Supreme Court says they should and have to be there regardless of status.

Originally Posted by Friend of Sonic I guess I am curious for realz (though my post was mostly for lulz) if the bill applies to other types of immigrants. If we hear an "aboot" can they ask to see their papers? I can't imagine the bill is specifically only for one type of immigrant, but I just can't get the hillarious mental picture out of my head of a cop asking for a Canadian's papers. Well, the mental picture of a cop doing it for a Mexican is funny too, but you know what I mean.

of course its for all immigrants. people are just upset that it will unfairly target the hispanic population. i mean, hispanics account for about 75% or so of illegal immigrants so its pretty obvious theyll be targeted.

Originally Posted by cindersphere Supreme Court says they should and have to be there regardless of status.

And they can appeal to INS, but that requires money and lawyers.

They have none, thus they a go-go out.

It needs reform. There is no win in this... just more BS.

Originally Posted by RAMSTORIA of course its for all immigrants. people are just upset that it will unfairly target the hispanic population. i mean, hispanics account for about 75% or so of illegal immigrants so its pretty obvious theyll be targeted.

Yep. For the most part, outside of Hispanics, no other nationalities/ethnic groups get hit with the "illegal immigrants are criminals" stereotypes.

So this will only increase racial profiling of Hispanics.

All white people are already American.

actually we're all american, if you go by continental nomenclature. but we aren't all amurrrkanstarsnstripesnationundergawdya'll.

Originally Posted by cindersphere Kids already get targeted to disclose immigration status. This will just give immigration happy schools authority to try to glean immigration information from their parents when they enter their kids into schools. Little johnny doesn't have a official id card yet, lets call the INS office and report the family because he could be an illegal immigrant.

Only if the school wants to lose funding. I read this article about school complaining parents using fake address to get their kids enroll, but dont want to kick them out since fewer students means they get less funding.

Anti-immigration assholes always find new targets, at one time even Irish immigrants were thought of as scum, when was the last time you heard anyone say "dem Irish are takin' our jerbs." They always find new targets.

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Originally Posted by JolietJake Anti-illegal immigrant assholes always find new targets, at one time even Irish illegal immigrants were thought of as scum, when was the last time you heard anyone say "dem Irish are takin' our jerbs." They always find new targets.

Fixed for accuracy.

Most people don't mind immigrants. Most people mind law-breakers.

As much as some like you might wish - nobody is passing laws because they want less brown people; but for some reason that's the paintbrush used on those that want laws enforced by the bleeding heart left.

If only the tea party protesters got at least this out of control:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn0HdZlIDKQ

We'd have several days of headlines and an entire week of John Stewart's pretentious ranting over it.

...

Y'know The Daily Show dedicated about half an episode to talking about the "crazy tea partiers" thing was a media-created image, right?

If only we could see if people would be as pissed off about illegal white Europeans being here.

But no, to me it seems that these people are using the law as cover for what they really want, mainly for immigration to be slowed or halted altogether. Because whenever i hear someone up in arms about jobs being taken away, i never hear them say illegal Mexicans, it's just Mexicans. Which in and of itself is ridiculous, as if all hispanic people were from Mexico.

Originally Posted by thrustbucket Fixed for accuracy. Most people don't mind immigrants. Most people mind law-breakers.

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Those police officers walking with someone they had arrested was a "violent riot" based on the title? And evidence, according to thrust, that the protest was "out of control"?

Come the on. Hatebreed concerts are more out of control than that. , black friday sales are more violent than that. That was one person being arrested and walked away by police while a whole bunch of other people followed.

Originally Posted by mykevermin Those police officers walking with someone they had arrested was a "violent riot" based on the title? And evidence, according to thrust, that the protest was "out of control"? Come the on. Hatebreed concerts are more out of control than that. , black friday sales are more violent than that. That was one person being arrested and walked away by police while a whole bunch of other people followed.

Agreed, that video could have been mistaken for the "Walk for a Cure to (insert some horrible affliction)".

Originally Posted by JolietJake If only we could see if people would be as pissed off about illegal white Europeans being here. But no, to me it seems that these people are using the law as cover for what they really want, mainly for immigration to be slowed or halted altogether. Because whenever i hear someone up in arms about jobs being taken away, i never hear them say illegal Mexicans, it's just Mexicans. Which in and of itself is ridiculous, as if all hispanic people were from Mexico.

I personally haven't heard anyone complaining about immigration using "mexicans stealing jobs" in their language. I'm not say it's not out there, but I hear an awful lot of people claiming that's what is said, but I've never heard anyone really say it.

Most people are not upset at the illegal immigrants themselves. They are upset at the government for refusing to enforce their own laws. The illegal immigrants are just taking advantage of the giant 5 decade "wink wink" from the US government, and why shouldn't they?

You can come here illegally and not only be winked at but defended by most of the left, or you can try to come here legally and spend several years and thousands of dollars you likely don't have. Hard choice.

Originally Posted by mykevermin Those police officers walking with someone they had arrested was a "violent riot" based on the title? And evidence, according to thrust, that the protest was "out of control"? Come the on. Hatebreed concerts are more out of control than that. , black friday sales are more violent than that. That was one person being arrested and walked away by police while a whole bunch of other people followed.

Walking? They were throwing shit at the cops. Or did you miss that? If any sort of contention with cops happened at a Tea Party rally it would be big news. As one to wear his "racial issue witchunt" patch on his arm proudly, you should know this.

Better find another video, the one you posted and the one you think you saw are not the same.

Originally Posted by JolietJake If only we could see if people would be as pissed off about illegal white Europeans being here. But no, to me it seems that these people are using the law as cover for what they really want, mainly for immigration to be slowed or halted altogether. Because whenever i hear someone up in arms about jobs being taken away, i never hear them say illegal Mexicans, it's just Mexicans. Which in and of itself is ridiculous, as if all hispanic people were from Mexico.

Agreed. There are plenty who are just opposed to illegal immigration, want better border security etc.

But there are also plenty who'd just like immigration slowed or halted period for racist reasons. These are the types who want these types of laws, tight border security and stricter immigration allowances and would never go for the real solution of tigher border security and more liberal immigration policies to let more Hispanics in legally.

myke, try watching more then 40 seconds of the video before making a stupid comment.

Well the video is actually only about 30 seconds long, then it repeats and then starts to repeat again.

People are definitely throwing some shit in various directions, probably towards the cops. To call it a riot seems a bit melodramatic though.

throwing a cup, or a crumpled bag isn't a riot. protest maybe?

when I think of riot... damage, personal or private, people throwing rocks or bricks for intended harm.