Originally Posted by arcane93 That's never going to happen, though. Face it, we're not GameStop's core customer base. Their core customer base is soccer moms looking for something to get their brats to shut up for a few days. It's teenagers who have saved up their allowance to get the new sports game. And those people don't care. As long as those people don't care, and keep giving GameStop their money, GameStop isn't going to change what they're doing. So really, there's no point at all in calling for a boycott or whatever. If you can't live with what they are, then don't shop there. As I've said before, I'll only buy from them when the deal is significantly better than I can get anywhere else -- when that's the case, I'm willing to put up with a gutted game (as long as it's in good condition otherwise) or whatever. If you can't handle that, though, just go somewhere else.

I wasn't calling for a boycott of their stores and I actually DO shop there for a bunch of stuff, though ONLY when I have cheap credit built up.

Otherwise, they're just another MSRP-Mart(WalMart clone)and the only good deals are when there's a glitch in their system that we can exploit(39% off deal recently).

But one thing I won't stand for usually is gutted games, unless I'm buying them with the aforementioned cheap credit. But as soon as I'm paying any portion in cash to them, it better be sealed or I don't need that game at that point(from them anyway).

Managed to grab the last copy of the Fallout trilogy for a cool eight bucks.

It looks like some of their games are back to normal price and some of them are on ultra clearance.

Picked up the last copy of House of the Dead Overkill at my store for 12.99. I'm also really tempted to snag a copy of Persona 4.

Originally Posted by A Happy Panda No one said boycott.

I have to disagree; that's pretty much exactly what you're saying here:

Originally Posted by A Happy Panda Seriously. I implore people to NEVER go back to offending Gamestops.

Boycott: To abstain, either as an individual or group, from using, buying, or dealing with someone or some organisation as an expression of protest.

So if what you're calling for isn't a boycott, what do you call refusing to go back to a store in protest for an experience that you've had there?

And no, I'm not saying that there's anything unreasonable about refusing to go back to a store that does something really major. There are certainly stores out there that I won't go back to. Not being able to find the case and manual for one game, though, doesn't really strike me as meriting such a strong stance.

Originally Posted by A Happy Panda And if you want gutted games, that's fine. But for those who like their games to be actually new, that's an issue.

I don't think anyone said they "want" gutted games. I said that if the deal is good enough (i.e. significantly better than I can get on the game anywhere else), and the game/case/manual is in like-new condition other than being opened, I'm willing to grudgingly accept it. That being said, GameStop has lost a lot of business from me that they'd probably get otherwise, in cases where the deal hasn't been good enough for me to accept it.

Originally Posted by A Happy Panda I also don't think anyone claimed every Gamestop was an offender.

Nope, I don't think anyone did.

Originally Posted by A Happy Panda In my previous post, if one of your local GS does something that pisses you off (doesn't give TIVs over the phone, sells gutted as new and advertises it as new) just don't shop at that particular Gamestop.

In other words, boycott them. I mean, hey, you decide what you think is bad enough to merit that, of course. That being said, doesn't "sells gutted as new" describe pretty much every GameStop out there? I don't think I've ever been in a GameStop that doesn't gut games.

Aaaand wow. I'm utterly blown away at the time and effort you've taken to copy and paste quotes from my posts to take an argument with a stranger on the internet to such lengths. No problem with disagreeing with people on the internet, but that amount of effort is new to me.

You win. But I still maintain I never said boycott the entire company. I said "offending Gamestops" and "if one of your local GS."

If some punk ass clerk is gonna look me in the eye and say "what, you're not going to buy it just because it doesn't have a case/manual?" I'm gonna say no, and leave and never go back to that store. Or if some clerk is going to try to sell me a gutted game as new? Not going back. It doesn't matter if the game is still mint or whatever. I expect a discount as soon as that shrink wrap is broken.

To be clear, my big issue isn't with the gutting (which is still stupid) but its when they try to sell gutted as new, and as some others have said, sell it as new even without the case or manual.

But I'm done arguing. Thread is way off topic, and from what I've seen, you probably wouldn't stop if I didn't.

You win.

Um, yeah, so much time and effort involved in hitting the "multi-quote" button. That post took a whole two minutes (at most) to write!

Anyway, yeah, discussion is pointless because you 1) aren't reading what I'm saying, you're reading what you want to read (as is made clear by the fact that you're still going on about "the entire company" when I never once said that, and even acknowledged in my last post that we weren't talking about that), and 2) are clearly over-reactionary anyway (as is made clear by -- well, just about everything).

Back to our regularly scheduled programming . . .

Originally Posted by scottman I remember when toys r us used to just put the front/back box art flat on ring hangers all along the walls and shelves, with tickets below each game. You take the ticket to buy the game from a back store room. Huge aisles of just box art on the walls. Those were the days.

I miss those days so much.

I *think* one store near here still uses the old method. That was kind of fun. Oooooh, remember those glass cases filled with the game systems? I remember drooling over those all-powerful Genesis, Turbographix, TurboCD, etc. systems. MAN. I'd love to go back in time with the ability to just buy whatever I wanted, and stock up on all that stuff. So many great games (as if I don't have enough great games now! Still, I love thinking about all that stuff-I think most of us could still have a great time playing just NES and 16-bit stuff).

Originally Posted by Wolfpup I *think* one store near here still uses the old method. That was kind of fun. Oooooh, remember those glass cases filled with the game systems? I remember drooling over those all-powerful Genesis, Turbographix, TurboCD, etc. systems. MAN. I'd love to go back in time with the ability to just buy whatever I wanted, and stock up on all that stuff. So many great games (as if I don't have enough great games now! Still, I love thinking about all that stuff-I think most of us could still have a great time playing just NES and 16-bit stuff).

Absolutely. I still do infact. I have nearly all of my original Genesis and SNES titles with system still perfectly intact.

There are a few games I traded away back in the day that I regret though.

Originally Posted by scottman I remember when toys r us used to just put the front/back box art flat on ring hangers all along the walls and shelves, with tickets below each game. You take the ticket to buy the game from a back store room. Huge aisles of just box art on the walls. Those were the days.

I actually know of several Toys R'Us stores that still did things this way the last time I visited either.

The one out by the Lycoming Mall out in Williamsport(PA) and one up in Johnson City(NY) both still had this system the last time I was to either.

As for the classic stuff, I used to have everything mint/complete in every gen AFTER the Atari 2600 days, when I used to be like the now typical GS customer and chuck out the packaging/instructions and just keep the cartridges.

I too regret trading some of the prior gen games away as well, since some are worth damn good money now.

Could it be the nicer Toy's R Uses that still use the old system? Because the fancier one in a neighboring town does, but the one in mine that seems much older uses the new one.

Originally Posted by CAiNiACprime Absolutely. I still do infact. I have nearly all of my original Genesis and SNES titles with system still perfectly intact. There are a few games I traded away back in the day that I regret though.

Possibly the game I regret the most is Dragon Force. I spent MONTHS plaything through it, and then sold it right afterwords. How dumb is that? One of my favorite...what RTS? Strategy games? It's awesome.

I'd like Starflight back too. Dang, I'd like a port of Starflight and Star Control 2, among others.

bioshock is $10.99 new, is this an online deal or is it that price in stores too, it says it is a price drop of $4. and the used price is 17.99?

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Originally Posted by jab1235 bioshock is $10.99 new, is this an online deal or is it that price in stores too, it says it is a price drop of $4. and the used price is 17.99?

Its the Final Days clearance price. You won't find it in stock in line, but the price is valid in store as well.

Just be aware that some stores may be out of stock from the Game Days sale, or only have one or two gutted copies left.

Originally Posted by Wolfpup Could it be the nicer Toy's R Uses that still use the old system? Because the fancier one in a neighboring town does, but the one in mine that seems much older uses the new one. Possibly the game I regret the most is Dragon Force. I spent MONTHS plaything through it, and then sold it right afterwords. How dumb is that? One of my favorite...what RTS? Strategy games? It's awesome. I'd like Starflight back too. Dang, I'd like a port of Starflight and Star Control 2, among others.

SC2 ftw..I remember getting my SC1 copy from a buddy on a classic 3.5"

Originally Posted by jterp7 SC2 ftw..I remember getting my SC1 copy from a buddy on a classic 3.5"

I have my Star Control 2 Copy 3DO version still with me.

I almost killed my uncle a few years back when he dropped my Panny 3DO during a move.

Never going to ask him to help out again.

*Anyway* I also grabbed Starflight for the Sega Genesis a few months back off of eBay in mint condition....along with Centurion and The Immortal.

Funny how I have got a backlog of like 50 games and yet I dont mind just sitting in front of my TV and playing Genesis games (or SNES etc.) for hours and that backlog just keeps getting longer.

My wife says I have turned from 'Gamer' to 'Collector'.

Originally Posted by CAiNiACprime Its the Final Days clearance price. You won't find it in stock in line, but the price is valid in store as well. Just be aware that some stores may be out of stock from the Game Days sale, or only have one or two gutted copies left.

eh, gutted is fine with me, it says it's in stock in a few stores around me.

Originally Posted by jab1235 bioshock is $10.99 new, is this an online deal or is it that price in stores too, it says it is a price drop of $4. and the used price is 17.99?

Wow, $11 is awesome for Bioshock if you don't own it yet. Pretty much a must play if you like shooters or Deus Ex-y type games.

Originally Posted by jterp7 SC2 ftw..I remember getting my SC1 copy from a buddy on a classic 3.5"

Originally Posted by IronsideGrunt I have my Star Control 2 Copy 3DO version still with me. I almost killed my uncle a few years back when he dropped my Panny 3DO during a move. Never going to ask him to help out again. *Anyway* I also grabbed Starflight for the Sega Genesis a few months back off of eBay in mint condition....along with Centurion and The Immortal. Funny how I have got a backlog of like 50 games and yet I dont mind just sitting in front of my TV and playing Genesis games (or SNES etc.) for hours and that backlog just keeps getting longer. My wife says I have turned from 'Gamer' to 'Collector'.

Dang, yeah I had Star Control 1 for the Genesis, and Star Flight, and Star Control 2 for the 3D0. SUCH awesome games. I'd like remakes of those, or rereleases, or true sequels. Heck, the DS is a whole generation past the Genesis...they could theoretically do an even better game...not that it'll happen.

Star Flight and Star Control 2 kind of remind me of Mass Effect. Privateer was good too, but I kind of preferred 2D, and I liked those games better. Dang...that should be brought to a portable or something too, if they don't do a remake...

didnt know today was clearance =/

so i went ahead and bought LBP online

Originally Posted by Wolfpup Wow, $11 is awesome for Bioshock if you don't own it yet. Pretty much a must play if you like shooters or Deus Ex-y type games.

Yeah, I ran out and grabbed it the other day. I almost grabbed it for $15 when the sale started but I've been holding off for a while due to a backlog with higher priorities.

I absolutely had to bite at that price.