Originally Posted by XXXplosive1 Cheapy, I tried everything for my son to get potty trained. What finally worked was me putting him in underwear exclusively and when he shit his pants instead of going on the pot, have him wear the shit draws for about an hour so he new how uncomfortable it would be. Only had to do that for one day and it worked. Good luck with Tai.

Ha! That's pretty good.. how did you get the idea past the Mom? Still.. that's great. Quality 1960's parenting. None of this 'if you go in your pants you don't get to hear the song that plays from the kiddy toilet'. Love it.. might try that with my kid if 's still a problem when she's older... not sure how the wife would feel though.

Howdy,
I'm glad Cheapy apologised like everyone else is saying, but I don't think he's an arsehole in general.
I caught up with Cheapy last year in Japan when we went to visit and he was very friendly indeed. I'm not a huge forum-ite or anything on here, but he was very forthcoming to my wife and me when basically he had no idea who I was, apart from being a listener to the show.
I'm dissapointed I didn't try and say g'day to Wombat when I was in New York 2 years ago.. oh well.. maybe oneday.
And lets not forget Shipwreck either...

Anyway.. keep up the good work guys and I'm glad things are sorted out...

cheers!
braden

I think Wombat was being a dick in this ep, just as much as Cheapy was in the last ep. The only difference is that come next week, we won't be hearing any apology from Wombat.

Cheapy apologized sincerely right at the start and Wombat just wouldn't let him live it down. He kept making little comments like "nobody likes you" and even pulled out that list of comments.

When someone apologizes you either forgive them or you don't. If you forgive him, you need to let it go and stop trying to get even.

I only mention this because I'm really digging the CAGcast as of late (minus the hosts bickering like old women or teenage girls)

Isn't it time for some PC coverage on the CAGcast? If this podcast is to help grow the CAG community adding some PC talk might help. I know, I know out of the three of you no one owns a gaming PC.

One of you guys need to buy a pre-built system or give a member of the CAG PC community a short segment.

A case without any evidence isn't much of a case.

Exhibit A.
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/...d.php?t=265457
Also known as the most active CAG thread over the past week and a few days.

Exhibit B.
Blizzard is going to have the two top grossing games this year (WOW and SCII) which are both PC exclusives.

Closing argument:
PC gaming on Windows 7 is easier than on the 360 or PS3. If a game comes out broken, games are patched without going through PSN or XBLA approval process which can take months (see Castle Crashers). Steam ensures you get these patches without even having to launch the game. I've heard on previous podcasts that getting games to run on the PC platform just takes too much time. This was totally true 10 years ago, but as consoles have gradually turned into mini-computers and PCs have turned into a more stable gaming platform there really isn't much of a difference.

I could go on about what your options are if a PC component stops working versus if a console component stops working, but I'll leave the jury to ponder that one.

Originally Posted by 52club Isn't it time for some PC coverage on the CAGcast?

I would also like to see this. Cheapy has mentioned that he was going to get a gaming rig after he moved house.

Great show, guys! I think that this was probably one of my favorite shows to listen to in recent memory. It seemed to flow really well.

This episode sucked. I dont care about Wombat's feelings

Originally Posted by collipop I would also like to see this. Cheapy has mentioned that he was going to get a gaming rig after he moved house.

We are much better off having no PC coverage at all from these guys than half-assed PC coverage full of factual errors and weird assumptions. The CAGcast is good the way it is, and I really hope Cheapy didn't blow any cash on a gaming rig if APB was the PC-exclusive he really wanted to play.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/apb?q=apb

Try the PC Gamer podcasts, US and UK, and see if you like them, instead.

This should have been the intro:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRGd0gD0QNE

Originally Posted by Curufinwe We are much better off having no PC coverage at all from these guys than half-assed PC coverage full of factual errors and weird assumptions. The CAGcast is good the way it is, and I really hope Cheapy didn't blow any cash on a gaming rig if APB was the PC-exclusive he really wanted to play. http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/apb?q=apb Try the PC Gamer podcasts, US and UK, and see if you like them, instead.

What weird assumption/errors? He plays a PC game and gives his opinion on the CAGcast. There's no errors in that.

Really Wombat? I just felt uncomfortable the past two episodes. Wombat you are milking the cats nipples too hard. The list of what people thought of Cheapy was a bit childish... It just made me feel like I was gossiping. I can vaguely get your position, but he seemed harmless and you keep digging into him this time. Wombat, you were pretty dickish to Ship when he started and he didn't whine. Love the show guys, just get along and bring the chuckles! The podcast is outstanding and I've grown to look forward to it every week. Finally signed up after this weeks.

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Besides none of us being PC gamers, I think the main stumbling block for covering them on the show is trying to keep all three hosts interested in talking about them. If one of us were to get a gaming rig, the other two would have a really hard time caring about games they will likely never play. That said, I'm going to guess OnLive will open up some discussion on the show in the near future.

Maybe do a pre-recorded PC minute with one of the CAG PC enthusiasts highlighting one PC game between segments?

I will admit OnLive might duplicate a portion of the PC experience, it is highly unlikely it will duplicate the thrill of picking up a game dirt cheap on Steam (like Borderlands and all the DLC for around $20), and playing it immediately after it downloads. OnLive will stream a purchase immediately, but its bottleneck, internet speed/caps, will be a serious bottleneck that will be difficult if not impossible for many CAGs to fix, versus upgrading a hardware is an "easier" fix for most PC enthusiasts.

Ship, I respect the time the three of you take to do the podcast, cover games, and participate in the community (while only one of you actually makes a living based on CAG). As the consoles grow older, and as Steam continues to expand as the best online retailer my guess is more CAGs will move into PC/MAC gaming. Maybe that guy that makes a living of the web site could set you or Wombat with some mid-range PCs to play most budget titles.

Originally Posted by Curufinwe We are much better off having no PC coverage at all from these guys than half-assed PC coverage full of factual errors and weird assumptions. The CAGcast is good the way it is, and I really hope Cheapy didn't blow any cash on a gaming rig if APB was the PC-exclusive he really wanted to play. http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/pc/apb?q=apb Try the PC Gamer podcasts, US and UK, and see if you like them, instead.

While the CAG crew are not exactly in tune with PC gaming I don't think its a reason to not discuss it at all.

I don't really post a lot on this site, or comment on the podcast (which I have been enjoying for a couple years!), but I had to come here and say I thought Wombat acted like a whiny, petty douche in this episode.

In the previous show when Cheapy managed to offend Wombat with a frank comment about how he didn't feel like he actually knew Wombat THAT well since part of getting to know someone includes things you can only get face to face. I've had plenty of online buddies, and when I've met a few of them, it wasn't instant chemistry. I know what Cheapy was saying in that show, and it shouldn't have been taken as offense by Wombat. Maybe if Cheapy actually DID know Wombat better, he would have known that Wombat has a sensitive vag and would probably read into a vague comment something that isn't there and get pouty about it.

This type of thing happens; not everyone's emotions or ways of interpreting things are calibrated the same way. Maybe Cheapy shouldn't have even ventured into those waters with that comment, but it happened, and this episode's apology was the right thing to do, even if I think Wombat shouldn't be upset anyway.

Having to apologize like that, publicly, on air, is a tough thing to do, and took a decent amount of humility on Cheapy's part. It wasn't fun, I imagine. But then Wombat goes and actively DOES RESEARCH in order to compile a list of people shitting on Cheapy. What a petty, childish thing to do. It was obvious Cheapy did not intend to offend with his remarks last show, but Wombat gets his apology, plus an intentional stab at Cheapy. It's pretty disgusting and really disappointing.

I think you're the one with extra sensitive vagina. Get over it already.

I'm surprised Cheapy didn't come to the conclusion that Robert Ashley must be a pothead due to his voice since that's what everybody would say during the GFW Radio days. If Cheapy wants a good podcast, he should check out the Drunk Tank podcast that Rooster Teeth does, which should have all of the over-the-top co-worker hatred he could ask for so he won't have to take it out on Wombat ever again.

Good show.

To my speculation both wombat and Cheapy are in the wrong with that podcast the other week, cheapy used the wrong phrases as it sometimes happens and wombat took it wrong but wombat shouldnt have took it so openly in the podcast to call attention to himself, yes it must have been hurtfull but I have been through alot of situations like that and I either just sucked it up or brought it up around closed doors.

Even all that wombat should be graciuosly humble toward cheapy beacuse he took time out to think about the situation alot , most people wouldnt have done such a thing or gave it a second thought.

PS I dont beleve cheap is " offputting" or " standoffish" in any way he seems like hes a character that you have to get to know for him to open up.

You guys really want to know what Cheapy is all about.?

Ok check this out, I know Cheapy D personally, and when I say personally, I mean it like the way Cheapy knows Wombat...I don't really know him all that well. But, I have met him and Shipwreck at E3 the past 3 years, and Cheapy has always been very cool.

Shipwreck really opened up this year; he seemed very energetic and eager to meet his listeners. Very nice guy, but he can't rap.

First impressions of Wombat: He is small and funny looking, but I think it was the red vest that made him look funny. But none the less he was willing to rap on camera, even though he stole Cheapy's Raps. He was also willing to do dance with our crew and a bum outside the bar, so that should tell you what kind of guy Wombat is, he is fun!

But here is the real example on how good of a friend Cheapy is to Wombat.

During the CAG party at E3, I commented on Wombat's size to Cheapy, on how I thought Wombat was smaller in person. Cheapy D almost seemed bothered by the comment, and replied "no he's not". Again, I tried to convince Cheapy on Wombat's size and Cheapy again seemed bothered and reply with the same answer, but this time with a much more fierce voice 'no he is not'.

So there you have it Wombat, Cheapy, although knowing that you are small, defended you and proved that he is a great friend, and cares for you by sticking up for you.

On another note, for those calling Cheapy D standoffish, I think it all boils down to the type of person you are. If you are intimidated by him, then he might seem like a douche, but if you actually treat him like a friend and actually approach him and talk to him like a man, you might think differently.

I can't stand all the Wombat stroking. He has no problem giving shit to other people but when it comes to him he is "sensitive." Wombat is a douche bag and he can't take a joke.