Originally Posted by smoger I had to laugh when Cheapy got offended by Wombat saying there aren't any iOS games he was (seriously) interested in, not 30 minutes after Cheapy browbeat him for considering an Android phone. "The people who hate the iphone are the people who don't have one"

That's not quite accurate. Cheapy was making fun of Wombat for his faux interest in the Xperia phone (which I know is technically an andriod). So keep your pants on, he wasn't dissing the whole OS.

Everybody knows Transformers 2 was horrible.

Transformers 3 is supposed to be surprisingly good though.

My question is what is the worst movie series to ever go trilogy (not including Ep 1-3 of Star Wars)?

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I'm just glad someone finally mentioned what a huge apple fanboy Cheapy is. I've never bought an iPhone because I bought my wife an iPod and it was terrible. iTunes is some of the worst software I've ever used. I idea that people would actually want to play iOS games on a tv when they could be playing console games is just a joke.

And it's not a shocker to anyone that Cheapy didn't like the kinect, either. "If you have to stand up, you're not getting the full viewing or audio experience"? Seriously? Maybe if your tv and speakewrs are on the floor (but maybe it's different for someone who's 6'4"). I've never had any problems with the mic unless I've had the volume turned up really high on my sound system and it sounds like the other guys haven't either. I was really excited about the new dashboard announcements for kinect voice integration and I think they were actually MS's focal point during their E3 press conference. I've always wanted to comment on a CAGcast since I've been listening for years, it sucks that my first one has to be negative.

On a positive note (for the CAGcast, at least), the Joystiq show is truly terrible for me. I only started listening after you guys had Justin on as a guest and quickly found that Chris Grant is a really arrogant tool. He was by far my least favorite thing about it. So I wouldn't be surprised if you do see an influx of subscribers after a couple of episodes.

Hey, Ship! I thought you'd like to know that one of the actual pitched lines for the guy near the whiteboard to say in Duke Nukem was something along the lines of "Duke, that's the best dick I've ever seen!" But they didn't use it for some reason. :(

I am Blacktimus Prime! Great Show!

Its sounding like someone should send Wombat this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Go-F-Sleep-Ada...=1EIJQQEWF290I

The audiobook is even better because it's read by Samuel L Jackson. And its exactly as awesome as it sounds

Wombat, as someone who said they have to renew their Verizon contract at the end of the summer, you might want to consider switching carriers. After July 7th Verizon is switching from a $30 unlimited data plan to a tiered system that jacks up the price like crazy. Just my opinion: AT&T is the same as Verizon for price. T-Mobile is cheaper but they throttle data if you pass a certain limit. That leaves Sprint as the best deal of the major carriers since they're cheaper and have true unlmited data. Boost and Virgin Mobile are better deals and (psst, don't tell anyone) use Sprint's network but they don't have the best phones.

Also, discounts on phones aren't a big deal. The physical phone stores overcharge. Amazon's Wireless store practically gives the phones away just for signing up or renewing contracts.

Originally Posted by atreyue On a positive note (for the CAGcast, at least), the Joystiq show is truly terrible for me. I only started listening after you guys had Justin on as a guest and quickly found that Chris Grant is a really arrogant tool. He was by far my least favorite thing about it. So I wouldn't be surprised if you do see an influx of subscribers after a couple of episodes.

Overall, good first post. The CAGcast is, of course, a good podcast for video games. You should also give the Giant Bomb Bombcast a shot.

So, Wombat - How do you find the time for a job, two kids, a wife, a house, the CagCast AND to be the voice of the new Bugs Bunny?

I actually love the Transformers movies. See, people like CheapyD and Shipwreck are blinded by the nostalgia of the original cartoons. They cannot watch the original ones and actually find flaws, because the warm fuzzy memories of their childhood overpower it. The cartoons are actually immensely dumb, with amazing scenes like a Transformer fishing with a human.

Me on the other hand, I have fun watching huge robots fight. And I know the jokes aren't exactly high class and thankfully for the third movie, they removed those two wangsta robots. BUT YOU GET TO SEE ROBOTS BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF EACH OTHER. Shia Labeouf is a capable actor so it's not like the parts with the humans are bad either. I really enjoyed the whole college scene with Shia and him freaking out in class drawing Cybertron symbols.

Transformers 1 was better just because the atmosphere was a bit more serious than the second one. The second one just goofed around a bit too much and it seems like the third one will go back to the more serious tone.

These are fun summer movies. Of course you're not going to enjoy them if you have a stick up your ass every time and compare it to your nostalgia cartoons.

And man oh man, Cheapy's apple fanboyness is showing AGAIN. How dare anyone choose a phone other than the iphone? If they chose an Xperia Play they're a Sony Fanboy, if they choose a Windows Phone 7 then they're microsoft fanboys. And if they choose an android phone, then the iphone must be better.

You guys know a former mod that is an prime example of the type of person that loves the Transformer movies.

I've only ever seen one RedBox machine around here and I'd never bother wasting the time and gas it takes to go out there to rent a game for a day. The only use that I can see for it is if I have to have a certain right this second and have a completely empty day to dedicate to it.

Virtua Tennis 4 is easy, especially early on. If you're losing really early, then you suck. I really enjoyed it a lot since the career mode is short enough that I can get through it in a few sessions.

I have to wonder why Volition decided to turn a great open world game into a linear corridor third-person shooter. I'd get Saint's Row 3 day one if it had GeoMod tech in it.

I've had an iPod Touch for nearly 18 months now and I'd never get an iPhone because of my experience with it. I'm hoping that Sony allows general use apps (ESPN, email, Twitter, etc.) on Vita so that I have a reason to get rid of my Touch for good.

The New New Xbox Experience is for everybody. It looks like a mix of the Windows 8 interface and the XMB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON4stPcGPxs

iPad's been able to play games over HDMI since it launched, as Tested does their Apps of the Week videos using that feature. Apple is far behind Sony, MS, and Nintendo in terms of having consumer-friendly gaming devices and software, as they only make different styles of phones that happen to be decent at playing small games if you know how to work within their system. That "only those who don't have an iPhone hate it" line is ridiculous.

Decent show.

Wombat,

If Apple decided the needed to start creating games for their new console they would just buy whoever they needed. They had over $60 billion in cash last quarter and shareholders want to see them put it to use. Paying $17 billion for Activision Blizzard would be an easy way to launch their new console. Imagine a new WoW that could be played on the console, IPad an IPhone. Now imagine the subscription revenue that would bring in.

IPhone is now 52% of Apple's revenues. They need to start to diversify for the same reasons they went into the MP3 player and phone market many years ago. The success the Microsoft has had in gaming they're going to attractive. In the not so distant future this will be the system that we'll all be playing.

Originally Posted by Microshock And man oh man, Cheapy's apple fanboyness is showing AGAIN. How dare anyone choose a phone other than the iphone? If they chose an Xperia Play they're a Sony Fanboy, if they choose a Windows Phone 7 then they're microsoft fanboys. And if they choose an android phone, then the iphone must be better.

Bravo, sir. Bravo. One model does not fit all people. Or to put it in terms Cheapy can understand: "Now, the world don't move to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you, may not be right for some." - Different Strokes, 1978

I've used an iPhone. Just had a Droid X. Now I'm on a Windows Phone (HTC Arrive) and pretty happy with it.

RE: Redbox gaming rentals.

I live in Portland, Oregon and we've had Redbox gaming rentals for about six months, so maybe it had a test run all along the West coast? I recently had an issue where I rented LEGO Pirates of the Caribbean for the PS3 and it gave me the 360 version instead even though I pushed the "PS3" option for the game format.

I called Redbox customer service to complain and was given a credit. Customer service also told me "people getting the wrong games for the wrong systems through Redbox is an ongoing problem." So the people that load up the Redbox kiosks are not paying too much attention to what they are doing. At the particular kiosk I use sometimes (I live across the street from a grocery store that has one) even the box art inserts for movies and games (on the kiosk, not the screen) are inserted backwards.

Hope this news is interesting.

Good show guys. Interesting to hear Cheapy's kinect impressions although it seems like his mind was made up already. I tried Child of Eden with the kinect controls last night and I was impressed, but I haven't compared with the controller yet though.

Good luck Ship!

Great show guys. I love the Thug Life segments. I was tempted to get a kinect for child of Eden until your review Cheapy. I was still slightly interested to use the voice features and using my hand for the menu and Netflix but it just does not seem worth it at this point. And the video above makes the kinect menu look hard to control and annoying.

I'm not going to dispute your opinion on the Transformers movies. I will dispute your claim from a previous show that they are worse than the G.I. Joe movie from 2009. I don't think I've seen more wooden acting and unnecessary flashbacks in any other film.

Originally Posted by The Great BM I'm not going to dispute your opinion on the Transformers movies. I will dispute your claim from a previous show that they are worse than the G.I. Joe movie from 2009. I don't think I've seen more wooden acting and unnecessary flashbacks in any other film.

Other than the part of the movie where they use the cool robo suits, the movie was pure cheese. I was hoping for a Transformers style movie where it was fun but...no.

It's just nostalgia blocking their view on these things. Shipwreck is obviously a bigger GI Joe fan than a Transformers fan so he won't say the movie was worse than the Transformers one.

Neither G.I. Joe nor Transformers are fine pieces of cinema, but G.I. Joe more represented what a live-action G.I. Joe movie would be. It would be cheesy and campy and involve shooting lasers around well-known monuments. Also it would have ninjas. The Transformers movie was focused on humans (I also can't stand Shia Lebeouf) and the redeeming bits of robots actually fighting were often so difficult to tell what was going on that it was just a blur... other than the close-ups on GM logos. It also contained comedy bits that I think were written for Jar Jar Binks before being cut out of Star Wars Episode II & III.