Great show guys! I really liked it. Was hoping for a celebratory podcast, it being 150 and all. Wish me luck on getting Banjo, lol.

I dont see whats the big fuss about the American demo of KZ2. It will be in the PS Store when the game hits (or at least that Thursday of that week).

"Exclusive access" to a demo is not something new to this industry.

Originally Posted by mykevermin . . . . but if there's one thing we ain't starvin' for, it's FPS. They're all over the place like dirty, shoeless children at a Golden Corral.

While listening to the talk about DC Universe, I just remembered that I hate Superman - every freaking super power known and invincible except for kyrptonite, also if he dies he comes back - whatever.

Good show guys. Good thing I didn't pick up SF4 just yet.

CheapyD - I need an explanation.

You tend to give Wombat a hard time about his gay job, but on CAGCast 150 you were talking without shame about eating other peoples' sausages.

Should we be worried about your marital status?

I just want you to set the record straight.

another good show, though the title threw me off since I was expecting ship to go on how the ps3 sucks

wombat needs to calm down with the interrupting and annoying rhetorical questions. he occasionally makes it seem funny but I usually find him to come off as a douche. I know it's all in good taste but it gets old so please cut it down (or learn to make it funny more often)

cheapy, as always has not failed to make me laugh. the way he just goes about detailing some stupid occurrence in his carefree life never gets boring.

shipwreck is always great. though he needs to speak up and be more enthusiastically engaged with the conversation (though wombat interrupts him and throws in some cheap shots). ship brings a kind of unique calming charm to the show which neither wombat nor cheapy can offer.

oh and I wouldn't mind a sealed copy of Banjo-Kazooie:Nuts 'N Bolts...I wasn't trying to get a wombat (just some constructive criticism). but anyway wombat rules

Originally Posted by Ex~ So who has done the Mario/Wombat fart mashup? I'm waiting... xP

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_sZlWcpX1g

You're hating on Mighty Muggs?!?!?!

Straight from the box - "made from 100% recycled awesome"

This show is great, I really like the 3-way action w/ Shipwreck. Ship should be in every episode or at least a regular guest, I am really enjoying these episodes! Thanks for another one and I can't wait Ship to see the pictures of your collections.

Nice show guys! The Comic Con stories were pretty cool.

Nice job on 150 podcasts! Looking forward to listening to this.

Originally Posted by Wombat HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Indeed.

Woo! congrats on #150. Listening now.

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I love Killzone 2 Demo Conspiracists who are nothing but fanboys. "Sony doesn't want you to see it because it suxlolol111" or "Sony mishandled this" are some of the most ridiculous statements i've ever seen in my internet life, and i've been the administrator of a message board full of furries before.

Gamestop likely paid Sony for the exclusiveness of the demo to get more sales. Stop trying to make this some 9/11 conspiracy bullshit. If you need me too, I'll write a 10 page document on why shopping the exclusive Killzone 2 demo around was a amazing marketing decision and financial success (in short: Sony, instead of losing on a demo like ALL companies, made a profit off of it).

Please do. Sure, it's a large short gain, but what about the long run? Please explain how a pay to play "demo" is a financial success.

First of all, it's not pay to play. It's a bonus to people who pre-ordered the game at GameStop, hence why it's available to everyone else in the outside countries without a preorder. Likely, either GameStop or Sony went up to the other and said "Hey, what can we offer for pre-order bonus?". Someone suggested a demo. Gamestop must've suggested an exclusive demo (again, you guys act like this is some new invention...Rogue Squadron 3 anyone?). This was born, giving Sony lots of money as GameStop surely would've had to pony up to get that exclusive demo. Anyone who thinks this was Sony purposely conspiraced to shoot JF- erm, I mean, not offer this demo to the users is stupid.

If you want me to go in depth on it, I will tommorow. But giving away this demo as a pre-order is no different than giving away beta access if you pre-order. The only difference is adolescents pretending to be internet crusaders.

And again, this is a exclusive time based offer, meaning that once the game comes out, the demo will be available to anyone. , I bet half of you who are bitching don't even own a PS3.

Originally Posted by BostonCollegeFan I love Killzone 2 Demo Conspiracists who are nothing but fanboys. "Sony doesn't want you to see it because it suxlolol111" or "Sony mishandled this" are some of the most ridiculous statements i've ever seen in my internet life, and i've been the administrator of a message board full of furries before. Gamestop likely paid Sony for the exclusiveness of the demo to get more sales. Stop trying to make this some 9/11 conspiracy bullshit. If you need me too, I'll write a 10 page document on why shopping the exclusive Killzone 2 demo around was a amazing marketing decision and financial success (in short: Sony, instead of losing on a demo like ALL companies, made a profit off of it).

I think the consensus is not that it was a conspiracy but just a bad marketing idea. Supporters want to see this title explode.
The internet press for KZ2 has been borderline gushing, and everyone I know who has played the demo has been positive about it. Why kill the hype and potentially subdue the game launch by limiting it's access? (And do so with the game-retailer with the worst "good will" to boot! Let me preorder my full-price game so I can get it at gamestop where they open it before I get my hands on it)

It's not like the franchise is a "gang-buster" with legions of devotees warranting a marketing tie-in (like a Halo 3 demo/ Crackdown thing).

You would think they would want the weekend gamer, who doesn't read all the pre-release and web hype, and gaming site fodder to DL the demo and get hooked on the title well before the launch.

It's no conspiracy IMHO just a ham-handed move.

Aside: I wouldn't tell anyone I was a "furries" message board admin. Yikes man.

The fact that you must put $5 down makes it pay to play, just not in the literal sense.

And it still doesn't explain why the move is a brilliant marketing decision or a financial success for Sony. All it is, is "Hey, we're going to give a demo to the people who are going to buy this game anyways."

For Gamestop, of course, they have the better gain from the deal, since it pushes one of their main sources of revenue: Pre-orders.

Because the internet != real life. Just because a group of a thousand outspoken nerds say it's good, and another thousand say it's unfair that they dont' get it without pre-ordering doesn't mean anything outside of the internet. In the real life, this was a genious move as now Sony and Gamestop can advertise that it's exclusively available at Gamestop, and all the casual and PS3 fans who don't frequent hardcore game sites, like CAG, or GAF, will see these advertisements, and if they have any info in Killzone 2, will go down to Gamestop and drop the pre-order. This profits both Gamestop and Sony, as Gamestop now can invest on your money and Sony is getting paid from the deal with Gamestop.

The weekend gamer doesn't go on CAG. The weekend gamer doesn't go on GAF. They go to Gamestop. They find out their info their. They find out from magazines or Yahoo.Com.