Wombat is right. PAX is for the general public of gamers. Not for media-only showcases.

Also, CheapyD's comment of "showing a game before it's ready can really sour your opinion of it" hit home with me. I got a chance to play Bionic Commando on the 360 before it was released, and I was just so put off by the alpha build they showed me that it made me completely shun the game. My friends tell me the game isn't all that bad, but I'm still put off by it cause my first impression of it was that it was really awful.

On the modern warfare map pack, I went with my gut and the advice from the cagcast and just went with Bad Company. Good times to be had.

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Originally Posted by Smallville123 i like the new automated contest system

You have good taste.

Originally Posted by Iron Past I'm curious why the MW2 maps getting screwed up elicits such a reaction and gets a "MS always screws this stuff up" but something like Sony failing such a basic programing code for a leap year (that turned every fat PS3 into a brick for a day, regardless of connection to the internet) gets a shrug and a "whatever, just don't play your PS3 for a day." I can only think of one or two other times when MS has screwed up a DLC launch (like Game Room and Fallout 3), which hardly qualifies as 'constantly' messing things up. Not trying to say you're console biased or anything, because I really don't think you are, but Cheapy seems to have a strange lack of consistency for what irritates him.

The PS3 leap year bug was caused by an off-the-shelf ARM Syscon CPU, it wasn't Sony's code that caused the glitch. Other than that you're right, MS rarely screw up except for Game Room and the Fallout 3 DLC. And Modern Warfare 2, of course. Oh, and then there was the time they released all the Mass Effect 2 DLC early and for free, by accident. Also when they released the Midnight Club: LA DLC early, and then pulled it. Come to think of it, that happened with a Gears of War 2 map pack as well. If that doesn't qualify as "constantly messing things up", it comes pretty close.

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki Geohot was already trying to hack the PS3 and showing off his results before the update, so it's not like the update caused him to start it up.

According to his blog it's the reason he's now developing custom firmware for the system, which is far more of a potential threat to Sony than his previously released exploit.

Well another one of the great podcasts to come out again keep up the great work guys

I'd like to start a fund to hire a guy to go to Wombat's house and smack him in the back of the head next time he starts making annoying noises over the Godaddy ad.

Originally Posted by John According to his blog it's the reason he's now developing custom firmware for the system, which is far more of a potential threat to Sony than his previously released exploit.

From what I've read about his early PS3 work, he didn't get much further than anybody else before him, so what makes him so sure that he could get to the next level and put out custom firmware soon after the update?

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki From what I've read about his early PS3 work, he didn't get much further than anybody else before him, so what makes him so sure that he could get to the next level and put out custom firmware soon after the update?

As far as I know, no-one else had come close to gaining full hypervisor-level access to the processor before his exploit. Who knows if he'll be successful coming up with a software based solution, but I know if I was Sony I wouldn't want him working on it.

Originally Posted by hpv i'd like to start a fund to hire a guy to go to wombat's house and smack him in the back of the head next time he starts making annoying noises over the godaddy ad.

+1

Love hearing you guys talk crap about Crecente...makes my day! (Although Stephen Tortilla over there at Kotaku is by far a worse writer)

Great show as always guys! Makes my day at work fly by! Even when I get goofy looks for cracking up so hard. What can I say? You guys are hilarious!

I have a suggestion for the show- I know none of you are PC gamers but could you maybe at least go over some of the PC deals in the weekly deals section of the show? You don't need to include a whole segment for PC gaming like you do for MS or Sony, but to at least point out some of the bigger deals would be great as then the PC gamers would also be able to listen in and learn about deals they may have missed on the forums?

Otherwise great show- actually I've been pretty impressed with the consistency of the shows now, I remember in the past there would be times where almost every other time the show was cancelled/delayed but now it's a lot more regular and that's great!

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what a stupid lawsuit

good show, but more vivid genitalia images in my brain now...

Originally Posted by hpv I'd like to start a fund to hire a guy to go to Wombat's house and smack him in the back of the head next time he starts making annoying noises over the Godaddy ad.

I actually believe that Wombat doing that makes the GoDaddy ad even better. I actually believe he continued doing it this week because people had given it a positive response last week.

Good show as always

Cheapy's been sounding more upbeat these past few shows, like he did when I first started listening.

Great show, little heavy on the wang talk though. Didn't hear if Wombat got sick at PAX, seems to be a common concern at that convention.

Oh Wombat, I love how you sing Herb Alpert over the ads. Please to keep singing such classics.

They used to have "extended demos" back in the day.... it was called Shareware... and it sucked. Great show guys. Keep up the good work. I wish you guys could have a new show every day.

I'm with Cheapy on getting sick of seeing those PAX East hoodie codes on my Twitter stream. Who would want that anyway? It's like wearing a souvenir T-shirt for a concert you didn't go to.

Big fan of the shows lately. Great job everyone.