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Old 06-19-2009, 10:28 AM   #81
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I want to play Honkey Jew College Football Experience, where at half time you try to devour a 10 pound Lobster and Smoke a fat bag of weed.
and holding up the hotdog vendor complaining about 10 cents.
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:51 AM   #82
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Actually, Halo 3 retails for $40 now. Gears of War 2 still retails for $60, but has been on sale for $40 or less at major retailers numerous times since its release last fall. It's just the facts of life that Xbox 360 exclusives get cheaper much quicker than PlayStation 3 exclusives.

The reason you don't see Uncharted and Heavenly Sword much at retail is because they haven't had price drops. Retailers are not going to place orders for 2 year old games with MSRPs of $60 that are not likely to sell as fast as new releases. Both can still be found on Amazon for $57 though.

And if you want to compare platformer to platformer, maybe a Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts to LittleBigPlanet comparison is more one to one. Banjo came out at $20 less than LBP, and now retails for $30 (although it is often on sale for $20). LBP still retails for $60, but Amazon currently has it on sale for $48.
The way to do the comparison Ship is in comparing cross-platform games. I always figured it was because the install base is lower on the PS3, and the BluRay disks are more expensive to manufacture. For example Red Faction, more expensive on PS3, and COD World and War, more expensive on PS3. There are other examples. Occasionally, you will see the reverse, where lets say Major League Baseball 2k9 is discounted on the PS3, but that's because there is no other baseball game other than 2k9 on the 360. Or where a game comes out on the PS3 first as an exclusive and then the 360 (but I'm not sure there are many of those - one can't come to mind offhand).
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:12 AM   #83
Cheapy, I'm not really sure why people are so overly critical of what stories you want to talk about. The CAGcast has always been good because you guys want to talk about what you want to talk about. I like hearing your crazy stories and personal drama. That's what makes your show fun to listen to. The haters just don't understand what makes your show unique.

Wombat, sucks to hear your basement became a stoage room for crap. You gonna keep all that stuff or just toss them? I don't see why you need to keep them if you don't want to.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:14 AM   #84
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And if you want to compare platformer to platformer, maybe a Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts to LittleBigPlanet comparison is more one to one. Banjo came out at $20 less than LBP, and now retails for $30 (although it is often on sale for $20). LBP still retails for $60, but Amazon currently has it on sale for $48.
That's a much better comparison, but I'll argue that pretty much every Rare game on 360 has had a quick price cut due to poor sales.

And yes, I know why retailers don't carry full priced games beyond a certain unless they sell, but if you can't find it at retail it basically like it doesn't exist. And I don't buy games from Amazon unless I can get a really good deal on it.

As for Halo 3, stores in my area still have it at $59.99 (2 Targets, Wal-Mart Supercenter and a Best Buy), so that's clearly their problem to make me think it was still full price.
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:32 PM   #85
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Any talk about PS3 sales figures reminds me of the fact that the PS3/game attach rate is much lower than the 360.
i haven't watched the numbers(and responses) in a long time because i didn't and still don't care but i was under the impression that the PS3 had lower sales but a HIGHER attach rate. isn't that what Sony is always bragging about all the time how a) sales are increasing X% and attach rate is higher than other consoles?
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Old 06-19-2009, 01:07 PM   #86
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Actually, Halo 3 retails for $40 now. Gears of War 2 still retails for $60, but has been on sale for $40 or less at major retailers numerous times since its release last fall. It's just the facts of life that Xbox 360 exclusives get cheaper much quicker than PlayStation 3 exclusives.

The reason you don't see Uncharted and Heavenly Sword much at retail is because they haven't had price drops. Retailers are not going to place orders for 2 year old games with MSRPs of $60 that are not likely to sell as fast as new releases. Both can still be found on Amazon for $57 though.

And if you want to compare platformer to platformer, maybe a Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts to LittleBigPlanet comparison is more one to one. Banjo came out at $20 less than LBP, and now retails for $30 (although it is often on sale for $20). LBP still retails for $60, but Amazon currently has it on sale for $48.
theres a reason why banjo kazooie started out so cheap and ended up selling even cheaper sooner than many games............ a number of the game comparisons made on the show do seem kind of off. hell even the ds has games that are still selling at a high price point considering the time theyve been out and id assume the wii has some too. as far as alot of that goes its kind of irrelevant since if you look around you can find deals on many of those games at diff times if you do the research.
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Old 06-19-2009, 05:19 PM   #87
Much better show this week.

I hear you guys talking so much about Red Faction, but you haven't even mentioned the multiplayer yet. I think it's even better than the single player. I've also noticed a trend upward of people playing Red Faction on my friends list. I think THQ may have a surprise hit on their hands.

Volition has quietly become one of the better developers of this generation.
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Old 06-19-2009, 06:00 PM   #88
Loved the Bill O’Reilly ending. It was my first time hearing that. Man, that dude is a douche. Enjoyable CAGCast all around!
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:14 PM   #89
Another great show! I was hearing this on my ipod in a restaurant and when Wombat said "Mario Cock", I laugh so hard almost everybody was starring at me.
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:39 PM   #90
I'm confused as to why Wombat thinks not being able to go inside of buildings in Infamous is a big deal. What could you possibly want to do inside of a building that the lack of it makes it not fun?

Infamous sold as well as a game without much hype can do, which is only worse than four other games in May on an off year for sales. Killzone 2's US sales I can see some disappointment in since it was hyped greatly for four years or so.

Good show.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:05 PM   #91
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I'm confused as to why Wombat thinks not being able to go inside of buildings in Infamous is a big deal. What could you possibly want to do inside of a building that the lack of it makes it not fun?

Infamous sold as well as a game without much hype can do, which is only worse than four other games in May on an off year for sales. Killzone 2's US sales I can see some disappointment in since it was hyped greatly for four years or so.

Good show.
well, Wombat had a point about Zeke's rooftop home. that doesn't make much sense.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:10 PM   #92
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No power = Get up on the roof so you aren't stuck in a dark building and stay out of the way of the Reapers that rule the streets early on.
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:13 PM   #93
Hey Wombat I'm a black listener and I'm still here. Maybe if CheapyD should start an ad campaign to attract more black listeners.

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Old 06-19-2009, 10:35 PM   #94
Hi Cheapy and Wombat, loved the show. Just had a correction for you guys. The Black College Football experience would not have had black athletes having sex with white women. This is because there are very few if any white women that attend historically black colleges. I graduated from a black college and found that the white kickers had the better experience. Why? because they were able to take advantage of some of the most delicious black booty that I had ever seen. You should have seen these guys. Both of them just happy as larks like they had hit the jackpot. As a result, the other football players actually had to go across town to other campuses in order to get their fill of white women. Why stay on campus. Granted you get all the booty you wanted but it did come with the price of high drama. Anyways, keep up the great work guys.
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:13 AM   #95
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No power = Get up on the roof so you aren't stuck in a dark building and stay out of the way of the Reapers that rule the streets early on.
dammit, you're right. okay, i'll side with you on this one
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Old 06-20-2009, 07:59 AM   #96
Black is a color.

I hate jews!

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Great show.

You guys seriously doubted that Wombat was jealous of CheapyD when you read my question from the last show. Without having the inclination to create a cogent arguement by listening to the show again, I can only give you the kind of arguement that I give my wife. That is just my impression. Wombat often (although not during the latest show) seems to want to bring Cheapy down a notch by pointing out his flaws as an internet space pimp (hate the game not the playa), as a host, and as an operator of a web empire. Whether it's point out that he doesn't provide good E3 coverage, or whether Wombat is pointing out that Cheapy didn't use the word 'friend' to describe his offer to fly out Ship or Wombat.

Listeners seem way too sensitive about any use of the word black, and far too willing to label someone a racist. Calling someone a racist is very insulting. It's hardly worth defending yourself.

I am a jew!

And I do really enjoy the podcast. I commute a lot and this is pretty much my #1 podcast. Almost everything else I listen to routinely is an NPR podcast (Marketplace, Fresh Air, This American Life). I wish there were a few more podcasts in the tech/gaming sector that were as good as the Cagcast, but usually they just have snorting sniffling nasal nerds rambling on a soapbox without concern for entertainment. Buzz Out Loud is ok, I guess. I think that Cheapy's actual interest in radio (that is, being a Stern fan) is a boon.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:35 AM   #97
Just finished watching the "Vice Guide to North Korea". Very funny and ed up at the same time. Thanks for the recomendation Cheapy. Any other documentaries you would recomend?

I finished watching a documentary called "Frontrunners" recently on Netflix instant watch. It's about an election at a prestigious highschool in NewYork City. It was really good and I would recomend it.
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Old 06-20-2009, 11:46 AM   #98
I thoroughly enjoyed the "Vice Guide to North Korea" as well. I would recommend checking out the other videos of that series, check out the Pakistan one and the Shanghai one as well (featuring David Cross!)
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Old 06-20-2009, 09:42 PM   #99
stop bitching

I dont know what people are bitching about , i dont know why people cant let cheapy have a weekend brake . I know this is a gameing website but everyone needs a brake or two from work , e3 is his brake to get away and smoke some weed , thats kool with me .

And the whole wombat thing about him thinking he is so good for the show , i think if either of them wasnt on the show that it wouldnt be a hit like it is now , i like to listen in for there personality and they both feed off of each other.

Anyways awesome show guys i hope when you both are old and cant talk anymore that you both would let your kids take over the show.
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Old 06-21-2009, 12:38 AM   #100
I'm amazed there are people out there who never drink alcohol, or smoke cigarettes. I mean, that would be the only way you could really speak from your pedestals about the evils of marijuana without being a complete hypocrite. It's a shame people only see marijuana users as your stereotypical stoner, sitting around all day ranting about how awesome pot is.

Most of us have jobs, lives, and families to support as well. Have you ever come home after a hard day at work and cracked open a beer to wind down? Replace that beer with a joint and all of a sudden it's wrong. Some people sicken me.
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