Originally Posted by Bazylik If you really knew how big DICE is I bet you wouldn't even make that comment. You give me BC Vietnam and Play4Free as an examples. lol. Give me a break. Valve announced HL2 and they released it 9 months later, that doesn't mean they only worked on HL2 9 months, does it? Because you didn't hear anything about BF3, it doesn't mean DICE hasn't been working on it. And since DICE does indeed have a huge ass staff, they could afford to have some staff deviate towards different projects (moh MP and BC2 Vietnam). Don't bring up Play4Free anymore please, that just makes you look silly. Have you even played that pos? And why do you sound so angry? You don't have to be always right with your assumptions, take it easy dude.

Originally Posted by slickkill77 Read the GI article. They've been working on BF 3 for a long time. Its say they started honing ideas for BF 3 back in 05 and they started working on the BF 3 engine after Bad Company 1 wrapped up. Dice is a really big studio. They've released a game(s) or expansion every year since BF 2 was released.

Please then explain to me why they don't have a) more than 2 screenshots showing actual footage, b) a trailer that actually runs that or other footage, c) an actual demo for press, .... If this was in production for that long ("in 05"), you should see all the above if not be in beta at this point (which again is far off).

I don't care if Play4Free is a pos; in fact I have never played it. It still took people time to create it.

As for Valve and Half-Life 2, Half-Life 2 was released Nov 04. That same year prior they only released Counterstrike Condition Zero (expansion) and Counterstrike Source (game copy with better graphics). Prior to that, their last release was in early 03 - Day of Defeat (a mod they turned into an expansion)... Prior to that, the year 2000. So all they did was monitor their steam store, work on future projects, and get sued (which doesn't affect those working on projects)... so they had plenty of free time to work on Half-Life 2 prior to announcement. Think of Half Life 2 like Diablo. Everyone knew there would be a 3 yet it is still being developed. You know that because Blizzard hasn't produced anything but Starcraft 2 in ages.

Supposely the team working on BF3 is their largest. Why would they bulk up a team if they didn't need them to churn out the project faster? With a project that "started in 05", they wouldn't need that.

Ubisoft Montreal is way larger than DICE (wikipedia estimate 1600 vs 300) and they only created 5 titles last year vs DICE's 4. I would say DICE was stretch thin at that point just based on comparable numbers.

We will agree to disagree. I am not angry though. It is just a discussion with different thoughts. A lot of us enjoyed Bad Company 2 vs those who didn't like it due to it not being exactly like BF2 (which spawn this convo).

Can't find that Battlefield: Bad Company (1) target render video that was in the Extras menu on YouTube...

Originally Posted by lordopus99 Please then explain to me why they don't have a) more than 2 screenshots showing actual footage, b) a trailer that actually runs that or other footage, c) an actual demo for press, .... If this was in production for that long ("in 05"), you should see all the above if not be in beta at this point (which again is far off).

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. =P

This is a very teste thread. I like it

Originally Posted by lordopus99 Please then explain to me why they don't have a) more than 2 screenshots showing actual footage, b) a trailer that actually runs that or other footage, c) an actual demo for press, .... If this was in production for that long ("in 05"), you should see all the above if not be in beta at this point (which again is far off). I don't care if Play4Free is a pos; in fact I have never played it. It still took people time to create it. As for Valve and Half-Life 2, Half-Life 2 was released Nov 04. That same year prior they only released Counterstrike Condition Zero (expansion) and Counterstrike Source (game copy with better graphics). Prior to that, their last release was in early 03 - Day of Defeat (a mod they turned into an expansion)... Prior to that, the year 2000. So all they did was monitor their steam store, work on future projects, and get sued (which doesn't affect those working on projects)... so they had plenty of free time to work on Half-Life 2 prior to announcement. Think of Half Life 2 like Diablo. Everyone knew there would be a 3 yet it is still being developed. You know that because Blizzard hasn't produced anything but Starcraft 2 in ages. Supposely the team working on BF3 is their largest. Why would they bulk up a team if they didn't need them to churn out the project faster? With a project that "started in 05", they wouldn't need that. Ubisoft Montreal is way larger than DICE (wikipedia estimate 1600 vs 300) and they only created 5 titles last year vs DICE's 4. I would say DICE was stretch thin at that point just based on comparable numbers. We will agree to disagree. I am not angry though. It is just a discussion with different thoughts. A lot of us enjoyed Bad Company 2 vs those who didn't like it due to it not being exactly like BF2 (which spawn this convo).

I give up. I don't know how to respond to this nonsense. *rises white flag*

He just likes to disagree with everyone apparently. Just give up.

Originally Posted by slickkill77 He just likes to disagree with everyone apparently. Just give up.

Everyone? Two people = everyone? Ok

You guys should just let it go. Just wait till you get your hands on the beta/final release before making assumptions about the game. The BC is a good series, if you say otherwise, your dumb. I never played BF2, but I have heard nothing but great things about it and wish I could/can play it.

I know for a fact that this game will not impress some of you and some of you will think this is a let down. Just wait till they release more info and a beta before going crazy.

I just wish they would treat the consoles as well as they are the PC on this project. I know I will get flammed for this, but not everybody wants to drop the big cash to run this game on the PC. I am fine with not having 64 players, but they could do a little better on having just 24 people. Will consoles get jets? Regardless, I am excited for this game and hope good things come from it.

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Originally Posted by fatmanforlife99 You guys should just let it go. Just wait till you get your hands on the beta/final release before making assumptions about the game. The BC is a good series, if you say otherwise, your dumb. I never played BF2, but I have heard nothing but great things about it and wish I could/can play it.

Your reading comprehension isn't that good, is it? Nobody here is saying that BC series is bad, just not that good when compared to BF2. It was said at least 10 times in this thread.

Originally Posted by Bazylik Your reading comprehension isn't that good, is it? Nobody here is saying that BC series is bad, just not that good when compared to BF2. It was said at least 10 times in this thread.

I guess you haven't checked out the thread yourself outside your comments with me.

Here are a few quotes by guys on "your" side.

Originally Posted by slickkill77 This is not a shitty bad company spin off

Originally Posted by traken Shitty. Yes.

And yes, slickkill ended up backing out of his original comment but that was after seeing a bunch of people calling him crazy. Traken, on the other hand, stayed with his comment.

I just personally can't wait to see your guys reactions when this most likely turns into Bad Company 3 with larger maps, prone, and jets.

Originally Posted by Bazylik Your reading comprehension isn't that good, is it? Nobody here is saying that BC series is bad, just not that good when compared to BF2. It was said at least 10 times in this thread.

LOL at this crazy guy. I have read every page to see what some of the user's thoughts on the game. Also, I am excited, as I never got to play BF2.

Originally Posted by lordopus99 And yes, slickkill ended up backing out of his original comment but that was after seeing a bunch of people calling him crazy. Traken, on the other hand, stayed with his comment.

I'm not sure what are you arguing here. You just summed up, what we've been saying all along. Those who played both games think that BC series is bad/shitty/sucks IN COMPARISON TO BF2 but stands on its own as a game. If you even read your bickering back and forth with traken, he explains, quite clearly, why BC2 sucks IN COMPARISON to BF2. I enjoy BC2 myself for what it is but it shouldn't be in anyway an inspiration for BF3 because it will suck as a true BF2 successor, just like most BF2 guys were disappointed with BC1. Going back to your comments I don't think you even played BF2, and if you have than not a lot because you have no clue what you are talking about. No wonder traken stopped arguing with you, it's a waste of time. In the end everyone is entitled to an opinion, yours in this case is just wrong.

Originally Posted by lordopus99 I just personally can't wait to see your guys reactions when this most likely turns into Bad Company 3 with larger maps, prone, and jets.

Simple. It will suck.

Originally Posted by fatmanforlife99 LOL at this crazy guy. I have read every page to see what some of the user's thoughts on the game.

LOL at me? You're the one who said:

Originally Posted by fatmanforlife99 The BC is a good series, if you say otherwise, your dumb."

So I told you that you can't read, because nobody said BC2 is bad as a game or a series. It's bad in comparison to BF2. *shrugs*

Oh, and if want to call someone dumb next time make sure you say/type "you're" not "your". That looks and sounds better.

Originally Posted by fatmanforlife99 Also, I am excited, as I never got to play BF2.

You missed out. It's still out there but it does feel dated by today's standards. But it's cheap and most PCs out there have no problem running it if you still want to check it out.

I loved playing BF2. Bad Company was fun but BC doesn't compare to BF2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi2tae2PmmU

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Originally Posted by lordopus99 I guess you haven't checked out the thread yourself outside your comments with me. Here are a few quotes by guys on "your" side. And yes, slickkill ended up backing out of his original comment but that was after seeing a bunch of people calling him crazy. Traken, on the other hand, stayed with his comment. I just personally can't wait to see your guys reactions when this most likely turns into Bad Company 3 with larger maps, prone, and jets.

I didn't back out of anything. I was clarifying what I meant. I don't know why you are so defensive about BC2. We all said we enjoyed the game, it just doesn't hold a candle to a normal Battlefield game. I don't see any place I "backed out" of my comments. I just got sick of arguing with you about it.

Skeet skeet skeet.

Originally Posted by slickkill77 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

That is amazing Link to blog.

I was wondering what the hell Game Informer was talking about in the article; I'm glad there's a glimpse of this now That has to be PC graphics for sure.

ooooooh!! do want! i think i might have to pre-order this.

Just for comparisons sake.....Battlefield 2 trailer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sv1qb...eature=related

I picked up Medal of Honor today from the Amazon Gold Box event for $20 pretty much solely so I can get into the beta. I'll check out the multiplayer, but would not have picked this up if it wasnt needed for the Beta invite.