flawed, damaged, that stuck with them. I hated how they made the doctor the Voyager equivalent of Data. The problem there was that it had been done already, never mind the fact that Data was at least tangible, the doctor could be taken out by destroying a ing projector.

You could basically match the Voyager characters to their TNG equivalents. Chakotay was just Riker without a beard. Then they tried making him deeper by exploring his native american heritage, which just came off as hokey.

Originally Posted by JolietJake The problem with Voyager was that none of the characters were endearing. In TNG, you cared about the characters, things that happened to them weren't just white washed by the next episode. They were flawed, damaged, that stuck with them. I hated how they made the doctor the Voyager equivalent of Data. The problem there was that it had been done already, never mind the fact that Data was at least tangible, the doctor could be taken out by destroying a ing projector. You could basically match the Voyager characters to their TNG equivalents. Chakotay was just Riker without a beard. Then they tried making him deeper by exploring his native american heritage, which just came off as hokey.

First time I have ever read someone say that about mr. tatoo.

The doctor had potiental but it was like once he got into his happy snappy opera mood, I just wanted to scream. Then when he wanted to leave voyager so he can sing for a species of tards..I just wanted to shoot myself. Where the did voyager get the storage space for the doctor to hold all his new programs and personalities??!?!

bah they should have made him real (transportor accident would be the easiest) and then allow some alien of the week kill him.

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I am going to see it opening night.

TOS season 1 is available for streaming on Netflix via the 360!

http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/Star_...5?trkid=738507

Originally Posted by GuilewasNK TOS season 1 is available for streaming on Netflix via the 360! http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/Star_...5?trkid=738507

I thought I mentioned this a few weeks before.

I am finally catching up on DS9. I watched bits and pieces of it here and there and liked it, but I never had the chance to see the whole series. I watched Trials and Tribble-ations yesterday and it was awesome. Probably my second favorite DS9 episode I have seen so far (I like Past Tense the best so far though The House of Quark is up there as well).