OMG this game. I can't take going through the same enemies 20 f'ing times just to die at the boss again and again. It stopped being fun at the 15th time.

Originally Posted by basilofbkrst OMG this game. I can't take going through the same enemies 20 f'ing times just to die at the boss again and again. It stopped being fun at the 15th time.

I'm guessing Flamelurker or tower Knight? There's usually a lot of soul signs for blue phantoms available right before those bosses. Use a Stone of Ephemeral Eyes and summon some help right before the boss if you can't get past on your own; it really helps.

Flamelurker isn't too bad if you take the right fork at the start and jump down the shaft. Man, if I had to take the twisty tunnel on the left ALL THE WAY DOWN every time I died at flamelurker I would have gone mad with rage too.

But really, if they are going to punish you so badly for deaths I wish they made more use of the mechanics like the dropping heart in 3-2, the large boss gate in 1-1, and the bypass plank in 5-2 to place boss battles/shortcuts closer to the starting point of the level once you performed a certain action in the course of playing the level.

3-1 and 4-1 have decent shortcuts as welll. At least, 4-1 has a shortcut (if you find it) and 3-1 you can get to the boss by only fighting I think 1 or 2 enemies once you have all the keys.

I always went down the twisty tunnels when fighting Flamelurker because I could never get down the pit correctly without dying, except maybe once.

Originally Posted by Backlash 3-1 and 4-1 have decent shortcuts as welll. At least, 4-1 has a shortcut (if you find it) and 3-1 you can get to the boss by only fighting I think 1 or 2 enemies once you have all the keys. I always went down the twisty tunnels when fighting Flamelurker because I could never get down the pit correctly without dying, except maybe once.

Ya, that's where the messages left by players are really helpful in knowing where to jump to next. When I went into offline mode to do the black world tendency and white world tendency events I had a horrible time finding the way down without the messages to guide me. Cranking up the brightness would likely be quite helpful (something I only ended up doing in that HORRIBLE 5-2 level)

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What class would you guys suggest? I picked wanderer but I'm not sure if I should change to Sage or something else.

Eventually you can make it into whatever you want by raising your stats in different ways, so the only thing that matters is your starting equipment and spells for the first few levels (and especially the first level, since you can't level up until you beat it). The general consensus is that the royal class is by far the easiest, since you start with a good spell and a ring that regenerates magic.

Originally Posted by depascal22 What class would you guys suggest? I picked wanderer but I'm not sure if I should change to Sage or something else.

I suggest either Royalty or Hunter as a beginner class. Both comes with decent range attacks which are really useful throughout the entire game, although Royalty is a tad bit better with the Magic Arrow and Mana regeneration wand.

Thanks, guys. I'll try out Royalty.

Ha, finally killed my first invader (had been playing in Soul Form but started playing in body to kill a BP invader to finish getting the friend ring). His shield and sphere vs. my Moonsword and shield. With the rolling around we dropped down into a long narrow corridor (near the gate the Fat Minister closes) in 1-3 so I had to rely on R2 overhead smash.

There was a moment he was waiting on the ledge below me for me to drop down so he could go for a back stab. I so wished I had God's Wrath equipped then. he would have gotten punted back to his death over the edge.

Also if you have a bow/magic attack, Tower Knight can be done pretty easy. As soon as the fight starts rush past him up the stairs and kill all the archers. Up on the wall peak over the edge wait for him to drop his guard to charge up the Lance attack. Plunk him with your ranged attack then duck back so the Lance strikes the ledge.

Originally Posted by depascal22 Thanks, guys. I'll try out Royalty.

Royalty is a great choice for beginners. You have a decent magic attack - starting level is 4 (i believe) & the magic regen ring is the icing on the cake!

Originally Posted by guynextshore Royalty is a great choice for beginners. You have a decent magic attack - starting level is 4 (i believe) & the magic regen ring is the icing on the cake!

I agree, I started as a royal and used the soul arrow (your starting spell) throughout quite a bit of the game, as it's decently powerful and uses very little MP.

Royal starts at soul level 1 though.

http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/royal

Originally Posted by mang9432 I agree, I started as a royal and used the soul arrow (your starting spell) throughout quite a bit of the game, as it's decently powerful and uses very little MP. Royal starts at soul level 1 though. http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/royal

Oh that's correct, I mixed royalty with temple knight (what I'm currently using).

I started as temple knight and eventually made a royal because I found way too many people play melee classes and not enough archers and mages. Magic users seem easier for new players to play. Melee seems very dependent on understanding the weapons, upgrades, geckos, and world tendency. Many of the bosses are also weak to magic.

I just have the 1-4 boss left who is resistant to magic, but I'm sure I'll kill him after a few tries.

If you like helping people, running through 1-3 and 4-2 are a great way to earn souls. 4-1 is ok too, but I had a lot of people get one shotted by the boss. If you don't want to effect world tendency kill yourself in the nexus to become a blue phantom.

Originally Posted by wakawakawa I started as temple knight and eventually made a royal because I found way too many people play melee classes and not enough archers and mages. Magic users seem more easier for new players to play. Melee seems very dependent on understanding the weapons, upgrades, geckos, and world tendency. Many of the bosses are also weak to magic. I just have the 1-4 boss left who is resistant to magic, but I'm sure I'll kill him after a few tries. If you like helping people, running through 1-3 and 4-2 are a great way to earn souls. 4-1 is ok too, but I had a lot of people get one shotted by the boss. If you don't want to effect world tendency kill yourself in the nexus to become a blue phantom.

I was at the same stand as you are, however magic built also depends on the type of weapon upgrades and character development you use (faith, magic, etc). I suppose you find less of them considering I know a lot of people like carrying those giant swords and shields.
I personally prefer using bow & arrows than spam magic (gives a much better range to snip monsters). But, I see a lot of AoE spells being used in PvP battles.

1-3, 1-4 & world 4 seems to be the best place I like to help people - considering it seems (to me) that's where most people try to invade as well.

Originally Posted by wakawakawa I just have the 1-4 boss left who is resistant to magic, but I'm sure I'll kill him after a few tries.

I used a mage-type character and found that fighting the 1-4 boss with a spear was fairly easy (I was using a +5 moonlight spear, actually, but it seemed to do pretty good damage).

One thing I couldn't find the answer to...

How does newgame+ work with summoning and invading? Are original game and new game+ players separated or does summoning and invading only look at soul level?? I've been summoned to a few players game where the enemies seemed much harder (I'm around soul lvl 100), so I was wondering if they had pure black WT or if I was summoned into a newgame+ game.

Soul Level is the only factor that matters when playing multiplayer

I stopped playing a month and a half ago, I really need to finish it.