Took my Surround back. That is the hottest phone I've ever owned. I would barely be doing anything with it and it would be blazing hot. Also didn't care about not being able to download ringtones. I'll wait a bit before I decide to give it another try.

Posting this from my HTC HD7. I forgot sometimes that this site does have other threads besides deals. So I decided to see if there was any talk of WP7 and here I am.

Absolutely love the phone. What I've been expecting and more since I've been following it since first announced.

Originally Posted by sleepydumbdude Took my Surround back. That is the hottest phone I've ever owned. I would barely be doing anything with it and it would be blazing hot. Also didn't care about not being able to download ringtones. I'll wait a bit before I decide to give it another try.

I would go with the focus, the screen is so freaking nice. Plus I have never noticed it get hot at all ever. Even after a half hour of playing games via Xbox LIVE on it.

Oregon Trail is up! 4.99

I wonder if it was up early today...im curious if XBL game will be restricted to Wednesday releases.

Originally Posted by seanr1221 Oregon Trail is up! 4.99 I wonder if it was up early today...im curious if XBL game will be restricted to Wednesday releases.

Actually it was out 2 days ago along with Assassin's Creed. Maybe it is only on Wednesdays.

LOL I just saw this commercial last night, ATT and Verizon, the 2 most over priced providers ever.

Going to wait until they fix the SD thing before I get the focus. Also would like to see what they are going to do about downloadable ringtones.

Originally Posted by sleepydumbdude Took my Surround back. That is the hottest phone I've ever owned. I would barely be doing anything with it and it would be blazing hot. Also didn't care about not being able to download ringtones. I'll wait a bit before I decide to give it another try.

LMAO! Sounds like Micro$hit succeeded at their campaign to have at least one person put down their phone and "get back to life".

Originally Posted by VipFREAK LMAO! Sounds like Micro$hit succeeded at their campaign to have at least one person put down their phone and "get back to life".

Guess what. The phone getting hot would be due to the phone's designer, not Microsoft. And man, that was a stupid post, dude. You should pat yourself on the back if that's what you were going for.

Just being as cleaver as they are with their advertising. It's fun stuff really.

Originally Posted by eastx Guess what. The phone getting hot would be due to the phone's designer, not Microsoft. And man, that was a stupid post, dude. You should pat yourself on the back if that's what you were going for.

Stop trying to make sense, man. There's no place for that on internet message boards.

Originally Posted by sleepydumbdude Going to wait until they fix the SD thing before I get the focus. Also would like to see what they are going to do about downloadable ringtones.

There will be update sometime in January

Originally Posted by mtxbass1 Are there any other Windows Phone 7 developers here, or just end users?

I am in the process of developing in SilverLight for WP7 for some business apps but I am so darn busy have yet to try to develop a game but I have some Italian Card games I learned as a kid that I would love to develop

I just picked up the Focus this weekend after my girlfriend sent my iPhone 3g for a swim while it was charging, frying it and the SIM.

It was a toss-up between the iPhone 4 and the Focus, and while I'm familiar with the iPhone, I wanted to try something different (and getting an additional $50 off helped too).

After a few days of having it, I love it. The screen is amazing, the UI is sleek and smooth, and I've always preferred the Zune interface to the iPod's. Also, I have yet to drop a single call, or even lose coverage in the same spots where my iPhone failed me constantly.

My complaints?

1) Charging is a pain. Via USB it isn't feasible, is it barely outputs enough to keep up with the phone's consumption. So the only real way to charge is from the wall or the car charger. On the plus side, you can sync the phone wirelessly, so long as you have your PC on a wifi network. After 10 minutes plugged into the wall, the phone connects with the Zune software to sync. This feature is pretty snazzy.

2) Lack of apps. Some of my favorite apps from the iPhone are not available. Seeing as the phone has only been out a few weeks, I'm certain this will change in the near future, for the most part.

3) Custom ringtones. The selection of ringtones on the phone is pretty large, but they're all rather generic. But from I've read, as well as what is posted above, the update in January will tackle this, along with many other issues.

There are a few other little annoyances, but nothing I can't adjust to.

both phones (focus & surround) look and seem poorly designed and made. For that price, i'd wait it out and i'm sticking to my iphone 4 for now. I had big hopes for this idea but i'll pass on it. It seems to be more like a Zune HD Phone. I guess it is catering to those who want to play games on the go and earn achievements as well while on the go and what not.

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Don't know where you're getting that opinion, Intoxicated. Reviews of the Focus are almost entirely positive.

Anybody try to LG Quantum? I'm interested in its keyboard, though the 3.5 inch screen (as opposed to 4 inches like other models) is a downer.

I feel like this kind of waters down the meaning of the Xbox 360 achievement system in some ways. Of course, I think that about including PC games as well.... Oh well, whatever.

Yeah, but a lot of things already water down the meaning, anyway. You have games with insanely easy achievements, like that Last Airbender game where you can get all 1000 GS in a like a minute or something. And then you have people who boost and trade achievements, which kind of goes against the whole idea of "achieving" them.

Doesn't stop me from being an achievement whore. Just saying.

^ I agree but at least those things are done on the same platform. It doesn't stop me from having fun with it either though.

Achievements on the go? Funny, lol.