For everybody wanting to take that bromance with Garrus to the next level...

Mass Effect 3 has same-sex romances

Fox News is gonna go ape-shit.

Myself, I don't really care! ME is all about choices, why not have more?

I wonder if this means that every squad member can be romanced?

Choice is definitely good, it does seem a little weird though that after being straight in ME1, Ash and Kaidan are going to... what, suddenly remember that they were really bi the whole time? Or is Shepard just so overwhelmingly sexy in ME3 that he can make straight people go gay for him. I guess we'll see.

I guess war does change people.

Haha my shepards gonna romance a krogan. Or a salarian

Originally Posted by giantqtipz Haha my shepards gonna romance a krogan. Or a salarian

Possibly considered a spoiler: The article does state that there will be no new romance options, only characters that Shepard was already able to romance in ME1 and 2.

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi Possibly considered a spoiler: The article does state that there will be no new romance options, only characters that Shepard was already able to romance in ME1 and 2.

Do you think that means that if you had a romance in ME2, you're carrying it forward into ME3, or that you have the same characters available you did in ME2 (Miranda/Jack/Tali & Jacob/Thane/Garrus) as options this time around? What about those that were loyal to their ME1 LI and didn't romance anyone in ME2? Also, what about those that had Liara as their LI in ME1, shifted to a new LI in ME2 and reconciled with her during LoTSB?

Originally Posted by shrike4242 Do you think that means that if you had a romance in ME2, you're carrying it forward into ME3, or that you have the same characters available you did in ME2 (Miranda/Jack/Tali & Jacob/Thane/Garrus) as options this time around? What about those that were loyal to their ME1 LI and didn't romance anyone in ME2? Also, what about those that had Liara as their LI in ME1, shifted to a new LI in ME2 and reconciled with her during LoTSB?

My feeling is that romance in ME3 will focus on developing your existing romance from ME1 or 2, and/or dealing with the rivalry situation for players who "cheated on" their ME1 LI in ME2 (if you want to call it cheating, though I bet Ash and Kaidan will). I kind of don't think you'll be able to begin a brand new romance at all, or the option will be very limited. That will suck for new players I guess, but I would think that the vast majority of people playing ME3 will be continuing from a previous game, and if they're interested in romance, they'll be importing one. It seems like a waste of resources to write whole new romance scenarios for the last game. (Although, I guess, without a brand new romance scenario, where does the gay romance come in? Hmm... I'm not sure what to think now.)

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi Possibly considered a spoiler: The article does state that there will be no new romance options, only characters that Shepard was already able to romance in ME1 and 2.

It's also been announced that there will be a gay romance option, so it would appear that that statement it up to interpretation.

I was taking all this to mean that any Shephard can romance anyone from the previous pool of romance options

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi My feeling is that romance in ME3 will focus exclusively on developing your existing romance from ME1 or 2, and/or dealing with the rivalry situation for players who "cheated on" their ME1 LI in ME2 (if you want to call it cheating, though I bet Ash and Kaidan will). I kind of don't think you'll be able to begin a brand new romance at all. That will suck for new players I guess, but I would think that the vast majority of people playing ME3 will be continuing from a previous game, and if they're interested in romance, they'll be importing one. It seems like a waste of resources to write whole new romance scenarios for the last game.

Since the character pool seems slimmed down from ME2, and they've admitted about making a tighter game from a quantity of characters perspective, I think you may be right in ME3 not having the ability to make a new romance.

With the ME2 romance options, there seem to be numerous options, working from the no romance at all angles, all the way to ME1 romance, "cheated" on ME1 romance with ME2 romance.

I'm sure there's some flow chart at Bioware with all the possible options.

Originally Posted by Salamando3000 I was taking all this to mean that any Shephard can romance anyone from the previous pool of romance options

Possible, though we're not sure if we have all six of those characters back in the game yet.

Originally Posted by shrike4242 Since the character pool seems slimmed down from ME2, and they've admitted about making a tighter game from a quantity of characters perspective, I think you may be right in ME3 not having the ability to make a new romance.

Except that when I first wrote that, I wasn't thinking about the gay angle... If they say gay romance is possible, and since it's not possible to be continuing a gay romance from a previous game (not counting femShep-Liara as a "gay romance" here since BioWare doesn't seem to), then there must be some capacity for creating a brand new romance from scratch (with a returning character).

Jack is the only character IIRC who specifically said that she is straight in ME2. Do any of the other characters in ME1 or 2 specifically shoot you down if you try to pursue a same-sex romance option with them, or do the dialogue options just not exist? I wonder how much they're going to have to retcon to allow for same-sex romance in ME3.

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi Except that when I first wrote that, I wasn't thinking about the gay angle... If they say gay romance is possible, and since it's not possible to be continuing a gay romance from a previous game (not counting femShep-Liara as a "gay romance" here since BioWare doesn't seem to), then there must be some capacity for creating a brand new romance from scratch.

In that case, then I think that must be the case.

I'm still wondering if we'll only have the options in that case for the ME2 previous options, though out of that pack of six, I can only really see Jack going to play for the same team. I would guess we should have new options from new characters we run into within ME3. Also, since we're having Ashley and Kaiden show back up again, I can't see them going the same team route as well.

I think we'll certainly get more info about this going forward, and I'm sure it'll be dissected to death in the Bioware forums.

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Originally Posted by shrike4242 I'm still wondering if we'll only have the options in that case for the ME2 previous options, though out of that pack of six, I can only really see Jack going to play for the same team.

Ironic, then, that Jack is the only character (IIRC) that specifically shoots down a same-sex romance with Shepard. I think she even uses those words, that she doesn't play for the girls' team.

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi Ironic, then, that Jack is the only character (IIRC) that specifically shoots down a same-sex romance with Shepard. I think she even uses those words, that she doesn't play for the girls' team.

She does mention that specifically, though she's also the only ME2 LI that has mentioned that she has played for the same team in the past.

Originally Posted by shrike4242 She does mention that specifically, though she's also the only ME2 LI that has mentioned that she has played for the same team in the past.

Doesn't she just talk about being in a threesome with a dude and his girlfriend? Not exactly the same thing as being a lesbian.

Originally Posted by Ryuukishi Doesn't she just talk about being in a threesome with a dude and his girlfriend? Not exactly the same thing as being a lesbian.

I think she mentioned that they shared Jack, which would make me think it's a bit more than just that. I'd have to go find the dialogue in question, though as that was with my Sheploo and done quite a while ago, I don't remember the specifics off-hand.

Regardless, I think things will be getting a bit more complicated in the romance area with ME3.

seriously... the last 5+ posts are hidden behind the spoiler tag..

Two words: Krogan humping.

"Wrex." "Shepard." ... I always knew that dude was flirting with me.

Originally Posted by giantqtipz seriously... the last 5+ posts are hidden behind the spoiler tag..

lol that's exactly what I was thinking.

Let's go ahead and reserve the spoiler tags for actual spoilers; i.e. information pertaining to events in the 3rd game's story. If someone is going to consider a feature as broad as the inclusion of same sex relationships or that there will be no new characters with which to have relationships then they probably shouldn't be participating in a forum discussion about the game.