I could never find anything to complain about with the CAGcast, how the hell do other people manage it?

I wonder what each of the CAG members would pick if they had to recommend only one out of an iPad or a 3DS?

If a 3DS is £200 and an iPad2 is £400 it seems like the logical choice is to just buy an iPad. If I wanted a gaming system that was truly portable I'd use my Android phone. If I wanted a handheld I'd buy an iPad because it's got a ton more functionality and the games are cheaper if not free!

Woo woo! All aboard the Cheapy hate train! First stop, Zune! Final destination Nintendo suck station!

One nice thing about Cheapy's iPhone boner, he doesn't have to use a condom for it!

Great show, guys!

Originally Posted by Maklershed Great CAGcast guys. Some thoughts: 2. Please don't take this personally Shipwreck. This comment is not against you - but I enjoyed hearing the two person CAGcast again. Its much more focused and succinct. And overall the conversation seemed much easier to follow.

Agreed. Its nothing against shipwreck but he does lack showmenship.

iPhone only has flash games. It sucks as a real gaming device when you have more than 10 minutes to kill.

3DS on the other hand will eventually get great big budget epic games and will eventually get cheaper

Cheapy and Wombat,
Thanks for mentioning it, but I had hoped for a little more discussion on the new, downloadable NBA Jam in that its screwed over everyone who bought it on the consoles.

First they announce it only for the Wii, then say the PS360 version is going to be a download tied to NBA Elite 11 but with fewer single-player features than the Wii version but in HD and online play. Then when NBA Elite 11 is canned, they release essentially the full Wii game in HD with online play and charge the same price as the Wii version, $50 MSRP.

The biggest problem with the console NBA Jam is the rosters were slightly outdated when the game launched, and now with the massive amount of trades done in the NBA this year, the rosters are horribly outdated now. EA never said what they were going to do until about a month ago, when they said they were abandoning all support of the console versions of NBA Jam because of low sales. This also affects the online multiplayer, which has horrible connection issues still.

Then EA pulled a double screw job by updating the roster on the iOS version, which apparently is selling better, and touting this new downloadable NBA Jam with one of the highlighted features in the press release saying updated rosters and online improvements. EA did a free update last year for Madden NFL Arcade on PSN/XBLA and I'm sure it sold less than NBA Jam on disc.

Luckily I only paid $10 for the disc (BB PM of KMart $30 sale in Dec. with $20 in BB RZ certs) but lots of people paid the full $50 MSRP on this and are getting screwed over. Just thought you might want to discuss how EA is wanting a double dip with NBA Jam. Thanks again.

Loved the old-school two-man team this week(no disrespect intended, Ship).

I wish those who hate on Zune would actually try a Zune HD. It's a great player with a fantastic interface. It lacks app variety, yes, but as a PMP, it's excellent.

I still have no idea why anyone praises the 3DS in anyway at all. It's overpriced, its a dumb gimmick and the games look just like the DS's ones. Plus, the hardware itself does NOT look good.

You know what looked good? The DS Lite because it had nice clean lines and wasn't cluttered at all. From that point, Nintendo just worked backwards to create the cluttered mess that is the 3DS. A million different lights, weird angles, ice cream sandwich design, ITS ALL DISJOINTED.

The NGP looks really nice, like they actually put thought into designing it. And although it has it's gimmicks, it still has really nice features.

The show was great, reminded me of the old days of the CAGcast...which means TIME TO GET RID OF SHIPWRECK :p

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned that the select and start buttons on the 3DS are mislabeled. Start is actually select, and vice-versa.

Cheapy,

If you're really not going to have another kid, having a vasectomy is definitely the way to go--you'll be surprised how much it improves your sex life. Not to mention it takes like 30 minutes and does not hurt in the least. I was nervous going in, but it was less of a disruption to my day than a teeth cleaning at the dentist... except that I don't have to show the dentist my balls.

I love my dslite. That being said I havn't touched mine in years and just give it to my kids to keep them busy with harvestmoon/animal crossing. TWEWY was awesome tho.

Here's why I personally think the 3DS is a pile of garbage...

-it's region locked
-has no second analog stick
-3-5 Hour battery life
-a 1996 cell phone quality camera
-graphics that are on par with a handheld from 2005*
-small, low-resolution screens
-friend codes
-no voice chat
-no web browser until ???
-no virtual console until ???
-no nes/snes/n64/gb games on the virtual console at all.
-a 3d gimmick that hurts the battery life, performance of games, and let Nintendo jack up the price.
-costs $250 for a portable video game system.

*Honestly, maybe the 3DS is slightly better, but considering just how close these are for a $129 6 year old system and a 1 month old $250 system.... it's kind of sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vtwaGGUEGM

I just remembered you never did a clip show get on that

Haha, I watched the Chopped Champions too. The Final episode's chopping played out just how I thought it would even before it aired, which is good. My favorite episode was the Chopped Judges one. Finally they got a taste of their own medicine and saw how that clock is rough and 4 wtf ingredients can throw you off when not sitting in the judge seat and making fun of the contestants as they cook. Best quote in that episode was "Two minutes left and I'm running to the Pantry, oh my god I'm one of those people".

I had no intentions of ever getting a 3DS, but a friend had one so I tried it anyway. He had Pilot Wings. The 3D effect is a lie. First I had to find the sweet spot where the 3D actually worked, and it was 3 inches from my face, awkward. It takes my eyes 10 seconds to adjust, but any slight movement of the 3DS system from pressing buttons makes it go out of focus and hurts my eyes. On the plus side the analog was nice, but only one is a tease. The 3DS is just a gimmick to me, I can't justify spending that much when you can get a Wii for cheaper or 360/PS3 for nearly the same price.

Great show, classic CAGcast I love it. This is the show that made me buy a 360 in 2007. I love Ship but somehow he changed the chemistry and vibe of the show. The CAGcast was never about serious gaming discussions, its about funny stories that happened during the week and some gaming discussion tucked in between. The only way for it to be better is if it was longer than a hour. Hey maybe Ship and Wombat can revive CAGforeplay and be better than the CAGcast . Love the old school show keep it up.

Great CAGcast guys! Missed Ship, but it was still great.

I'm not sure about the older Zune players but the Zune hd 32 is actually pretty sweet. I own an Ipod, Ipad and a Zune hd 32. I have to say the sound quality on the Zune is way better, and the interface is way cooler for music. I will say that it sucks for apps but I don't care about that. It's also under $200 for the 32 gig version on some sites which makes it a pretty good deal for a serious music fan. Maybe you should have tried out one of the Zune hd's before saying that all Zunes are crap.

Did Wombat really say there aren't many Cleveland Browns fans? The Browns have one of the biggest, most loyal fanbases in all of the NFL. Just look at how well Peyton Hillis is doing in the Madden 12 Cover Vote to see that that they're not as tiny as you think they are.

A number of apps/games on the iPod Touch use tiny buttons that make them harder to use at times and for many games, there's no substitute for buttons or a good stylus for many genres. The DS stylus makes it a lot easier to do what needs to be done for touch-focused games. I'd rather spend $250 for a system whose games I can buy and play for the next five years without problems than one that allows me to play games competently for a year or so at most before requiring another $250. Also, I'm surprised that Cheapy didn't like the 3DS.

Is there going to be a "Cheapy's Racist Moment of the Week" segment every week now?

Better than average show since you guys were better able to keep most topics concise without rambling too much.

It was so quiet without Shipwreck's nonstop talking, no I completely kid. Great show but I hope to hear Shipwreck doing twice the work next week to make it up!

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Did we ever get a proper explanation on why CAG Foreplay is defunct? Something about Shipwreck's wife working during the time that Shipwreck has time off and vice versa?

I still really wish that the show went back to just Cheapy and Wombat, it's a lot simpler and theres a lot more talking about what happened during their weeks instead of everyone feeling like they have to rush through stuff. But of course feelings are hurt and yeah...

Originally Posted by FriskyTanuki Did Wombat really say there aren't many Cleveland Browns fans? The Browns have one of the biggest, most loyal fanbases in all of the NFL. Just look at how well Peyton Hillis is doing in the Madden 12 Cover Vote to see that that they're not as tiny as you think they are. A number of apps/games on the iPod Touch use tiny buttons that make them harder to use at times and for many games, there's no substitute for buttons or a good stylus for many genres. The DS stylus makes it a lot easier to do what needs to be done for touch-focused games. I'd rather spend $250 for a system whose games I can buy and play for the next five years without problems than one that allows me to play games competently for a year or so at most before requiring another $250. Also, I'm surprised that Cheapy didn't like the 3DS. Is there going to be a "Cheapy's Racist Moment of the Week" segment every week now? Better than average show since you guys were better able to keep most topics concise without rambling too much.

Even though the iPod touch gets an update every year, the current one is probably just as or even more powerful than the 3DS. It's also much better, probably not for gaming though because of the lack of buttons. It's not like Nintendo won't update this one in a couple of years either

The stylus for the DS is a good thing, because drawing with your finger sucks. You have no pin point accuracy with an index finger.

Originally Posted by Microshock Did we ever get a proper explanation on why CAG Foreplay is defunct? Something about Shipwreck's wife working during the time that Shipwreck has time off and vice versa? I still really wish that the show went back to just Cheapy and Wombat, it's a lot simpler and theres a lot more talking about what happened during their weeks instead of everyone feeling like they have to rush through stuff. But of course feelings are hurt and yeah...

They stopped because Mrs. Shipwreck's schedule was too busy to be able to do the show with any regularity.

Originally Posted by Microshock Even though the iPod touch gets an update every year, the current one is probably just as or even more powerful than the 3DS. It's also much better, probably not for gaming though because of the lack of buttons. It's not like Nintendo won't update this one in a couple of years either The stylus for the DS is a good thing, because drawing with your finger sucks. You have no pin point accuracy with an index finger.

Power doesn't really matter to me as much as good support, interesting games, and good value. Apple is terrible at supporting their non-phone iOS products because they continually release new models that and discontinue support of the previous models unless you pay another $250 or more. If they actually made a handheld gaming system, they'd get a lot more shit than they do.