Originally Posted by spmahn This was a good game, but it was a one and done for me. The story was compelling, but the block puzzles got almost impossibly difficult by the end, even on easy. Buy it, play Through it once, and watch the other endings on Youtube.

it seems like im the only person who found these puzzles easy... even on hard lol

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I literally bought PS3 deluxe version for $67 on Thursday.

Well, it's just $8 and I'm really enjoying the game, so it's worth it.

Originally Posted by Kaiser499 Yeah, kinda funny how this was supposed to be for pre-ordering only.

Yep! Atlus was already on thin ice with me but now I wont ever preorder/day 1 buy one of their games again just because its "limited". Atlus built a name for themselves by under printing their games and thus ensuring they sky rocket in value. I have always been ok with the fact that they have started printing enough that that is not always the case. However it pisses me off how often they hint or outright make a game sound like its getting a small print run and WILL be rare just to flood the market. I just cant trust them anymore.

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Do you guys actually believe that any printing company/pressing plant is going to take exact number production orders?

"Hey, we received 12,358 pre-orders. Only print that many."

That's not how it works. You overprint something in case of error and to obviously meet the initial demand. Not to mention that these have to be made in time for release, so you get the initial pre-order numbers and run estimations on how many people will have pre-ordered by the time the game actually launches. The fact that there's so many of these still left can be easily explained by a variety of reasons.

You want to hate Atlus for making too many special editions of a highly anticipated title for them? Go right ahead and keep believing you're the center of the universe.

Originally Posted by MSI Magus Yep! Atlus was already on thin ice with me but now I wont ever preorder/day 1 buy one of their games again just because its "limited". Atlus built a name for themselves by under printing their games and thus ensuring they sky rocket in value. I have always been ok with the fact that they have started printing enough that that is not always the case. However it pisses me off how often they hint or outright make a game sound like its getting a small print run and WILL be rare just to flood the market. I just cant trust them anymore.

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Bad Atlus you're not suppose to be making money.

I understand your point, but seriously, if they know they are going to make a profit, they'd benefit from over printing the LE by X amount and making some money vs having to reprint (which probably isn't cheap) to satisfy demand. Instead of having people complain about the perceived value of their item not maintaining like their older releases that were LE's and are hard to find now. (SMT3 with soundtrack & DDS1/2 w/slipcover)

Remember when games were bought to PLAY? Ahhhh memories.

Now everybody(including me) keeps 'zomg stuff that should go rarez' sealed and then bitches when it doesn't.

I can't say I blame Atlus for overprinting these, since again the game is a breath of fresh air in a field of sequels and rehashes and relaunches and just crap in general.

Yes but some companies don't say they're going to do a limited to xyz release and then pump out xyz^3.

See Forza 4 CE.

Its not about making money. Its about lying to the consumer. Its about making something sound limited when its not. If they had just released Catherine id not have a word to say, hell if you read my post I make it very clear that I do not mind them releasing games and them not being rare anymore. I didnt even mind when they reprinted their older games driving the value of mine way down.

What I mind is them coming out and saying "we wont make more of these then there are pre orders, the demmand will equal the supply" and then breaking that. They have done this with several games now. So basically they built a reputation for releasing rare games and now love to come out and make it sound like their new release will be valuable like the older ones...yet never actually do that.

Originally Posted by specialist Do you guys actually believe that any printing company/pressing plant is going to take exact number production orders? "Hey, we received 12,358 pre-orders. Only print that many." That's not how it works. You overprint something in case of error and to obviously meet the initial demand. Not to mention that these have to be made in time for release, so you get the initial pre-order numbers and run estimations on how many people will have pre-ordered by the time the game actually launches. The fact that there's so many of these still left can be easily explained by a variety of reasons. You want to hate Atlus for making too many special editions of a highly anticipated title for them? Go right ahead and keep believing you're the center of the universe.

Yes but you overprint a reasonable amount. If they have 12,000 preorders then yes maybe you print 14,000 or something. It shouldnt be months later and something you hyped as limited is on sale.

LOL at people getting mad about supplies. Especially about people believing any company that says that anything is limited. I bought it cause its a good game, and I liked the extras. If the only reason you are getting it is rare, prepare to be screwed, its your own fault for putting faith in random company people and forum people telling you its "rare".

Originally Posted by EdgeCrusher36 LOL at people getting mad about supplies. Especially about people believing any company that says that anything is limited. I bought it cause its a good game, and I liked the extras. If the only reason you are getting it is rare, prepare to be screwed, its your own fault for putting faith in random company people and forum people telling you its "rare".

Cause A = B 100% of the time. I remember hearing that the nano suit version or whatever version of Crysis 2 would be rare and guess what... it is. Sometimes it happens and other times it doesn't.

Originally Posted by admiralvic Cause A = B 100% of the time. I remember hearing that the nano suit version or whatever version of Crysis 2 would be rare and guess what... it is. Sometimes it happens and other times it doesn't.

And show me were someone is complaining they made too many Nano versions? Oh yeah, you can't. My reply is about him whining about something being overproduced. Thanks for the reply though.

I pre-ordered, but then cancelled after playing the demo. Decided to wait for a price drop. Game looks unique, but I don't need to have it at release for $60. $20 would work though.

I likely would have kept the pre-order though if amazon would have offered a $20 credit. I was holding out for it, but when it never showed I moved on.

Originally Posted by EdgeCrusher36 LOL at people getting mad about supplies. Especially about people believing any company that says that anything is limited. I bought it cause its a good game, and I liked the extras. If the only reason you are getting it is rare, prepare to be screwed, its your own fault for putting faith in random company people and forum people telling you its "rare".

I always love when others whine about others whining. Nothing like crying about someone else complaining about something online.

I'll be honest. I want this purely so the King has a Queen to sleep with

I have the BK King Pillow Case

Originally Posted by basilofbkrst i'll be honest. I want this purely so the king has a queen to sleep with i have the bk king pillow case

epic winning